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    I've had intense neck and shoulder pain and headaches for years. It has always felt like the pain originated in the neck and then radiated out to the head and shoulders. Doctors have been less than helpful over the years - for various reasons I guess. One reason is that I have a 40 degree curve in my lower spine so they jump to the conclusion the pain is related to that and say there's nothing that can be done about it.

    Then about a year ago a doctor ordered xrays of my back and neck - it was all very strange because she looked at my xrays for a while muttering "hmmm, interesting" but never measured the cobb angle. She handed the xrays back to me and said something (I thought) about a lack of lumbar curve (I may have misunderstood) but said everything was fine and no action needed. Today I stumbled across the xrays again whilst cleaning up and noticed something very odd about the xrays of my neck. My neck in the xrays is so straight (from both left and right side) that you can pretty much run a ruler straight up through the middle of all the vertebrae.

    I got online and looked up a neutral neck position and looked into straight neck and it turns out this is called "military neck" and is a form of cervical kyphosis - if the information is accurate. I'm sitting here confused wondering why the doctor didn't think it might be contributing to my neck pain. Now I'm wondering if I should pursue "correction" of this condition. And I'm wondering firstly if chiropractors are/can be safe in treating this sort of condition? And secondly, has anyone else had this condition, had it treated and experienced pain relief?

  • #2
    A really good chiro is safe. Emphasis on the "good". They will assess you and determine what needs to be adjusted. Ask people in your area who they recommend.

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    • #3
      I would be very careful before seeing a chiropractor. This column I've found useful. Which was the subject of legal action which was subsequently dropped.
      Beware the spinal trap | Comment is free | The Guardian

      While the author says "To be fair, conventional approaches, such as physiotherapy, also struggle to treat back problems with any consistency.". It's the conclusion, which matches what I've heard elsewhere that says a lot for me "if spinal manipulation were a drug with such serious adverse effects and so little demonstrable benefit, then it would almost certainly have been taken off the market"

      So I'd carefully consider all options.

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      • #4
        maybe try physio, massage or acupuncture first and see if it helps. i've been getting my spine adjusted now for about 8 or 9 years, and it's helped me. but everyone is different.

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        • #5
          One of my good friends had serious back and hip pain from a hip problem a few years ago. She started seeing a chiropractor a while back and is seeing marked improvement, figuring she won't need to go for more than a few more times. But everyone one, patient or provider, is different.

          I would ask around a lot, trying to find someone who is really good. I would think needing to see a chiropractor less and less frequently would be the ultimate goal, but I don't have pain either.
          Durp.

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          • #6
            hell yes. my chiropractor is one of the best things that has ever happened to me. i have to echo the emphasis on finding the right chiropractor. ignore the bone crunchers and find a doctor of chiropractics. not only will s/he be able to help you and treat your pain, but likely help in all areas of your wellness. my chiro does alignment with a tool called an applicator (i think?) which allows for a great deal of force or pressure, but only feels like a light tap (it's really kind of amazing), and also does massage, x-rays, orders tests, some sort of electro-therapy thing, and is 100% in line with me when it comes to natural treatments over drugs. if my insurance company would let me name him as my PCP i would.
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60178.html

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            • #7
              I'd try acupuncture first, then get a really good recommendation for a chiropractor if needed.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by primalrob View Post
                hell yes. my chiropractor is one of the best things that has ever happened to me. i have to echo the emphasis on finding the right chiropractor. ignore the bone crunchers and find a doctor of chiropractics. not only will s/he be able to help you and treat your pain, but likely help in all areas of your wellness. my chiro does alignment with a tool called an applicator (i think?) which allows for a great deal of force or pressure, but only feels like a light tap (it's really kind of amazing) would.
                yes this is me and chiro too. I love him, he treats my entire family when needed, and generally has us sorted in anything from 1-4 sessions. He is very good, you need to find one with a great rep.

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                • #9
                  Hun, you should have been seeing a chiropractor YEARS ago. There is no reason in this day and age to be walking around like that. Unfortunately, the longer a patient has been misaligned, the longer it can take to rectify the situation because your body has developed all sorts of odd compensations to cope and those must come undone as well.

                  What you describe with your lumbar spine being straight and then your cervical spine following suit is exactly what happened to me. I know first-hand the jaw drop you likely experienced when you saw your neck films! Freaky, huh?

                  I am doing an awesome form of chiropractic called Atlas Orthogonal, and it is excellent for chronic headaches. In fact, my chiropractor changed her whole course in life and decided to go to chiropractic school and learn AO after her chronic headaches were cured. I think she was an engineer or something like that before.

                  Look at this video and see what you think. There is no cracking involved. (And, P.S., they got my curves -- both of them! -- back. Thrilling.)

                  http://www.atlasorthogonality.com/Pa...e/aboutAO.html
                  "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                  • #10
                    Good Chiropractors are amazing- I've seen them fix so many people. I know a few people who are walking today only because of them(yes, they saw conventional doctors first).
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                    • #11
                      I'd go to one you got a rec from. I've heard all sorts of bull crap from some, but it doesn't change the fact that one fixed me really easily (at least in the short term) and in a way that my GP wouldn't have thought to do when I had a lower back injury from surfing that was absolutely crippling. A good pal of mine has a way she evaluates chiros, naturopaths and other non-standard health care providers: she reads the list of care approaches on their web pages and crosses them off her options if they offer anything that she thinks is proven BS. (She chose her Seattle naturopath based on the fact that this particular one specifically did not offer homeopathy.) Sounds like a good approach to me - avoid the ones that claim they can cure your ... I dunno, toe fungus, and give the seemingly legit ones a shot. The other thing I would say I like about the chiro I go to whenever my lower back does its bad thing is that she is very vehement about being a one-off fix--that is, she doesn't think constant adjustment is a prerequisite for good health - rather, it's a fix for something that's wrong, and then you should be on your own to keep yourself healthy. That translates to her saying "I only ever want to see you 3 adjustment appointments at a time - if that." So I see her once at a time, generally; she squashes my lower back and pelvis back to where they should be; she tells me to get the hell out and live my life, and that's it. Being not asked, and even TOLD, to not keep coming in and giving her money is reassuring in my book that she's not going to try and scam anyone.

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                      • #12
                        Yes. Find a reputable chiro. Mine is wonderful and he turned me on to Paleo.
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                        • #13
                          100% on what primalrob said (and it's called an "actuator"). My chiro is the bomb. He treats me and my boyfriend and has a background in sports therapy, so he doesn't just go for the cracks and that's that. He talks to us about how to use our muscles to support the adjustments and sets challenges for us to get out of bad postural habits (like sleeping on our stomachs).
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                            ...and sets challenges for us to get out of bad postural habits (like sleeping on our stomachs).
                            Did he give you any advice on how to accomplish this? Because I have been having real trouble trying to change my sleeping posture. I know sleeping on my side and stomach is terrible for my back, and I always wake up feeling groggy and achy when I sleep that way, but it is SO hard to fall asleep on my back even if I'm very comfortable. Maybe I should try taking melatonin just before bed for a while to see if I can fall asleep on my back that way...

                            Any advice from anyone who's managed to change sleep positions would be appreciated!
                            Today I will: Eat food, not poison. Plan for success, not settle for failure. Live my real life, not a virtual one. Move and grow, not sit and die.

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                            • #15
                              I have worked in the medical community for over 15 years, mainly orthopedics. Of course MD's do not like chiropractors, and I avoided ever seeing a chiropractor for that reason. I had a back injury last year that would not resolve after several visits with an orthopedic physician. I finally tried a chiropractor, and my pain has almost completely gone. I can't say it was due to the chiropractic spine manipulation done in the office, but I do think his postural recommendations and stretches helped a great deal. So yes, there are good ones out there. Get recommendations from people you trust before going to a doctor that you don't know.

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