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  • I've seen this post before - I'm wondering what its all about too. Almost looks "spam-ish".
    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
    2. Eat to heal
    3. Move to live
    4. Embrace today
    5. Live with intention
    6. Respect my body
    7. Cultivate joy
    8. Find my passion
    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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    • Originally posted by jo View Post
      I think they need to look more into the diets if those that don't fail. And perhaps the rate of weight loss. Someone that loses 20-30lbs in a year and allows themself a cheat here and there is more likely to continue the weight loss/maitain then those doing a crash/restrictive diet or even a diet of crap food.

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      • I am a brand spanking new member here as of today! My husband and I got our Primal Blueprint book in the mail yesterday and have been reading and highlighting all kinds of things. We have been working out in the gym, but I find I prefer the treadmill over just about anything. How long before you started to see changes after going Primal?

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        • Originally posted by teach2183 View Post
          I think they need to look more into the diets if those that don't fail. And perhaps the rate of weight loss. Someone that loses 20-30lbs in a year and allows themself a cheat here and there is more likely to continue the weight loss/maitain then those doing a crash/restrictive diet or even a diet of crap food.

          The figure is those who failed on this particularly year long study. Other long term data suggests that dieting has a 95% failure rate.
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          • Originally posted by Sihana
            Cold Thermogenesis Guidelines/Results page

            A thread we have going on it. It basically is using cold exposure to provide therapeutic effects, such as increased weight loss, better sleep, better muscle growth. The argument is that humans no longer experience winter or extreme temperatures much anymore, and as such, have been losing out on many of the benefits that the temperatures trigger with gene expression.
            Thanks Sihana. I take it the people making this argument are not Canadian... LOL!
            5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
            Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
            Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

            More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
            - Lewis Mumford

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            • Originally posted by Judg View Post
              I have been mulling this over, again, and one thing that resurfaced in my mind is that 2/3 of dieters regained the weight. Which means 1/3 didn't. They should be researching what that 1/3 has in common and how much of it is fully under their control. Now THAT would be useful. And if 1/3 do not regain, then "doomed" is hardly the word I would choose.
              About ten years ago I dropped 70 pounds. I did not gain it (all) back. I lost it through CW methods (eDiets and a 3-day-a-week 30-minute kickboxing DVD). It's probably what triggered the cascade that killed my thyroid, but by god, I lost weight. (I was 220-ish and a US size 18-20 pants, I now hover around 152 and a US size 8-10.)

              I did creep back up to 170 at one point, then I moved away from a bad job and instantly lost 5 pounds. Then I dieted some more, and lost 5 more. Then I went vegan, and gained weight. Then I went paleo, and lost about 15 pounds total.

              I'm now once again hovering between 152-155. I'm trying to find what will allow me to lose weight while remaining paleo. I love the way paleo feels. I just wish it would let me lose those last 25 pounds.

              We're TTC right now, so I'm not worrying about weight loss too much. Or gain, because I'm not gaining anymore. No insidious creep. It doesn't seem to matter if I'm super strict or allowing gray-area things like rice and corn and honey and buckwheat. Doesn't matter if I IF or eat 3 squares. Doesn't matter if I do Crossfit or walk or weight lift. I stay at 152. I'm a healthy 152, but I would rather be a healthy 130.
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              • Steph, many congratulations on losing so much weight and keeping it off. This is already a major victory. How long have you been stuck at the same point?

                I don't know if it will be useful to you, or anyone here, but maybe a few words on how I managed to lose my weight despite having chronic fatigue and being unable to significantly increase my activity level (other than becoming more faithful with my walks) will be helpful.

                First I prepared myself for a long time by improving my eating habits. Eat real food - no chemical substitutes - and eat with joy were my two rules. I knew I had to have a baseline of good eating so that I wouldn't pack weight on when I went back to normal. Then when I did start losing (ironically because I was too exhausted to do even the simplest food preparation) I devised a rather simple strategy to beat the "plateau".

                My reasoning was that if our body goes into famine mode after three weeks of a calorie-restricted diet, then I should quite simply stop dieting. I couldn't increase my energy output to ramp up my metabolism, so I would just go back to normal after three weeks. Or semi-normal. For the first couple of weeks my body would fight to return to its normal, my former weight. And I argued with it, using intermittent fasting, the occasional single day of restricted food, until I finally won the argument. Then I would just eat normally for a while, establishing a new baseline weight. Every three months I repeated the cycle: 3 weeks of undereating, 2-3 of monitoring my weight very closely and resisting any attempt by the fat to return, and then back to normal.

                I don't know how well this meshes with primal, but it's how I did it for a couple of years. Then between hormonal change and some life stressors, I just wasn't able to maintain that cycle, so I just have a few days here and there of cutting back, so I have only lost 10 pounds over the last 10 months. But I did lose them and while there has been the inevitable seesawing, it hasn't been significant. I always manage to nudge myself one pound down every month.

                I've only been eating primal for a week now, and it was on the heels of a trip which always makes me put on a little weight, if only from my digestive system slowing down, but I've lost a pound or two over that time, which is nice, even though that isn't my primary goal in eliminating grains. I just want to get healthier. I really badly want to get healthier, so I have cheerfully passed on foods which used to be almost irresistible, in the hopes that I will reap major benefits.

                Anyway, all of that is to say that maybe it might be a good thing to let yourself stall for a while, and then attack the weight sporadically. It's a method that has served me well. Of course, if you've been stalled for quite a long time and none of the attack methods have worked, then this has not been helpful at all...
                Last edited by Judg; 04-25-2012, 06:24 PM. Reason: typos making it harder to understand
                5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                - Lewis Mumford

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                • Judg - thats a pretty awesome that you figured all that out and were able to stay the course even through the stalls! Good advice I'd say!

                  I lost 15 pounds the first couple months after starting - then nothing. Doesn't matter how I play with things - the weight doesn't move. Hoping the doctor can tell me my thyroid is needing a boost. I think when I get some answers from the doctor I will try following your method. Will see what she says...... Right now I'm pretty frustrated! I'm eating around 1200-1400 calories a day, and I've been the same weight for 3 months. It might fluctuate a couple pounds both directions but it certainly isn't going down. I'm still totally sold on this way of eating though, that won't change even if I don't lose another ounce.

                  That Thermogenesis thing doesn't sound very fun......... I don't like being cold! I'd rather try cooking it off in a sauna than freezing it off in a cold bath.
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • Originally posted by brennagough View Post
                    I am a brand spanking new member here as of today! My husband and I got our Primal Blueprint book in the mail yesterday and have been reading and highlighting all kinds of things. We have been working out in the gym, but I find I prefer the treadmill over just about anything. How long before you started to see changes after going Primal?
                    Good to see you here!

                    How soon you see results will depend on about 7,648,329,759 different things, some of which are how closely you follow the guidelines, how much damage your body has to repair, age, stress levels, hormone levels and luck of the draw.

                    Just don't get upset if your husband gets a head start on you. Seems like any kind of diet has men seeing results sooner than women do. Not fair, but reality. Also, if you're looking to lose weight, you might drop some water weight right away since you're not eating bread and pasta anymore. After that, you might feel like nothing is happening if the scale isn't moving. Ask your husband, and I bet he'll see a difference in your shape, even at the same weight. And frankly, I couldn't care less what the scale says, I care what my butt looks like!
                    Durp.

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                    • Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                      How soon you see results will depend on about 7,648,329,759 different things, some of which are how closely you follow the guidelines, how much damage your body has to repair, age, stress levels, hormone levels and luck of the draw.
                      I think you forgot one...

                      Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                      And frankly, I couldn't care less what the scale says, I care what my butt looks like!
                      LOL! Because we are the only ones who see what the scale says...
                      5'2", 55 years, Primal since April. Pre-Primal weight loss, from 216.6 to 157.8
                      Primal low: 140.2 (Dec. 3) Goal weight: 135?
                      Main Primal goal: beating back my CFS enough to function more normally and start writing again

                      More and more, our life has been governed by specialists, who know too little of what lies outside their province to be able to know enough about what takes place within it.
                      - Lewis Mumford

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                      • Originally posted by Judg View Post
                        Steph, many congratulations on losing so much weight and keeping it off. This is already a major victory. How long have you been stuck at the same point?
                        I've been at 150-ish twice. Once was five years ago, and it took starving myself with brown rice and tofu, as well as seeing a personal trainer three days a week, to get there. The moment I stopped starving, the weight bounced back. I was absolutely miserable.

                        The second time is now, and I've been this way since August-September. No starvation, which is nice! I suspect I need to be diligent for an extended period and bear down on the calorie restriction and the treats. I'm leery of diet mumbo-jumbo, but I swear sometimes the whole set-point thing is real. It really does seem as if my body thinks it should be at 152 pounds.

                        And like I said, I'm really not worrying about it too much right now. We're focusing on TTC, and that's not the time to start experimenting with diets. It's also not the time to stop being primal. So onward we go...luckily, I really like eating this way!
                        Steph
                        My Primal Meanderings

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                        • Ok, here we go - my first TOM since going primal. Is anyone else absolutely STARVING during their cycle?? I swear, I've eaten ALL DAY (only good things, of course ) and an hour later, I'm hungry again! And it's not boredom - I can tell the difference between bored hunger and real hunger these days. I ate like a half-pound of bacon with breakfast, and wanted MORE bacon for dinner!! Is this normal? I'm trying not to worry about calories and fat grams and to just feed my body what it wants and get through this week. Hopefully next week, things balance back out.

                          On a happy note, I'm nearly cramp-free this time - and I typically get cramps so badly, I spend two days in bed with a hot pack and a bottle of Vicodin. So yay for that!
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                          • Originally posted by Meegads View Post
                            Ok, here we go - my first TOM since going primal. Is anyone else absolutely STARVING during their cycle?? I swear, I've eaten ALL DAY (only good things, of course ) and an hour later, I'm hungry again! And it's not boredom - I can tell the difference between bored hunger and real hunger these days. I ate like a half-pound of bacon with breakfast, and wanted MORE bacon for dinner!! Is this normal? I'm trying not to worry about calories and fat grams and to just feed my body what it wants and get through this week. Hopefully next week, things balance back out.

                            On a happy note, I'm nearly cramp-free this time - and I typically get cramps so badly, I spend two days in bed with a hot pack and a bottle of Vicodin. So yay for that!
                            I wrote the exact same post last week! I ate nuts as a snack like ALL day. Your body burns more calories during TOM I think, so it would make sense that your appetite would increase. I just made sure to pay very close attention to my hunger and I've found I maintain that week and lose 1.5-2lbs the week after. So I'm guessing the maintain weight is water weight. I've also had the reduction in cramps. Now if I could just figure out the utter exhaustion too!

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                            • Originally posted by brennagough View Post
                              I am a brand spanking new member here as of today! My husband and I got our Primal Blueprint book in the mail yesterday and have been reading and highlighting all kinds of things. We have been working out in the gym, but I find I prefer the treadmill over just about anything. How long before you started to see changes after going Primal?
                              I didn't see any weight loss for about 4-5 weeks. I struggled with carb flu really badly, too, especially at week 5 when I really thought I should see a doctor. I spent that week taking photos of everything I ate so I could post it somewhere and ask for help for why I wasn't losing. All my research on the Internet just showed me there were a lot of women my age and older who lost no weight and the only answer to them was "you must be cheating." How rude and dismissive. So that's why I took pictures so I'd have proof and get a real answer. But during that week I felt so awful instead I asked about why I thought I might die instead. I learned about magnesium, potassium and sodium, took that and felt better and finally started losing. Now I'm pretty much stuck here at 135 but I guess I can live with it.

                              I managed a 20 hour fast yesterday. I'm trying to resume my once a week fast now that it's not so cold. Trying to be more strict in general, too. Ran out of chocolate and did not replace it. Will do the same when the wine runs out. I really would like to wear a bathing suit without feeling like I'm going to die of embarrassment.
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                              • Originally posted by Meegads View Post
                                Ok, here we go - my first TOM since going primal. Is anyone else absolutely STARVING during their cycle?? I swear, I've eaten ALL DAY (only good things, of course ) and an hour later, I'm hungry again! And it's not boredom - I can tell the difference between bored hunger and real hunger these days. I ate like a half-pound of bacon with breakfast, and wanted MORE bacon for dinner!! Is this normal? I'm trying not to worry about calories and fat grams and to just feed my body what it wants and get through this week. Hopefully next week, things balance back out.

                                On a happy note, I'm nearly cramp-free this time - and I typically get cramps so badly, I spend two days in bed with a hot pack and a bottle of Vicodin. So yay for that!
                                I'm hungrier during my TOM too (right now actually) - I have to stay away from nuts and stuff, or I will eat them all day long. Just gorged on eggs and pork sausage for breakfast and I will need to eat again in a few hours...I can already tell.
                                My cramps are easier, and after the first few months of total irregularity in TOMs everything is totally normal (whatever normal really is)

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