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    I just realized as I'm sitting in a class and talking about credible sources in the media, that I don't trust most doctors at all. I feel like almost everything doctors say is irrelevant to those of us who are primal. Anyone else have such a negative view of the medical field?

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    I say it depends on the doctor and the circumstance. Bottom line- be educated about your health.
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    • #3
      I didn't trust them that much before primal. I certainly liked some doctors, like my primary care physician & my former psychologist (who passed away), but I never trusted the answers they gave me. I've never trusted psychotropic drugs as the only way to "manage" depression & anxiety and have fought with doctors many times on how they can know that these aren't damaging.

      Of course, now it's much worse...
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      • #4
        My partner's niece and her husband are both medics - she is a GP, he is in gerontology. They HATE that I have taken charge of my own health, check my blood pressure, stopped steroids etc. She calls me a nightmare - while saying how well my partner and I look, how much weight we have lost etc.

        They qualified not so long ago - and have learned, it seems, very little about how food affects health, allergies, intolerances etc.

        My greatest intolerance now is to the medical profession....

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        • #5
          I work in a hospital. It's a money-based business. There are well-intentioned individuals in the system, but their hands are largely tied - much like the role teachers fill in meeting test quotas instead of ensuring a rounded education - and they are basically held at gunpoint and forced to prescribe pills. Doctors start out as amazing people, but the system warps them into its image. I feel sorry for doctors.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
            I work in a hospital. It's a money-based business. There are well-intentioned individuals in the system, but their hands are largely tied - much like the role teachers fill in meeting test quotas instead of ensuring a rounded education - and they are basically held at gunpoint and forced to prescribe pills. Doctors start out as amazing people, but the system warps them into its image. I feel sorry for doctors.
            This is a good point, but more and more I've come to distrust the people who enter the medical system from the get-go. As a science major in college, almost all of my classes had a good chunk of premeds in them. By far, the average attitude about them was that they wanted to deal with new topics and challenges by oversimplifying and parsing down the information so that they could throw rote-memorization at the problem. This way of thinking does help them absorb a large amount of information for the MCATS, but it also starts a pattern of poor understanding of the scientific process, lack of critical thinking, and tendency to believe any information handed to them from an official source if its presented in a simplified, abbreviated way.

            And more and more, these "official sources" are pharmaceutical reps.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
              I work in a hospital. It's a money-based business. There are well-intentioned individuals in the system, but their hands are largely tied - much like the role teachers fill in meeting test quotas instead of ensuring a rounded education - and they are basically held at gunpoint and forced to prescribe pills. Doctors start out as amazing people, but the system warps them into its image. I feel sorry for doctors.
              If it truly was a money-based business, meaning they worried about the money coming in from the consumers and not from big pharma, big insurance, and most especially big government, they would definitely do a much better job at promoting and providing superb health care. Otherwise, they'd go out of business.
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              • #8
                No...I like my GP and OB docs...both support primal lifestyles.

                I like and respect doctors for the same reasons I like and respect our dogs' vets- they're pretty good at fixing things when they break, but not so good at a bunch of other stuff that we lump into their responsibilities (and are tangentially related, I suppose), like nutrition.
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                • #9
                  I haven't trusted them in years. They are educated and indoctrinated into the CW of today - which is all effed-up and upside-down. They go "by the book" - and today's "book" is all wrong. So no, I don't trust them. I've seen first-hand myself and second-hand through close friends the harm they can do.
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                  • #10
                    I'm going to be the rebel here and say that I absolutely adore my doctors. My GP is fully on board with the PB and is even trying to talk my Dad (also her patient) into it.

                    I think there is a lot of gratuitous doctor bashing that goes on on this site. Yes, there are some CW filled idiots. So, vote with your feet and your dollars and go find a doctor who isn't. They do exist.

                    We are responsible to be partners in our own health. Seeking out the right doctor, not just a blanket mistrust of all doctors, is the answer.

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                    • #11
                      I have had some very bad experiences with doctors in the last 2 years. Ion longer see one unless I think it's a serious matter. Anything else I use Chinese medicine, chiro or naturopath.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                        We are responsible to be partners in our own health. Seeking out the right doctor, not just a blanket mistrust of all doctors, is the answer.
                        I couldn't agree with you more. I think that in a culture that holds doctors up as godlike, it then becomes too easy to dismiss them altogether when we see they aren't quite what we want them to be.

                        I think we all need to take charge of our health - medical care is just part of the puzzle. But if I were a doctor, I'd probably discourage most of my patients from becoming more "informed." I don't know what I'd do if I were a doctor today and had half my patients coming in with all sorts of crap ideas from WebMD and the Dr. Oz show.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                          We are responsible to be partners in our own health.
                          This is so true. At one time or another, most of us will find that we need a doctor. We will serve ourselves well by having already found a good one with whom we have built a mutually respectful working relationship.

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                          • #14
                            I won't go to a doctor unless I cause a physical malady, IE break a bone, serious laceration which is life threatening, or I'm out of options. I prefer to prevent the rest of human ailments, which I consider to be chemical maladies which the body must work out itself if possible.

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                            • #15
                              I read somewhere that the average MD has an IQ of 114. Okay, above the population average, but hardly in zone to play god (little "g" or capital "G") Unfortunately, many do.

                              That said, I have two doctors, an MD and a DO for alternative stuff, but I take what they both say with a heavy dose of salt and my own research.
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