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  • Wow, this meat discussion has really been an eye opener for me! I fell so lucky to be in NZ, to be honest I didn't even know there was anything other than grass fed beef etc until recently. You certainly can't find anything other over here.

    We do have caged or free range chickens/eggs, but the whole grass fed thing is a revelation to me!

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    • My husband hunts and last year I saved a deer liver. I honetly could NOT choke it down. The whole family tried. I need abetter way to utilize it...maybe grind it to add to the ground meat. It needs to be hidden if there is any chance of me consuming it!
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      • Originally posted by solstice View Post
        My husband hunts and last year I saved a deer liver. I honetly could NOT choke it down. The whole family tried. I need abetter way to utilize it...maybe grind it to add to the ground meat. It needs to be hidden if there is any chance of me consuming it!
        Yes, deer liver can be a challenge unless the deer was quite young... it tends to be gamey. If you didn't grow up on it chances are it isn't going to be something you love. Especially if it was a buck shot during rut.
        Certainly grind it and add it to other ground meat... start with a small amount and work your way up to the level you find tolerable but not overwhelming. You still get the nutrition from eating some liver, without having to taste it. Also... a few hours or an overnight soak in buttermilk would probably benefit it.

        Alternately, if it wasn't a rutty buck liver... deer liver is actually pretty nice and great for an oniony, herby, mushroom and liver pate.
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        • Originally posted by KerryK View Post
          OK, I gotta butt in here... I'm a mostly-lurker and been primal for 2 months. Howdy all. I've really been enjoying this post!

          Now, the reason I'm a-buttin' - about this liver business... I could only afford grass-fed bones and liver mostly. Got the bone broth down pat now, but I'm not doing so well with the beef liver (chicken liver is less freak-ish to me). I sauté it with grass-fed butter and shallots or onions and it's not too bad, but the stringy stuff and ?blood vessels? gross me out BIG time. I try to cut them out before cooking but end up wasting what seems like a LOT and money is very tight. How do you all handle that? It's frozen in 1 lb lumps and is rock hard so I have to defrost it and it's not a pretty sight (or feel) cutting those suckers up. What do you folks do?
          So I was talking to my roommate about this (apparently she is WAY into organ meats and making bone broth!) and she would cut the liver into little nibs and take them like pills. Maybe not efficient for getting a big dose of liver, but it is A way if it totally grosses you out.

          I have the same feeling about heart. I had a big bowl of bison stew once and there was a giant piece of heart in it and I could see the tubes and chambers (because it was a piece of bison heart, which is god knows how big), and I was like OH MY GOD IT'S A HEART and I gave it to my brother, who gobbled it up. But then one of my friends took me to this really good yakitori restaurant in NYC and I had chicken hearts on a stick and they were DELICIOUS! So now we know that. And apparently my roommate knows how to prepare heart so it's very tasty. I'll have to get a recipe from her. We are totally geeking out hardcore PB up in my apartment. Our 3rd roommate calls us "protein-a-holics", but I figure if it makes us nicer people to be around, she should thank us. :-D
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          • I bought chicken livers recently and one of them had all these tubes attached to it. I just shoved it in my mouth and ate it. Once you get it past your eyes, all that stuff isn't really that bad. It's similar for tentacles on squid. It seems all meat has little bits that are sort of hard to eat if you are a little squeamish. The fat on a steak can be difficult. The little hard bits of connective tissue or bone that turn up in ground beef can trigger squeamishness. You just have to not let it get to you.
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            • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
              I bought chicken livers recently and one of them had all these tubes attached to it. I just shoved it in my mouth and ate it. Once you get it past your eyes, all that stuff isn't really that bad. It's similar for tentacles on squid. It seems all meat has little bits that are sort of hard to eat if you are a little squeamish. The fat on a steak can be difficult. The little hard bits of connective tissue or bone that turn up in ground beef can trigger squeamishness. You just have to not let it get to you.
              Gotta say, from my calamari-eating days, that I LOVE the little leg pieces!

              I have also in the past made giblet gravy when I cook whole chickens. So maybe if you make a soup out of the organ meats and thicken it up with some sort of approved Primal thickener, it'd be a lot like eating giblet gravy? I dunno. I DO know that I LOVE giblet gravy.

              I'm not opposed to trying something new. And I love to eat the fat off of a ribeye, and I'll even crunch the cartilage knuckles on chicken bones. I think if organ meats were properly prepared so that they weren't too dry or bland, I could eat them. May have to get some liver from the store sometime and try it out.

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              • Well, livers come for free with out grass-fed beef and pasteurized pork, and our farmer loads us with tons of it. The only problem my husband for some reason draws a line at eating liver because of his cholesterol (just a weird thing) and daughter never tried it yet. So, i am the only one eating it, and you all know, a separate meal is hard to cook sometimes.

                I probably should just cook a liver dinner one night and see how it goes. I am sure my husband at least will be Okay when faced with the plate.
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                • Anyone going on vacation (holiday?) this summer? We have to vacation in the winter due to the nature of my husbands business - and I'm REALLY ready to get away for a bit! Share you vacation plans so I can live vicariously through you! We will however, be spending most weekends at the lake on the boat. I guess thats lots of tiny little vacations isn't it?
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                  4. Embrace today
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                  7. Cultivate joy
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                  • It certainly is. My main vacation plan is to get my hubby home for the summer. Then we will see.
                    5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                    Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                    Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

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                    • We're taking the kids to a hotel that has an indoor waterpark and is on the beach (lake Michigan). There's also a nearby children's museum. Just looking to get away and keep the kids (2 and 4) entertained without being overwhelmed. We leave 1 month from Thursday!

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                      • We are planning to go for 2 weeks to Russia, Moscow and St. Petersburg. That's if the paperwork comes through. It's going to be expensive and stressful. I wish something goes wrong and I have an excuse to go anywhere else. Alas, my daughter and my husband never met my grandma, she is just shy of 90, and I haven't had a chance to say good buys to my other grandparents before they died, so I am under the obligation to go, no matter how much I hate it, and how this is not going to be a vacation at all. Oh, well, I hope I shall live through the experience and it is just one year of vacations wasted on Russia.
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                        • Leida, why do you hate it so much? I would be thrilled to go.
                          5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                          Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                          Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                          More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                          - Lewis Mumford

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                          • Originally posted by Judg View Post
                            It certainly is. My main vacation plan is to get my hubby home for the summer. Then we will see.
                            I hope this isn't being snoopy....... does he travel for his job? Or is away due to an illness?
                            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                            2. Eat to heal
                            3. Move to live
                            4. Embrace today
                            5. Live with intention
                            6. Respect my body
                            7. Cultivate joy
                            8. Find my passion
                            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                            • He is a professor and works in the States. For a variety of practical reasons, none of them particularly interesting, we stayed behind in Canada when he got the job. I have applied for my green card, seeing as the kids are grown up and the practical reasons no longer apply, but since I applied about the time I was hitting rock bottom in terms of exhaustion, jumping through all the hoops involved has been an extremely slow process for me. I hope to get at that better as my energy improves. I've been saying that for a year or so, but something always comes along to blow my plans out of the water.

                              Ennyhoo, seeing as he's a professor, he usually gets to come home for a nice long summer break (although he teaches online courses, he can do that from here). But now they are holding him back for more and more administrative tasks. *sigh* This year has been worse than normal, with various things keeping him away from home more than usual. He drives home for long weekends, as it's doable, but this year not so much. We are getting pretty fed up with living apart.
                              5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                              Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                              Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                              More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                              - Lewis Mumford

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                              • Leida, why do you hate it so much? I would be thrilled to go.
                                Because I was born there, I loved it with an unquestionable love of a child, and then was put through the wringer of the horrid times, to see it all destroyed, every hope dismantled, and my life how I imagined it just crashed when I was 16 and just about to start living it. It's kindda hard on a teen, so I hated, the way young people do. Twenty years down the road, I am foregin to everything there, so it's a hassle of organizing the trip and making sure my folks have a good time, when what I need is a long lie down on the beach when everything is taken care of and paid for in advance and I can relax and not worry that someone is going to rob us or hassle us because my innocent kid is speaking English to my innocent husband on the street. I am afraid. I still have Russian nightmares at times. I am afraid they won't let me out, from their hell to go home.
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