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  • #61
    Scientific ignorance rears its head again. If you are infected with a flu virus, you can be either symptomatic or asymptomatic. In either case you can pass the virus along. But you can not pass it along if you are not infected. You have a lower chance of getting infected if you get a vaccine. Getting a vaccine is therefore not just for you but for everyone you come into contact with.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
      Nice try, but an article doesn't change the fact that you've never used one. I've been using one for about 4 years now. It's gotten rid of toothaches, UTI's, knocked back cold symptoms and lengths.

      My uncle used it and cleared up a chronic congestion problem, as did my aunt. My parents used them to get rid of similar ailments.

      The one's we use are from Don Croft - not HC. They don't cure everything(magic pill) like she seems to say, but they do kill bacteria the best(no antibiotics!) and viruses seem to be effected by it. People with H.I.V. can use it to kill the virus that's outside of the cell, but not what's inside - so things like H.I.V. and Herpes cannot be wiped out, but the virus load can be kept way down.

      Don't believe every article you read. This will never be approved by the FDA. It would wipe out most of the medicine isle in the stores. Can't have that, can we?

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      • #63
        I would suggest that anyone debating getting a flu vaccine promptly purge all the information they have read in this thread and go start from scratch somewhere else.

        The total amount of mis-information, half-truth, and just flat out garbage in this thread in shocking. Oy vey
        Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

        http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
          Scientific ignorance rears its head again. If you are infected with a flu virus, you can be either symptomatic or asymptomatic. In either case you can pass the virus along. But you can not pass it along if you are not infected. You have a lower chance of getting infected if you get a vaccine. Getting a vaccine is therefore not just for you but for everyone you come into contact with.
          You are welcome to pump your body full of chemicals to protect the greater good, I choose not to do so.

          About halfway down the page there is a link to a PDF that lists the ingredients in all of the vaccines the CDC recommends. There are people on this forum who won't even use deodorant because of the aluminum, shampoo because the chemicals absorb into skin, buy organics because of pesticides and yet people line up for their flu shots, never bothering to look at what is IN them and weigh the risks of poisoning one's body against the risks of influenza/chicken pox/measles.

          http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

          Do not call me ill-informed. I have done my research.
          Last edited by Rosegin; 12-22-2011, 12:35 AM.
          ~Sandy

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          • #65
            it feels like there should be people with signs, picketing and yelling "Leper, outcast, unclean!"
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
              It's not perfect but it's better than nothing.

              If my allegedly "bullet-proof" Primal immune system should happen to let a flu bug slip in, I would be fine. I'm young and strong. I might have a seizure or two from the fever, but I would survive. If however, I passed it along to my 86 year old Dad and he got pneumonia and died, I would never forgive myself.

              Any one of you could get that same bug and sneeze in the aisle of whole foods while shopping for soup ingredients and my Dad could walk by and the same thing would happen. You are all just so damn smug in your, "I don't need a vax, I'm tough" attitudes, you would never realize that you had KILLED a person.

              Social responsibility folks. If you live out in a cabin somewhere so you will never infect anyone else, fine, skip the vax and take your chances for you. Taking chances with someone else's life is just wrong.
              Did your dad not get the shot?
              Don't people get these vaccinations because they think they are protected?

              I don't immunise myself or our children.

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              • #67
                you and your children are killing everyone D:

                my dog sneezed earlier, did i kill him?
                beautiful
                yeah you are

                Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                lol

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                • #68
                  oh tell me bout it right. My unvaccinated children are making all the vaccinated ones sick :/
                  Some people do believe they are fully protected when vaxed. And those who don't I don't see the point of injecting full of chemicals just for the possibility of not getting it. Also while we are on this topic, what makes me laugh is those who believe they will get something less severe because of the vaccine :/ Every person has a different immune system, but the vaxxes are identical, so why it might kill one person, or do nothing to the next. Also why someone might get a disease or not get it, or get "mild" symptoms. Bah! Id just rather keep us all healthy, and yeah if something comes up, will deal with it.
                  We don't do it because of the yes small but potential side affects of the illness, you can't undo it once its done, and im not willing to take that risk.
                  I will deal with any illness that may or may not come up, at the time it comes uo.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Zophie View Post
                    . . . . . I just load up on D3 and I never get sick.... I can't even remember the last time I had a cold.
                    AMEN to this. Wife & I have not been sick since taking 10,000 IU Daily of Vitamin D3 Gelcaps ( olive oil based ). Our 25(OH)d blood tests came back as a near perfect 70 ng/ml. At home blood test for only $65 and a nearby Lab Corp test only $50. details below. Vitamin D3 powers up our immune system to fight off invaders. Dr. Kruse recommends a D3 blood level between 80 and 100 ng/ml.
                    Epidemic of Vitamin D deficiency sweeping the world
                    Vitamin D optimization thoughts - Jack Kruse

                    We say NO WAY to vaccinations !

                    Edit: I should also add that before taking vitamin D3 I caught a SEVERE chest cold every year. So severe that it typically lasted 1 or 2 months, and even messing up my voice. Now since taking Vitamin D3, the severity is down to just a few sniffles for 3 or 4 days. I only wish I had known about Vitamin D3 decades ago ! DAMN THE FDA for lying about how much Vitamin D3 we need. DAMN THEIR CORRUPTION !

                    Grizz
                    Last edited by Grizz; 12-22-2011, 05:03 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      I know I will get shouted down but one vote here for social as well as personal and family responsibility. Get vaccinated.
                      -1 for blindly following conventional wisdom without having a critical mind, and questioning the advice given by big pharma.

                      +1 for no flu vaccinations.

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                      • #71
                        Vaccinations have made me ill in the past because the adjuvants such as mercury overstimulated my strong immune system.

                        The only time I took a flu shot was when I worked in close proximity to vunerable people. Shortly after, I and many co-workers contracted an unidentifiable virus that infected our hands and feet causing aching and weakness. Some were unable to walk for a few days. It was probably some monkey virus - these are commonly used in the manufacture of vaccinations.

                        Therefore I won't be taking any more vaccinations unless I feel my life or health is under serious threat if I don't.
                        F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                        • #72
                          I'm getting a different vaccine tomorrow
                          Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
                          Starting Weight: 294 pounds
                          Current Weight: 235 pounds
                          Goal Weight: 195 pounds

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by kenn View Post
                            I'm getting a different vaccine tomorrow
                            Maybe you'll get lucky and it'll have good side effects, like marshmallow scented farts or epic mind control. Maybe even be able to melt someone's skeleton just by glaring at them.
                            *fingers crossed* haha!

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Lily Marie View Post
                              Maybe you'll get lucky and it'll have good side effects, like marshmallow scented farts or epic mind control. Maybe even be able to melt someone's skeleton just by glaring at them.
                              *fingers crossed* haha!
                              it's for meningitis, required for my surgery
                              Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
                              Starting Weight: 294 pounds
                              Current Weight: 235 pounds
                              Goal Weight: 195 pounds

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                              • #75
                                Aw, that's no fun.
                                Well wishes for a speedy recovery.

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