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  • Yes there are lots of bugs going around! happens every year when the kids go back to school. I was sick a couple weeks ago with some kind of stomach bug --- didn't throw up, but gagged a alot and everything was going "south" if you get my drift. But if you suspect the bone broth - throw it out.
    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
    2. Eat to heal
    3. Move to live
    4. Embrace today
    5. Live with intention
    6. Respect my body
    7. Cultivate joy
    8. Find my passion
    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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    • I've got an intestinal bug. At least I'm not constipated anymore? =\
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      • There is a sunny side to any situation!
        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
        2. Eat to heal
        3. Move to live
        4. Embrace today
        5. Live with intention
        6. Respect my body
        7. Cultivate joy
        8. Find my passion
        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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        • Love this thread, thanks gals!

          Originally posted by tomi View Post
          I'm following Paleobirds EAT MOAR FAT concept --- 10% carbs 20% proteins 70% fat........... the weight is coming off. Read The Eating Academy website for more good info on why you should eat lots of good healthy fats.
          Thanks also for the referral to The Eating Academy site...I've been reading nutrition blogs, forums, and books galore in the last few weeks due to a recurrance of my ongoing issue, a lack of energy that affects my ability to work and the accompanying weight gain. The cliff notes version of my journey is that in my late 20s I would eat a "healthy" breakfast of Grape Nuts, fat-free sugared yogurt, and a big bowl of fruit then become a zombie by 10 am...literally sitting on the sofa staring into space. Figured out I needed to eat some protein, duh.

          Skipping over other dietary misadventures, by my mid-40s was eating 5 times a day and gradually heading towards joining the 200 Pound Club. Stumbled over the Leptin Diet 5 Rules and started following them religiously... got rid of the post-dinner snack, then after a while was able to eliminate the afternoon snack. With no other changes (eating hi veggie, reasonable protein level) gradually went from 185 to 165 in a few months. I'm tall, 5' 11" which can hide weight gain from other people but the pants don't lie!

          Now post-M at 53, weight has been creeping up again but the real issue is again an insidious lack of energy and focus for the last few months that eroded my ability to work (am self-employed). Stumbled over The Perfect Diet blog, read their book plus Deep Nutrition, Why We Get Fat, Wheat Belly, etc. plus various blogs/forums and have discovered the joys of eating FAT and not eating grains. Resumed eating coconut oil and cream, drastically cut back on all carbs. Weight gain has stopped and reversed a little but more importantly I can work again. Many more good days than bad, have ambitions again, am cooking up a storm, still not ready for too much exercise yet. Am keeping a log to track food intake plus feelings each day because I still have crash days (e.g. napping all afternoon)...perhaps a detox symptom?

          This nutrition stuff is a tad complex but my motto is I will eat or NOT eat just about ANYTHING to feel good. Have enjoyed trying many new (to me) things in the last few weeks...raw salmon eggs, calves liver, chicken heart patè, Kerrygold butter, raw milk cheddar, roasted whole snapper (ate skin and other scary parts), bone broths, etc. Thanks to everyone who is sharing stories on this forum, I need all the clues I can get! Still figuring out what my optimum macro levels are...
          Age 55, post-menopausal, primal since August '12 with some dairy, lots of seafood, following PHD and the 5 Leptin Rules. Taking ThyroGold, eating RS and zero wheat with great results. My Primal Journal

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          • Originally posted by HotRodKristina View Post
            golangrok: When I first started cutting things out and being more paleo, my body didn't like some of the things I ate, especially around dinner time, and I had bouts of tummyaches/nausea. I also suffered from about 3 weeks of horrid insomnia. Lately though I've been sleeping a lot better, I think it just takes awhile for your body to start healing. Get some candied ginger and snack on that, it's pretty effective at helping your tummy settle down.
            Do you think it some something specific you were eating that lead to the insomnia? Did you ever pinpoint any certain foods? I ask because I've had some level of insomnia for about 10 years now, but I was doing ok with a benadryl or two (25-50mg) per night. After I went primal last October though, it got worse. Like, walking dead worse. Weeks on end where I never got more than 2-4 hours a night. I went to several different doctors, not wanting to get hooked on ambien (which they all wanted to prescribe), until finally a naturopath put me on magnesium, serenagen and phosphatidylserine. Now I'm taking all 3 of those PLUS benadryl just so I can get 6 hours of sleep for every 8 I lay in bed.

            Very frustrated that I'm having to take so many pills just to get mediocre sleep. I've tried removing each one independently but slept terribly so it seems that I need them all just to eke out my 6 hours. I've got all the other regular sleep hygiene rules covered (blackout curtains, no blue light, etc.) I'm coming up on a year of eating primal though, and honestly I feel worse than I did before! I also have not been able to lose one single lb (or inch). Has anyone else had bad results like this? Have you figured out how to get past it, or did it just go away eventually?

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            • How close to bed do you eat? I found that I sleep best if I have at least 3 hours between me and dinner. Then I found that a bit of carbs about an hour before bed helps me relax even more. but not too much, because then I can't sleep!

              Have you ever tried Melatonin? Do you have trouble falling asleep, staying asleep, or both?
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              • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                How close to bed do you eat? I found that I sleep best if I have at least 3 hours between me and dinner. Then I found that a bit of carbs about an hour before bed helps me relax even more. but not too much, because then I can't sleep!

                Have you ever tried Melatonin? Do you have trouble falling asleep, staying asleep, or both?
                I agree, it's best to leave at least a few hours in between dinner and bedtime. I try but don't always achieve that since my husband works late. I've also tried various snacks to see if they make any difference. And yes I've tried melatonin ... I don't find a noticeable difference with or without it so I'd rather go without in the quest for fewer pills.

                The thing I find odd is that this was never such a problem before I went paleo. Now I'm meticulously downing a cocktail of pills, closing my blackout curtains, hiding from the blue light my tv emits (hubby likes to watch at night), running in fear from the tiniest chocolate chip (lest I consume any caffeine), running an air cleaner for white noise ... and I still can't get even the same quality of sleep I got before paleo. I'm just baffled because I feel like it should have gotten better even without all these measures, and to have it be worse even with everything ... well it just doesn't make sense. Everyone else seems to have nothing but great experiences with paleo so I feel like a freak of nature!

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                • Are you eating low carb, high carb, high fat etc.? the first time I did low-carb, I slept really poorly, but this time, I'm sleeping really well. Not sure what the difference is, but I'm sure I'm eating different things (I eat plenty of yogurt, but not enough to go over 50g/day probably).
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                  • Originally posted by KimInGA View Post
                    Do you think it some something specific you were eating that lead to the insomnia? Did you ever pinpoint any certain foods? I ask because I've had some level of insomnia for about 10 years now, but I was doing ok with a benadryl or two (25-50mg) per night. After I went primal last October though, it got worse. Like, walking dead worse. Weeks on end where I never got more than 2-4 hours a night. I went to several different doctors, not wanting to get hooked on ambien (which they all wanted to prescribe), until finally a naturopath put me on magnesium, serenagen and phosphatidylserine. Now I'm taking all 3 of those PLUS benadryl just so I can get 6 hours of sleep for every 8 I lay in bed.

                    Very frustrated that I'm having to take so many pills just to get mediocre sleep. I've tried removing each one independently but slept terribly so it seems that I need them all just to eke out my 6 hours. I've got all the other regular sleep hygiene rules covered (blackout curtains, no blue light, etc.) I'm coming up on a year of eating primal though, and honestly I feel worse than I did before! I also have not been able to lose one single lb (or inch). Has anyone else had bad results like this? Have you figured out how to get past it, or did it just go away eventually?
                    I feel for you. I went through periods when I woke every 2 hours all night and was lucky to get 6 hours.*sigh* I agree about eating a few carbs (my favorite is broccoli or rabe with butter and lemon and pepper) a little before bed being helpful. I also experienced some old familiar anxiety last night and realized my fat intake was too low...Have you tried Valerian root? It smells like old socks so be prepared if you try it...taken about a half hour before bed it is gentle and effective. It doesn't leave you with after effects. Just a thought.

                    Happily I've been sleeping very well on primal. Good luck to you and hopefully with all the good minds here you will figure out what's going on.
                    A Woman's Place Is In The Revolution.

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                    • I've suffered with insomnia for many years. I finally discovered a pill called "knock out" by Schiff. Its Melatonin, Glycine, L-Theanine, Valerian Extract (*natures valium), and GABA. PLUS: Vitamin B6, Calcium and Magnesium in very minute amounts. You take it an hour before you want to go to sleep. It makes me very sleepy! I fall asleep easily, but still wake up several times to go potty or whatever. I don't know exactly how many hours I sleep - probablly a good 8 even with the wake ups. Falling back to sleep is never a problem. You might ditch the pills you have and give this a try. I get them at the grocery in the health food section.

                      As for weight........... calorie restriction is still necessary to lose weight even when you're eating all the right foods. However, not every calorie is the same. Carbs will slow down weight loss in some women - I try to keep mine VERY LOW! Like under 30 grams.
                      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                      2. Eat to heal
                      3. Move to live
                      4. Embrace today
                      5. Live with intention
                      6. Respect my body
                      7. Cultivate joy
                      8. Find my passion
                      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                      • Hi everyone- I have been reading this thread from start to finish and now my account is approved I can say hi! I am just about to turn 40, in the UK and have had a weight problem since I have been 11 years old- and just got fatter and fatter each year. I have tried pretty much every diet going - and can't believe it is really this simple!

                        I started primal/paleo eating a week ago- as did DH. We both have lots to lose (I am 5 3 and started at 230lbs DH is 5 11 and 350 )

                        In just 1 short week I can't believe the tasty food we are eating, my hunger has shrunk, I have lost 7lbs already (DH more) and I feel great

                        I am being fairly "unstrict" about it- ie having dairy in the form of good cheese, cream, butter, greek yogurt, some fruit and nuts, and not being too worried about the odd portion of starchy veg like potatoes or sweet potatoes

                        Working great for me so far- I know some of this is water but I can already feel a difference in my clothes

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                        • Way to go Sarahsparkle!
                          Female 55
                          Starting wt: 198, Goal: 135, Current with PB: 165
                          Started at a size 16 down to loose 10

                          With PB my asthma has improved, low back pain is gone, & I've got more energy

                          My Primal Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60175.html

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                          • Originally posted by Sarahsparkle View Post
                            Hi everyone- I have been reading this thread from start to finish and now my account is approved I can say hi! I am just about to turn 40, in the UK and have had a weight problem since I have been 11 years old- and just got fatter and fatter each year. I have tried pretty much every diet going - and can't believe it is really this simple!

                            I started primal/paleo eating a week ago- as did DH. We both have lots to lose (I am 5 3 and started at 230lbs DH is 5 11 and 350 )

                            In just 1 short week I can't believe the tasty food we are eating, my hunger has shrunk, I have lost 7lbs already (DH more) and I feel great

                            I am being fairly "unstrict" about it- ie having dairy in the form of good cheese, cream, butter, greek yogurt, some fruit and nuts, and not being too worried about the odd portion of starchy veg like potatoes or sweet potatoes

                            Working great for me so far- I know some of this is water but I can already feel a difference in my clothes
                            Great start, and welcome to thread!

                            Sounds like you are working into it nicely! Remember the water weight is the first to go - so even though you've seen 7 pounds go in the first week - that is not typical of the weeks to come. Don't get discouraged when the dropping slows down - just keep going! Also -- be really careful on white potatoes. The dairy is not a problem as long as your system can handle it. Keep it to the healthy dairy items that he mentioned and you're good to go!

                            Have you read the book? If not, I greatly encourage you to do so. There is LOTS of important info in the book that is available on these threads --- but so spread out you'd never find it all. I started out with just finding this website - and then ordered the book when I realized I needed ALL the facts in one place to really do this right.

                            Read up on how carbs will spike your insulin and the not so good results of that. Nuts and fruits are REALLY healthy --- but in moderation - moderation - moderation!!! I am going very low carb (approx. 30 grams) and having good results! I'm currently doing Mark's 21 Day Challenge - and will be reporting weight loss and behavior changes on Oct. 2nd.

                            Welcome to better health - and smaller pants! Good luck to you and your hubsand!
                            tomi
                            1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                            2. Eat to heal
                            3. Move to live
                            4. Embrace today
                            5. Live with intention
                            6. Respect my body
                            7. Cultivate joy
                            8. Find my passion
                            9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                            • Hi
                              I am brand new to the Primal lifestyle. Thanks for starting the She-Grok thread.
                              I was diagnosed with firbromyalgia about 10 years ago. Just when I was in the best shape of my life, the pains started. I refuse to use the pharmaceutical industry to "help" me with my physical pain. I keep moving and just started the primal way of eating on 9/2. I'm very disappointed that I haven't lost weight yet, but am hopeful that once my gut heals a bit and I stop with the sugar, I'll be on my way. One thing at a time.
                              Beth

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                              • Thanks tomi - I signed up and got all the ebooks and have also read Dr John Briffa and Gary Taubes

                                If I just carry on losing 1-2 lbs a week and it is this painless then I am good with that

                                So far I have just had a couple of new potatoes in a nicoise salad- haven't really missed them. We made a great cauliflower cheese puree last night- looked a bit like baby food but tasted delicious!

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