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  • Originally posted by Sihana
    How is paleo not a good weight loss method exactly? o.O
    I personally think it IS a good method, but I also think sometimes it might not feel like it because Paleo/Primal makes your body prioritize healing over fat loss. That's actually a good thing, but we've been taught our whole lives that weight loss is the best marker for health, so it may not feel right when it doesn't happen as fast as we're used to from past experiences.
    Durp.

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    • WHEW!!! Finally finished reading all of the past posts!!! I'm all caught up now...wow what a "tribe" of great ladies. Tons of wonderful advice, can't wait to try out a few things I read about.

      Well, I bit the bullet and weighed myself this morning so I would have a jumping off point...it was not a pleasant sight...not totally unexpected...but still not pleasant.

      So here it is

      Age: 36 Height: 5'4" Weight: 195

      There I did it...

      Would like to get down to at least 145

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      • Originally posted by Pinup
        Because, as you'll read here, not all of us have the instant fat-melting magic that so many others have.
        I don't think that any diet is really supposed to have "instant fat-melting magic".
        Yeah, there are a select few that get that super side effect... the lucky ones with healthy bodies and metabolisms.
        But MOST people don't lose weight easily, regardless of diet method.
        If you aren't losing fast enough on Primal add in some CW, like also tracking your calories and cutting them back a bit. This is often lost sight of here... but it's fine to do it! Calories count... I wish they didn't because then I wouldn't need to lose pounds to begin with!

        I stick to Primal and lose weight VERY slowly. Seriously. Slowly.
        I lost 1 lb last week and 1 lb this week... and was SHOCKED. That's how slow.
        But the thing about it is that I'm NOT on a "DIET". I'm simply eating healthy foods that I enjoy, in a way that is sustainable in the long term. This lifestyle has built an entirely different relationship to food for me, and many others. This is statistically one of the most important factors in maintaining weight loss over time. Building a healthy food relationship is the best thing a heavy person can ever do for themselves.

        Many diets that cause rapid weight loss have their own issues.
        Most of the time there is strict calorie and fat restriction which results in a body that is LESS healthy than when you started. And actually causes rapid gain once the severe restriction ends. I know women who have done them 'successfully'. Some of them had hair falling out... caught every cold/bug that was around... looked like death warmed over.
        Most of them regained.
        They didn't change their relationship with food... they just "ate to lose"... not to LIVE.

        I guess it's ultimately a personal decision.
        But I think that regardless of the method chosen that there is hard work and patience involved in most weight loss.
        Had I rather lose slowly and healthfully or try the crash and burn method (again)?
        No.
        I'm here... losing S-L-O-W-ly. And here is where I will stay.
        It's Ok, I didn't get fat overnight... and as nice as "magic" would be, it just doesn't exist.
        And while my journey may now be fast, I'm also gaining health.

        GL. Whatever you choose.
        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • Originally posted by Anthony337
          Just a thought.......... sorry you don't think its necessary or relevant.
          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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          • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
            ...I'm simply eating healthy foods that I enjoy, in a way that is sustainable in the long term. This lifestyle has built an entirely different relationship to food for me, and many others. This is statistically one of the most important factors in maintaining weight loss over time. Building a healthy food relationship is the best thing a heavy person can ever do for themselves.

            Many diets that cause rapid weight loss have their own issues.
            Most of the time there is strict calorie and fat restriction which results in a body that is LESS healthy than when you started.
            Smart words Cori. Five years ago I lost over 60 pounds and was a size 6-8 for the first time in decades. It was great!!! Except I did it in a way that was really hard on my body. Semi-starvation, managing portions only and not nutrients, and extremely heavy exercise. And of course I gradually gained it all back over the next two years, and had a whole new crop of physical troubles to boot, from joint pain that prevented me exercising to the near-collapse of my adrenal function and resulting exhaustion and cardiac symptoms.

            I am concentrating on healing my endocrine function with the most sensible way of eating I have found; since weight gain for me is a symptom of that malfunction I am not concentrating on treating the symptom only. Losing weight is of course an encouraging benefit, but I've proved that I can be thin and very unhealthy and have no wish to go there again.

            PS Check out this thread from Mark's blog: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/meal-...#axzz1yi88QeXp which has a ton of useful related info.
            Last edited by Wrenwood; 06-24-2012, 05:01 AM. Reason: Added link to Mark's blog
            My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

            "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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            • Just wanted to share this... for the first time since I can remember I am having my period with NO cramps! Apparently my body did some incredible healing with this new nutrition level because I'm on day 3 and zero crampls. I used to throw-up once a month and need 500mg naprosyn 1-2x/day in order to function. But I worked out today.

              I'm taking my exhaustion from this past month as my body healing something that was wrong seriously wrong. Because the last few days I've had energy and now this! So anyone that's suffering from severe cramps, there is hope if you feed your body well and let it heal.

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              • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                I don't think that any diet is really supposed to have "instant fat-melting magic".
                Yeah, there are a select few that get that super side effect... the lucky ones with healthy bodies and metabolisms.
                But MOST people don't lose weight easily, regardless of diet method.
                If you aren't losing fast enough on Primal add in some CW, like also tracking your calories and cutting them back a bit. This is often lost sight of here... but it's fine to do it! Calories count... I wish they didn't because then I wouldn't need to lose pounds to begin with!

                I stick to Primal and lose weight VERY slowly. Seriously. Slowly.
                I lost 1 lb last week and 1 lb this week... and was SHOCKED. That's how slow.
                But the thing about it is that I'm NOT on a "DIET". I'm simply eating healthy foods that I enjoy, in a way that is sustainable in the long term. This lifestyle has built an entirely different relationship to food for me, and many others. This is statistically one of the most important factors in maintaining weight loss over time. Building a healthy food relationship is the best thing a heavy person can ever do for themselves.

                Many diets that cause rapid weight loss have their own issues.
                Most of the time there is strict calorie and fat restriction which results in a body that is LESS healthy than when you started. And actually causes rapid gain once the severe restriction ends. I know women who have done them 'successfully'. Some of them had hair falling out... caught every cold/bug that was around... looked like death warmed over.
                Most of them regained.
                They didn't change their relationship with food... they just "ate to lose"... not to LIVE.

                I guess it's ultimately a personal decision.
                But I think that regardless of the method chosen that there is hard work and patience involved in most weight loss.
                Had I rather lose slowly and healthfully or try the crash and burn method (again)?
                No.
                I'm here... losing S-L-O-W-ly. And here is where I will stay.
                It's Ok, I didn't get fat overnight... and as nice as "magic" would be, it just doesn't exist.
                And while my journey may now be fast, I'm also gaining health.

                GL. Whatever you choose.
                This. Absolutely. (Cori, Anthony is a spambot. That particular post is a favourite, probably because it's short. It's been recycled so many times it's absurd.)

                We also forget that women's bodies hold on to fat more tenaciously than men's. It's not only our store of energy, but of estrogen. And what is the point of losing it quickly if it's all going to boomerang back on and deplete our health in the meanwhile? I have lost my weight very slowly (slower than one pound a week), without triggering the famine effect, which kicks our bodies into energy-hoarding and weight gain mode. I have no fear of ghrelin demons, or of it all coming back on when I stop. I have nothing to stop. I just learned to eat better. And I eat too few calories often enough to keep whittling away at my fat stores and not often enough to scare my body. When I had much more weight to lose, I tried a little harder, and my body was eager for any chance to offload the excess and cooperated better. Now we're both more laid-back about it.

                And losing weight slowly does not prevent people from noticing, far from it. I field so many compliments it's almost embarrassing. In some cases, people who haven't seen me in a while don't even recognize me (which I find absolutely hilarious).

                Slow and steady definitely wins this race.
                5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                - Lewis Mumford

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                • Originally posted by Pinup
                  Because, as you'll read here, not all of us have the instant fat-melting magic that so many others have.
                  Yeaaaaah...the instant fat-melting magic for pretty much any diet stopped with me at around 150 lbs. At that point my only recourse would have been starvation. Which I've done. And I don't do well on it.

                  Here's why I still eat paleo even though it isn't getting me to my goal weight: my bloodwork is spifferific, I feel way, way better (hence, the spifferific bloodwork), and I think if I actually focused on portions and slicing back my calories, I'd probably lose weight. Maybe. Thyroids, they live to disappoint me.

                  Of course, then I got knocked up and now I'm just eating to make a healthy baby. I have fairly good confidence that once nubbin's born, I'll be able to go back to eating paleo (which, to be clear, I already am -- I just tend to eat more calories now because RARRRR STEPH NEED FOOD NAO), and at least get myself to 150 again. I may at that point try and find a functional medicine doc who'll work with me on thyroid treatment, but that's $$$ I don't have. :\

                  Anyway, I think paleo can be a weight loss diet, if you treat it right. And in the meantime, it's a great way to live healthier.
                  Steph
                  My Primal Meanderings

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                  • Thanks Judg. I don't plan on snacking, guess I didn't word that properly. I'll likely be doing a lot of the driving through LA traffic, so both hands on the wheel! I am concerned with being hungry during what will be lunch hours and trying to come up with portable easy food sources that travel well and don't require staying cold. I'll take a lot of water, but I don't do nuts or fruit, which would be the easiest. The sessions will be like 90 minute workout for me between the driving. Guess I'll see once I get started.

                    Congrats PB on the success story. I think I told you on your page, but I'll say it here too. Can't wait to read it!

                    Welcome to all the newbies and lurkers. I lurk more than post too. Sometimes for the same reasons, things progress and change before I get around to it. Great to have new ideas, support, and input!

                    Cori, right on! You have a great insite and attitude in the face of adversity. Way to stay the course!
                    Last edited by KimT; 06-24-2012, 11:22 AM.

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                    • I keep a bag of mixed nuts with just a sprinkle of raisins, cranberries, and (*blush*) chocolate chips in my purse for emergencies. I'm afraid I haven't had to deal with portable meals much, so I don't have any brilliant ideas for you. Might be worth buying a small cooler to expand your options.

                      Have you tried starting a thread in the Nutrition Forum? Need Portable Meals, or something like that...
                      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                      - Lewis Mumford

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                      • Good thinking Judg. MMMM... I love the combo of nuts with raisin and cranberries and I don't even blush to admit chocolate chips! I'm sure I'll figure something out. Just a little OCD right now about planning. This is a huge opportunity for me professionally and I am excited and worried at the same time. I do have a small cooler, so it wouldn't be a problem, I just hate to pack it daily for a just-in-case-I-get-ravenous moment and then unpack it when I get home. Maybe I'll break the nuts rule as that would be simple to toss in and will stay for days if I don't need them.

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                        • Originally posted by KimT View Post
                          Good thinking Judg. MMMM... I love the combo of nuts with raisin and cranberries and I don't even blush to admit chocolate chips! I'm sure I'll figure something out. Just a little OCD right now about planning. This is a huge opportunity for me professionally and I am excited and worried at the same time. I do have a small cooler, so it wouldn't be a problem, I just hate to pack it daily for a just-in-case-I-get-ravenous moment and then unpack it when I get home. Maybe I'll break the nuts rule as that would be simple to toss in and will stay for days if I don't need them.
                          How about some portable meat like homemade jerky or pemmican? Also hard boiled eggs and some baggies of pre-cooked shrimp and maybe some canned seafood. You can almost always find a decent salad wherever you go. Then just supplement the protein on top a bit and you have a primal meal.

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                          • Originally posted by onalark View Post
                            Of course, then I got knocked up and now I'm just eating to make a healthy baby. I have fairly good confidence that once nubbin's born, I'll be able to go back to eating paleo (which, to be clear, I already am -- I just tend to eat more calories now because RARRRR STEPH NEED FOOD NAO), and at least get myself to 150 again.

                            Anyway, I think paleo can be a weight loss diet, if you treat it right. And in the meantime, it's a great way to live healthier.
                            I think Nubbin is going to become this kid's official nickname long after he/she gets a real name.

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                            • I have packed a lunch in the past and REALLY need to get back to it. I work out of a truck, not an office, so I have to bring a cooler. No fridge or anything.

                              What I end up packing is hardboiled eggs, cheese slices (if you do dairy), bite size cuts of last night's meat, olives, pork rinds, an apple, maybe a Larabar if I'm not trying to lose weight and sometimes unsweetened shredded coconut. I'll have a pack of beef jerky every once in a while too.
                              Durp.

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                              • Originally posted by teach2183 View Post
                                Just wanted to share this... for the first time since I can remember I am having my period with NO cramps! Apparently my body did some incredible healing with this new nutrition level because I'm on day 3 and zero crampls. I used to throw-up once a month and need 500mg naprosyn 1-2x/day in order to function. But I worked out today.

                                I'm taking my exhaustion from this past month as my body healing something that was wrong seriously wrong. Because the last few days I've had energy and now this! So anyone that's suffering from severe cramps, there is hope if you feed your body well and let it heal.
                                Teach, thanks for sharing your good news about more energy and no cramps!

                                Yes, this way of fixing your body takes time. After almost 6 weeks, I no longer need multiple rest periods to get through the day, which is great. My sleep is so much better I look forward to going to bed because I won't lie there for an hour or more trying to fall asleep and most nights I only wake up once or twice at most - sometimes not at all after years of disturbed sleep. The last two days I have been definitely *hungry* at meal time but not inappropriately hungry between meals. I am getting more done around the house too, and it feels great to start catching up on things.

                                On a different topic, has anyone ever gotten advice from a decorator on what to do with your home? I am bartering with someone who does this professionally but I don't know how to approach it -- I kind of know what I want but I'm better at saying what I don't want (both modern and cutesy are equally yuk) than what I do. I'd love any advice or comments if you have 'em.
                                My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57034.html

                                "...since our orthodox theories have not saved us we may have to readjust them to bring them into harmony with Nature's laws. Nature must be obeyed, not orthodoxy." Weston A. Price

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