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  • Tomi and Pedidoc,
    Have you tried not worrying about your calories and macros so much? Choose whole foods that you enjoy, stop eating when you're no longer hungry (not necessarily full). High stress and cortisol levels can stop weight loss. I think what works for me so well about this WOE is that I stress less, just try to move, and take a few minutes every day to truly enjoy life (albeit easy when I can just stop and watch my kids playing). My 2 main goals are to eat only when truly hungry and to keep stress levels as low as possible. Both are tricky with 2 small kids, but I seem to be doing okay lately.

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    • @pedidoc --- we'll figure it out as long as we keep trying! I read what other people are doing and think I should try that, or that, or that....... but every BODY is different. When I posted questons about weight loss and cholesterol and elevated CRP levels a lot of people told me my body isn't going to give up the weight if there is something wrong on a metabolic level. So, I'm in the waiting part of blood tests and saliva tests. Next doc appt is not for 3 weeks. UGH. If nothing is wrong metabolically then it has to be in my diet. I can give up anything if it will result in losing weight! I've given up all grains because it basically cured my fibromyalgia. I will admit lately I've had TOO MUCH dairy - and a bit too much sugar. The past couple weeks have been rough.........and I've let down my guard a bit.

      Its discouraging when so many posts are saying "I just ate what I wanted of healthy real foods and the weight just fell off!" Seriously...... But - that being said, I AM determined to be one of the success stories eventually. We will find the right combination, and we will find our success! Stay with me, pedidoc!
      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
      2. Eat to heal
      3. Move to live
      4. Embrace today
      5. Live with intention
      6. Respect my body
      7. Cultivate joy
      8. Find my passion
      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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      • Tomi,
        I'm in this for the long run. I've been reading this thread and several journals. I agree every body is different and it seems we are more alike than we originally thought!
        Female 55
        Starting wt: 198, Goal: 135, Current with PB: 165
        Started at a size 16 down to loose 10

        With PB my asthma has improved, low back pain is gone, & I've got more energy

        My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60175.html

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        • It really is going to be different for 20-something men and menopausal women. It just is. Hormones, stress, age, number of years eating crap - they all make it a little more difficult, no matter what you eat now.

          Hang in there!
          Durp.

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          • When Mark asked for suggestions on what to add to the MDA world I wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth - Can we please have more information for us older gals? ............. but was affraid I'd get blasted by the guys who think this all works the same no matter what your age or gender. So, I didn't ask.
            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
            2. Eat to heal
            3. Move to live
            4. Embrace today
            5. Live with intention
            6. Respect my body
            7. Cultivate joy
            8. Find my passion
            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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            • I read 11 pages of those comments and several of them begged for more information for older gals. Several of them said the success stories are nice, but where are the older women. It's definitely a glaring omission out there. I never could find a single ancestral health blogger out there who wouldn't just dismiss us older women with derisive comments like "you must be lying and going face-down in the carbs" or "this will work if you don't cheat, you must be cheating" or "if this doesn't work then it's just too late for you."
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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              • I asked for more guest posts, maybe from people on the forums about what's working for them and their self-experimentation process. It'd be nice to highlight folks from the internal community more often, like Nerd Fitness sometimes does.

                It's my time of the month and this is the worst period I've gotten since going primal. I had some really nice periods since then too! My flow got pretty heavy, then lightened, my cramps vanished, my migraines went away etc. This time, my flow is a different consistency than I'm used to (used to be like this on hormonal birth control and I hated it), I've got headaches, bloating (which I NEVER used to get), and awful cramps. I also had really terrible PMS last week. I really just want to eat 90% Lindt dark chocolate all day for the rest of the week for all meals. Except that I know I would get a terrible headache and stomachache! I wish I could go home and sleep
                Depression Lies

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                • The only older woman success story I know of is Paula's:

                  A Primal Woman Looks at 50+ | Mark's Daily Apple

                  However, Paula doesn't have kids and is in fitness industry. Her results are stunning though and make me wanna cry with envy. Her "befores" are pretty much the best I can manage so far.
                  Last edited by Leida; 05-15-2012, 12:38 PM.
                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                  When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                  • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                    I read 11 pages of those comments and several of them begged for more information for older gals. Several of them said the success stories are nice, but where are the older women. It's definitely a glaring omission out there. I never could find a single ancestral health blogger out there who wouldn't just dismiss us older women with derisive comments like "you must be lying and going face-down in the carbs" or "this will work if you don't cheat, you must be cheating" or "if this doesn't work then it's just too late for you."
                    I concur! And more about women in general, and how to work with the huge influences our hormones play. I'll be 31 next month so I'm not in the menopausal crowd yet, but man is it hard to make my weight and/or body composition budge. I feel your frustration about all the young guys acting like we're obviously cheating if we're not seeing weight just fall off. I thank my lucky stars that the weight I'm stuck at is a pretty normal one for my height, but UGH do I ever have terrible cellulite. I've tried all kinds of variations in macronutrients, tried eliminating dairy, tried eliminating fruit, tried a big protein-heavy breakfast ... and the scale magically stays at the EXACT SAME NUMBER despite huge swings in calories, amount of fat, etc. Clearly there is a really robust mechanism at work there to keep it so steady, no? I feel like our hormones have a major part in keeping our set point higher than we'd like, and nobody seems to understand how it works!

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                    • Originally posted by Leida View Post
                      The only older woman success story I know of is Paula's:

                      A Primal Woman Looks at 50+ | Mark's Daily Apple

                      However, Paula doesn't have kids and is in fitness industry. Her results are stunning though and make me wanna cry with envy. Her "befores" are pretty much the best I can manage so far.
                      Paula's success story blew me away too, and I knew immediately who you were talking about from memory, before checking your link.
                      F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                      • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                        When Mark asked for suggestions on what to add to the MDA world I wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth - Can we please have more information for us older gals? ............. but was affraid I'd get blasted by the guys who think this all works the same no matter what your age or gender. So, I didn't ask.
                        I posted a LOOONG laundry list - one was exactly that. If they could somehow also manage to make the success stories, success in the making, even journals searchable by age, sex, challenges, health concerns, it would help me, for one, feel less alone.

                        I, too, saw quite a few cries for older primals and older women to be represented...
                        SW: 243
                        CW: 177
                        Goal: Health

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                        • I've tried all kinds of variations in macronutrients, tried eliminating dairy, tried eliminating fruit, tried a big protein-heavy breakfast ... and the scale magically stays at the EXACT SAME NUMBER despite huge swings in calories, amount of fat, etc. Clearly there is a really robust mechanism at work there to keep it so steady, no? I feel like our hormones have a major part in keeping our set point higher than we'd like, and nobody seems to understand how it works!
                          Me too. From age 16 on, I could never get to and hold weight below 118-120 lbs. And still my whole soul rebels against the idea of the set point spelled out in the Why Women Need Fat (A good book, with a lot of interesting hypothesis on the subject). I just refuse to believe that others can do it, and I cannot.
                          My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                          When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                          • I'm sure Paula is a lovely woman and I'm happy for her success, but I hate her success story. She starts as an already perfect-figured woman, points to the puniest little roll of fat she can barely bunch up on her belly--she even has to slouch to get a decent grip on it, then she turns into a body-building model with bigger muscles than a lot of men. I'm sure lots of people want that, but I would like to see someone go from a typical middle-aged, overweight office-worker type to someone who looks like Paula did in her before pictures.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • ^ Me too!
                              SW: 243
                              CW: 177
                              Goal: Health

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                              • Well, here is my pictures of shame:

                                The first set of pictures is my CW weight loss, 30 lbs in 18 weeks and going sick and completely emaciated in the upper body (age 34-35) and the second set of pictures is after a year of paleo/primal and 2 years of lifting. I will be 37 in September. I hold an 8 hrs a day desk job, commute and have a 5.5 yo daughter. I would consider myself quite below average on athletic achievements front (neither strong, nor fast, nor flexible, but good endurance) and quite inclined to gaining weight. My body is very average female with wide hip and small shoulders, easily losing upper body everything and hoarding around the hip and after birth of my child around the waistline. I actually wrote up my story for Mark, so if anyone is interested I can post it here. But as you know, i can't break my last plateau for love or money, starvation or lifting or sprints.



                                Last edited by Leida; 05-15-2012, 02:41 PM.
                                My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                                When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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