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  • Yes, I find that it starts just a few days after ovulation, i desire more calories, and it crescendos on the day before I get my period. Then I get my period, and I practically fast for 3-4 days. I barely eat, mostly drink. Then, it's "normal" (or what I consider normal) for two weeks -- feeling normal really until about 3-4 days before menses, when I just feel very hungry and eat an extra 200 calories per day or so.

    I'm also way more amorous close to menses, though, I'm always thinking about sex, wanting it, etc. It's just even more intense around ovulation (fertility :P ) and then right before menstruation starts.

    So, yay.

    I don't get any other PMS symptoms, and never really did. On occasion, I would get bloating. But nowadays, I don't get that at all. Just hungry and horny. LOL

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    • I've never been able to track my cycle. I am seriously not an organized person in any area of my life. A definite "P" on the Meyers-Briggs. It always bugged me at the doctor's office when they'd ask when my last period was. I couldn't believe anyone kept track of that sort of thing. But I guess most do and I was a total failure of womanhood for being the only one not to. So I have no idea if I get cravings or PMS or anything. I stumble blindly through life. Right now people are on my nerves easily and I spent a week eating beef, beef and more beef but now I'm trying to eat other things this week.
      Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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      • I've posted this in other threads too - I feel like eating more from ovulation to menstruation. Not a particular food and not real hunger, but a desire to eat more. I suppose that would mean my body wants more calories.

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        • Originally posted by Leida View Post
          My mom was very reluctant to give up bread. She gave up pasta, but those 2 slices of bread with her coffee in the morning were her sanctuary. So, after reading the Wheat Belly book, I was so enthusiastically pointing out to her that everything about her makes her a typical case of a wheat sufferer... classic big belly with skinniest limbs while she acts super-active lifestyle; her blood sugar, her latest joints problems. She also got a huge increase in weight when she was working on the phone during food shortages and her diet was basically French bread and milk. I was so enthusiastic about how she is just bound to see improvement if she only gave up wheat for 4 weeks, that she decided she will give it a shot while my daughter is visiting with her for three weeks in the end of summer. I am very interested to see if it really helps her, because it seems that she is now at the cross-roads and her health is starting to get worse one little thing at a time, and it makes my heart ache.
          People who eat bread and other wheat/gluten products are often at a loss of WHAT to eat when those are eliminated from the diet. Maybe you can help her have that all figured out before she "tries" the PB WoF?

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          • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
            I've never been able to track my cycle. I am seriously not an organized person in any area of my life. A definite "P" on the Meyers-Briggs. It always bugged me at the doctor's office when they'd ask when my last period was. I couldn't believe anyone kept track of that sort of thing. But I guess most do and I was a total failure of womanhood for being the only one not to. So I have no idea if I get cravings or PMS or anything. I stumble blindly through life. Right now people are on my nerves easily and I spent a week eating beef, beef and more beef but now I'm trying to eat other things this week.
            You are not alone with the not tracking your cycle. I never knew, usually forgot to track, and only knew it when I was on the pill. But sadly I had messed up hormones after the birth of my son and after a 10 month menses (yes! Light to heavy but non-stop) I stopped having them. I was 39 then and I wonder if I would have gotten them back if I'd discovered the Primal WOL.
            SW: 243
            CW: 177
            Goal: Health

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            • I mark on my calendar 4 weeks from first day of period so I know when I should get my next (it's always been very regular, though lately more like 30 days instead of 28). I have never noticed anything that really seemed like cycle-affected eating or a change in hormonal response (change in libido) aside from a desire for sugar prior to primal.
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              • Originally posted by Judg View Post
                But I will probably have to get right down to my goal weight to be able to wear boots with a normal width shaft, because of the heavy muscles in my legs.
                I know EXACTLY what you mean!! I have small feet and thick, muscular legs, even when I'm not packing around the extra weight. Finding boots that fit worth a damn is a BITCH.
                Life is short. Eat Beef!

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                • okay - here's my 2 cents worth on the hormonal conversation:

                  I don't have periods anymore and I LOVE it! Yeah for menopause! All those years of dealing with the mess and pain and emotional fluctuations!! ALL GONE!

                  Yeah!
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                    okay - here's my 2 cents worth on the hormonal conversation:

                    I don't have periods anymore and I LOVE it! Yeah for menopause! All those years of dealing with the mess and pain and emotional fluctuations!! ALL GONE!

                    Yeah!
                    Amen!

                    Mine's due to having a Mirena, but it was for menopause issues anyway. I'll probably take it out when it's time is up in 4 years, but I haven't had a period or any hormonal issues in 6 years!
                    Durp.

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                    • Originally posted by Pedidoc View Post
                      Giving up bread has been a struggle and pasta - lived in Italy for 2 years and really learned to love it. But if I can put sauce over zucchini or occasional brown rice, I think I can give it up. I don't know if it's the taste so much as the texture I miss.
                      I'm married to an Italian. I so get it. I am now putting the sauce on sweet potatoes, spaghetti squash (a real life-saver that one) and will eventually try grated zucchini (lightly stir-fried in olive oil), strips of portobello mushroom and who knows what else. I do miss the pasta and the really good breads but I do not miss tachycardia and chest pains. Given a choice, and I have been, it's not a hard one to make.
                      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                      - Lewis Mumford

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                      • I had a hysterectomy at the age of 30 (but they left the ovaries in) so I never really knew anything about menopause. It must have happened sometime in the last ten years but I never noticed anything, not hot flashes, night sweats, etc. I feel left out. I have nothing to complain about.

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                        • Great ideas Judg. Thanks for sharing. One issue of giving up pasta and yes the great breads is I only get tummy issues. I lived with it so long, it's become normal, so convincing myself no more is really hard. I'm trying, just got to find work arounds. Now if someone has a substitute for a nice crusty Italian bread..........
                          Female 55
                          Starting wt: 198, Goal: 135, Current with PB: 165
                          Started at a size 16 down to loose 10

                          With PB my asthma has improved, low back pain is gone, & I've got more energy

                          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60175.html

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                          • Yesterday I put pasta sauce on cauliflower. I took a guess at how to make riced cauliflower (and was wrong, but who cares because it came out yummy.) I steamed cauliflower and half a sweet potato. When they were soft I put it in a food processor until it was like bleu cheese crumble or rice sized pieces. The cauliflower and sweet potato mixed together. Put the sauce right on top. Really lite and tasty. (I only used the sweet potato because I spilled beef heart blood all over it and thought it should be used up.)

                            You know, when I was a kid I was allergic to everything. I wasn't allowed to eat bread or cheese, anything with yeast or mold. I can remember getting hives all the time and having to take oatmeal baths. I still get rashes from detergents. I don't think I was allergic to milk or wheat, just mold and yeast. Anyway, it's no wonder I do well on this diet. Much fewer allergens.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • Originally posted by Meegads View Post
                              I know EXACTLY what you mean!! I have small feet and thick, muscular legs, even when I'm not packing around the extra weight. Finding boots that fit worth a damn is a BITCH.
                              Ditto! I've got such small feet I can (and do) wear kids sizes, plus they are wide and have high arches, but I got my dad's muscular legs - in short - open toed shoes and boots are near impossible to find!

                              I know I don't have much hope because my size 4/6 sis who runs 1-2 miles most days also has beefy calves and can't zip up most knee high styles either . . . I'll just have to learn to deal with it . . . *sigh*

                              Originally posted by Sihana
                              Speaking of cycles, until I got my IUD, I showed no signs of ovulation or PMS. There was no change in mucous, nor increased sex drive; not even increased hunger. After the IUD, I learned what pms cramps felt like, and today saw a change in mucous consistency.

                              I find it interesting that it took a piece of copper to "wake" my reproductive system up. I wonder why though.
                              Do you chart? Or anyone else for that matter?

                              I use FAM (fertility awareness method) to chart, but don't do my temp (since I'm not in a relationship at the moment) . . . I never liked the hormones involved with the pills, screwed up my emotions too much, so I plan to continue using FAM when I'm in another committed relationship. I really like how charting helps me learn more about my body and will, I hope, help me to get pregnant as well, when the time comes . . .
                              Healthy Bucket List:
                              • Summit all of Colorado's 14-ers
                              • Hike the Appalachian Trail
                              • Do a real pull-up
                              • Run a 5k
                              • Be "Hot For Training Camp"



                              Check out my journey at Outdoor Amy's Blog.

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                              • I just went on a higher-dose pill (Marvelon - 30 mcg estrogen). I was on Alesse before, which is 20 mcg, and I found that I was still getting my periods irrespective of whether I was taking the active pill or the sugar pill, and I couldn't skip my periods on it. I'm hoping the higher dose will allow me to skip my periods. I haven't finished the first cycle yet, but hopefully it doesn't result in a ton of weight gain or other side effects - I didn't have any problems with Alesse.

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