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  • Originally posted by bamems View Post
    Hi
    I am brand new to the Primal lifestyle. Thanks for starting the She-Grok thread.
    I was diagnosed with firbromyalgia about 10 years ago. Just when I was in the best shape of my life, the pains started. I refuse to use the pharmaceutical industry to "help" me with my physical pain. I keep moving and just started the primal way of eating on 9/2. I'm very disappointed that I haven't lost weight yet, but am hopeful that once my gut heals a bit and I stop with the sugar, I'll be on my way. One thing at a time.
    Beth
    Beth, welcome. I didn't suffer from fibromyalgia, but it could have been (never diagnosed). However I ached for about three years after a bout of awful illnesses. I week into primal, I woke up one morning and thought....I am not aching ! I am hoping that this is the case for you too.
    Good luck with your journey, and keep us posted on your progress.
    G
    "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

    ...small steps....

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    • Originally posted by KimInGA View Post
      Do you think it some something specific you were eating that lead to the insomnia? Did you ever pinpoint any certain foods? I ask because I've had some level of insomnia for about 10 years now, but I was doing ok with a benadryl or two (25-50mg) per night. After I went primal last October though, it got worse. Like, walking dead worse. Weeks on end where I never got more than 2-4 hours a night. (
      Mine was caused by my favorite 'cheat' - a glass of wine or a cocktail (or three). When I don't drink, I sleep, all night (like last night, for instance). For a couple nights before my period I still get insomnia, but it's getting better. A few things that also affect my sleep:

      - Not enough fat
      - Too much garlic or onions in my dinner (garlic is like speed to me)
      - A dinner heavy in nightshades (ie: tomato sauce or primal chili)
      - When I run or exercise later in the day

      However - I am sleeping a ton better after cutting out dairy last week (7th day is today). My sleep is more deep? Uninterrupted? Made some clarified pastured butter and a clarified butter/coconut oil combo for my AM coffee. I didn't even wake up once last night - a first in a long time - even to use the loo.

      Historically, one of the best ways of ensuring that I get a full night's sleep is a heavy, heavy strength workout in the morning that hits all major body parts, followed by plenty of protein and fat all day. For some reason my body says 'okay, building time' and will start shutting down at 9pm, I literally have to go to bed. Even when I was eating crappy I worked this way.

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      • Oh and speaking of minor aches and pains - no dairy=my nagging sciatica and hip tightness pain is almost non existant, along with a few spots in my back that are always tight. They're still there, but not annoying.

        I also feel much more limber? Not that I've ever been flexible, but it feels like that when I take a minute to stretch it actually works, and my muscles release a bit.

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        • Thanks Gwamma.
          I still hurt a lot with muscle pain, but it's been that way for 8+ years. The odd thing is I was diagnosed with FM when I was in THE best shape of my life. I wasn't a couch potato (ever) and was lean and fit.
          I'm not giving up on the primal way of life yet, that's for sure. It's already "cured" my battle with hot flashes. What a relief there.
          Cheers,
          Beth



          Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
          Beth, welcome. I didn't suffer from fibromyalgia, but it could have been (never diagnosed). However I ached for about three years after a bout of awful illnesses. I week into primal, I woke up one morning and thought....I am not aching ! I am hoping that this is the case for you too.
          Good luck with your journey, and keep us posted on your progress.
          G

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          • If food is bothering my sleep, I haven't been able to figure out what it is. I've tried so many elimination diets over the years. None of them ever had any positive impact on my sleep. I don't do well with caffeine, but I also don't consume any either (not a coffee drinker or soda or even tea).

            Over the years I have done a variety of exercising/working out/moving and it has certainly included weight workouts. Thank you for the advice. So far nothing has worked consistently...not drugs (which are an absolute last resort,that I don't even use anymore b/c I"m against big pharma), herbs, meditation, yoga, etc.

            I'll keep trying and listening to what others have to say.




            Originally posted by HotRodKristina View Post
            Mine was caused by my favorite 'cheat' - a glass of wine or a cocktail (or three). When I don't drink, I sleep, all night (like last night, for instance). For a couple nights before my period I still get insomnia, but it's getting better. A few things that also affect my sleep:

            - Not enough fat
            - Too much garlic or onions in my dinner (garlic is like speed to me)
            - A dinner heavy in nightshades (ie: tomato sauce or primal chili)
            - When I run or exercise later in the day

            However - I am sleeping a ton better after cutting out dairy last week (7th day is today). My sleep is more deep? Uninterrupted? Made some clarified pastured butter and a clarified butter/coconut oil combo for my AM coffee. I didn't even wake up once last night - a first in a long time - even to use the loo.

            Historically, one of the best ways of ensuring that I get a full night's sleep is a heavy, heavy strength workout in the morning that hits all major body parts, followed by plenty of protein and fat all day. For some reason my body says 'okay, building time' and will start shutting down at 9pm, I literally have to go to bed. Even when I was eating crappy I worked this way.

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            • Just wanted to pop in with a little report! I'm on Day 10 of the 21 Day Challenge and going strong! No cheats or deviations I haven't weighed yet....... waiting until Oct. 2nd. But my clothes are feeling loser and I see a little thinner face looking back at me from the bathroom mirror! Also --- those pesky under eye bags and puffiness are GONE! Probably the lack of "intoxicating beverages" on that one!

              Will have a very challenging weekend........... spending it on our boat in the Pudget sound. Hubby always like to have junk food on the boat --- so I will need to have my armor on to resist! And he's informed me that there is a bottle of rum already on board. I'm a sucker for a rum and diet coke. Poison + poison. Maybe I'll take a sharpy and draw a skull and bones on the rum label so I will have a bold reminder that I don't need to drink any!!!!! I might take alone some dark chocolate as my "treat". I'll try to go to the 86% so there is less sugar.

              Anyone else doing the challenge............ how are you doing?
              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
              2. Eat to heal
              3. Move to live
              4. Embrace today
              5. Live with intention
              6. Respect my body
              7. Cultivate joy
              8. Find my passion
              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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              • I'm not doing the challenge as such (although sounds like you are doing great Tomi)

                Just to update since I started Primal eating nearly 2 weeks ago

                I have lost 9lbs, 2 inches off my waist, clothes are feeling looser and I am feeling great. I have been reading loads of books- currently on Wheat Belly after reading John Briffa and Gary Taubes and I am just more and more horrified at the way CW has been misleading us and ignoring the facts

                Just sitting at my desk at work (in bright and early after waking up refreshed 20 minutes before my alarm went off) tucking into berries, greek yogurt, nuts and a fresh ground coffee with cream - yum! I have an avocado, ham salad for lunch and DH is making pork steaks with a chorizo cream sauce and spring greens for dinner. I love this way of life and my only regret is I did not find it sooner. I am still having a couple of glasses of wine or a gin and diet tonic, and very dark chocolate when I feel like it.

                I will shortly be under 220lbs for the first time in quite a while and I can see 200 approaching in the not too distant future - that will be somewhere I haven't been for over 10 years. If I wasn't so happy I would cry with relief that the answer was just so obvious

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                • Originally posted by Sarahsparkle View Post
                  I will shortly be under 220lbs for the first time in quite a while and I can see 200 approaching in the not too distant future - that will be somewhere I haven't been for over 10 years. If I wasn't so happy I would cry with relief that the answer was just so obvious
                  So glad to hear you are getting off to a great start and seeing such great results! How exciting! This WOE is not a magic bullet to weight loss, but if do find the "sweet spot" for your particular needs - the weight does come off. Some fast, some not so fast. Keep up the great work and progress!
                  1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                  2. Eat to heal
                  3. Move to live
                  4. Embrace today
                  5. Live with intention
                  6. Respect my body
                  7. Cultivate joy
                  8. Find my passion
                  9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                  • A strong argument that weight loss is harder for women:
                    Diabetes Update: My Live Call-In Show with Jimmy Moore is Now a Podcast
                    Jenny is not entirely supportive of primal, but she is excellent on research-based low carb.
                    __________________________
                    age 56, type 2 diabetes, swimmer
                    low carb since 2006 thanks to Jenny, primal since Jan. 2012

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                    • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                      Just wanted to pop in with a little report! I'm on Day 10 of the 21 Day Challenge and going strong! No cheats or deviations I haven't weighed yet....... waiting until Oct. 2nd. But my clothes are feeling loser and I see a little thinner face looking back at me from the bathroom mirror! Also --- those pesky under eye bags and puffiness are GONE! Probably the lack of "intoxicating beverages" on that one!

                      Will have a very challenging weekend........... spending it on our boat in the Pudget sound. Hubby always like to have junk food on the boat --- so I will need to have my armor on to resist! And he's informed me that there is a bottle of rum already on board. I'm a sucker for a rum and diet coke. Poison + poison. Maybe I'll take a sharpy and draw a skull and bones on the rum label so I will have a bold reminder that I don't need to drink any!!!!! I might take alone some dark chocolate as my "treat". I'll try to go to the 86% so there is less sugar.

                      Anyone else doing the challenge............ how are you doing?
                      Ah, the Puget Sound! Why ruin it with diet soda? Seriously, don't have any on board and you'll be fine.

                      I lived in Bellingham for a decade and I miss it dearly.

                      Great job! Keep it up.
                      sigpic
                      Age 48
                      Start date: 7-5-12
                      5'3"
                      121lbs
                      GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


                      "In health there is freedom. Health is the first of all liberties."
                      Henri Frederic Amiel

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                      • Originally posted by Pamsc View Post
                        A strong argument that weight loss is harder for women:
                        Diabetes Update: My Live Call-In Show with Jimmy Moore is Now a Podcast
                        Jenny is not entirely supportive of primal, but she is excellent on research-based low carb.
                        Wow, that is totally no nonsense. I certainly don't want to spend the rest of my life "staying on a very rigid, low calorie diet for the rest of their lives." I guess it's pretty hopeless to expect I'll ever lose more than I already have.
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • Ah HA! I bought Volek and Phinney's Low Carb Performance book and there it is highlighted and everything. Exercise slows the metabolism on average between 5 and 15% when overweight people exercise for more than an hour a day! It all makes sense now. I think I'm starting to see that there is actually no way in hell to actually ever become a thin person if you have been a fat one. It appears at the very best you can get somewhat presentable but you will always struggle, always. It also explains why the longer I hiked the Pacific Crest Trail the less I could eat with abandon even though my hunger increased continuously.
                          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                          • I found this podcast. I hate listening to stuff online, but I listened to the whole thing. It was mostly women doing everything perfectly and not getting the results that are supposed to be just sooo easy calling in and asking Stephen Phinney what's the deal. The Dr.'s answers were pretty good most of the time. The boyfriend was watching some stupid sci-fi channel movie last night, so I just put on my headphones and listened to this while watching space bugs gore people to death.
                            23: Long-Term Stalls & Weight Gain Even On A Well-Formulated Low-Carb Diet | Dr. Stephen Phinney | Jimmy Moore Presents: Ask The Low-Carb Experts
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • to those of you having sleep issues, this happened to me when i first started cleaning up my diet. gradually it sorts itself out, but what has really helped is no eating after dinner, a very dark room with white noise, a magnesium supplement everyday and epsom salts baths. that last one is recent and i feel so relaxed after it's amazing, truly.
                              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                              Ernest Hemingway

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                              • I recently had blood work done and the doctor was concerned that my cholesterol is elevated. She asked me to meet with a diet educator to talk about ways to lower my cholesterol through diet. I met with the RN and she showed me the Canada Food Guide with lots of emphasis on "healthy whole grains".

                                It was a disappointing and frustrating meeting as the discussion was very one-sided. With no baseline to mark a trend they decided that paleo must be causing my cholesterol to go up even though I am losing weight from my belly. I managed to talk them into allowing me 3 months on the diet with no modifications before we do another blood test to get a trend line. If it's coming down then paleo is helping to bring it down and I will make no changes. If it is going up I may consider letting some foods go like *sob* bacon. We will do another test in 6 months as well. I have committed to eating more leafy greens and oily fish like salmon to raise my HDL cholesterol but at this time those are the only changes I am willing to make.

                                She also sent me for a test for celiac, I think she figures if it comes back negative she will have an argument for me to put grains back in my diet but I don't think she realizes that I am not willing to go back to a way of eating that made me fat and unwell in the first place. I am incredibly frustrated by the closemindedness of our health professionals but I am not particularly surprised by it either and that saddens me.

                                Has anyone else had their cholesterol go down while following paleo without taking out the usual suspects, (bacon, eggs and all natural fats) and if so approximately how long did it take? I have been eating paleo since mid-June and we have no idea what my cholesterol was like before I started. The last blood work I did was for mortgage insurance about six years ago and there was nothing unusual in the lipids at that time. My belief is that my diet from that time to this year caused my cholesterol to go up and that paleo is bringing it down but without a trend line I have no idea if that is true or not.
                                I'm a 39 y/o mother of 3 sons ages 12, 14, and 15
                                HT: 5'7"
                                SW: 223 June 2012
                                CW: 191.4 April 21 2013
                                TWL2D: 32 lbs

                                Primal Goals: to feel healthier, fitter, and sexier than ever before

                                Favourite primal resources: The Food Lovers Make it Paleo cookbook, Practical Paleo by Diane Sanfilippo, The Food Lovers Kitchen, Primal Kitchen: A Family Grokumentary and of course Mark's Daily Apple!

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