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    For most of the 6-ish months I have been doing paleo, I've felt great. All my arthritis symptoms gone. No asthma. Body reshaping, although I have only dropped a few pounds. I have felt fantastic and full of energy.
    Then, my last period. I always get constipated at that time, so nothing unusual. But when my period was over I still couldn't poop. It took a couple days of pushing water, fruit and Vit C every couple hours to have a poop.
    Now, this month. Last day of period, Friday. By Sunday I had not pooped since the day before my period. Now one thing I will say about what my lifestyle has done for my periods....they are shorter (5 days instead of 6-8) but more intense. I also don't have the hormonal swings so severely- and that includes almost none of the hot flashes and sleeplessness I was having with my periods.
    Saturday night I lay in bed in pain from constipation. It was radiating up my side so much I wondered if I was having heart issues! Sunday, with our chili dinner, I actually had pinto beans, something I have not eaten or wanted for months. I did poop some this morning, but still feel that hard lump in my intestines. I've been eating fruit and carrots, pushing the Vit C again, and had another bunch of beans with lunch. I'll be keeping them out again now, but may consider a few servings of black beans only during my periods, to keep things moving.
    In addition, I'm having arthritis pain in my hand, a sore throat, clogged ear, and feel yeasty. And gained three pounds over the weekend.
    I know for sure some things I have been doing wrong.
    Too much animal fat. I'm going to go back to tossing the fat from meat I cook and cook with olive oil. As tasty as schmaltz and lard are, I really think they are the cause of the "Oooh, my heart" feeling I have on and off.
    Overall I KNOW I need a higher % of veg in my diet.
    Too much sugar. I know that contributes to several of my issues. Going to bake NOTHING for a few weeks.
    Letting too many grains creep back in. I've stayed gluten free but am eating too much rice/rice flour baked goods/ corn chips. I'm going to go back to limiting myself to a little rice maybe twice a week.

    My focus is going to be to make the changes that eliminate my pain and discomfort, and trust that in the process those pounds will come back off. Here's hoping I'm back to good in a couple days!
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  • #2
    i only poop twice a week or so. i think its normal to have less poop since you are eaitng less crap
    Primal Chaos
    37yo 6'5"
    6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
    current 338lbs 49" waist
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    • #3
      I think yes, if there isn't discomfort, but I'm in pain. And the first 4-5 months of primal/ paleo I have pooped daily.
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      • #4
        my bad i missed the part about you being in pain. thought you meant pain from your TOM. are you taking any magnesium supplements?
        Primal Chaos
        37yo 6'5"
        6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
        current 338lbs 49" waist
        goal 240lbs 35" waist

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        • #5
          No, but I think I'll try that.
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          • #6
            Gut Sense: Restoring Natural Bowel Movements

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gojirama View Post
              I know for sure some things I have been doing wrong.
              Too much animal fat. I'm going to go back to tossing the fat from meat I cook and cook with olive oil. As tasty as schmaltz and lard are, I really think they are the cause of the "Oooh, my heart" feeling I have on and off.
              Overall I KNOW I need a higher % of veg in my diet.
              Too much sugar. I know that contributes to several of my issues. Going to bake NOTHING for a few weeks.
              Letting too many grains creep back in. I've stayed gluten free but am eating too much rice/rice flour baked goods/ corn chips. I'm going to go back to limiting myself to a little rice maybe twice a week.
              To be frank, I'm really doubting the animal fat is an issue. It's pretty non-inflammatory unlike some of the other things you have listed there. Still, I don't think there's a big deal in eliminating everything you suspect for awhile. You could always try reintroducing the animal fat without all the other junk and see how you feel.

              But, yeah, if you're regularly eating gluten-free treats and sugar, I'm not surprised you don't feel good. Sugar tends to give me that heart feeling. Corn messes with me, too. Rice seems ok every so often but I avoid corn as much as I can. I know I probably get some in additives when I eat out but my body seems to handle that level of exposure. A serving of chips and my hands would swell up. That might be another candidate for an isolated re-introduction. That way you can gauge the risks of eating it in the future.

              I think it's good for us to know what foods we tolerate as individuals. Primal and Paleo are good starting points for learning what foods are most likely to be problems and why. However, in real life most of us are going to deviate from time to time. It's good for us to know the consequences for our bodies. They vary. I was listening to Robb Wolf's podcast the other day and he was talking about this sort of thing. He knows through experience that he has a sudden and very severe reaction to gluten. It makes him miserable. We see people here that can chow a piece of pizza now and then and be fine. He can eat corn a few times a week and be just fine. Me, not so much. Dairy is something that doesn't seem to affect me at all. He knows from experimenting that it makes him snuffly and can even make him break out. He still chooses to eat it sometimes. If it's really tasty and he wants it, the consequence of having a bit of a stuffy nose can be an acceptable trade off. The consequence of joint pain, however, may not be worth it to you. It's good to know exactly which foods cause it.

              As for the pooping, I'm lucky not to have had that issue but I do generally eat a fair amount of veg. Always have. I think that helps. Natural Calm (magnesium) also seems to get people trotting, too.

              Good luck!
              Last edited by DaisyEater; 09-19-2011, 01:48 PM.

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              • #8
                I was definitely going to suggest trying to supplement magnesium if you're not already. It's supposed to help regulate menstrual issues too (I'm not female, just a disclaimer. ). But DaisyEater beat me to it.
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                • #9
                  It may be that the changes are due to age... how old are you?

                  I know that I have the same constipation issue during the PMS stage. I take magnesium supps in the a.m. and p.m. for about 1-1/2 to 2 weeks before my period, depending on how I'm doing. If memory serves, the constipation can be due to changes in progesterone during that time of the month.

                  Anywho... also agree that limiting all kinds of things and then reintroducing will tell you a lot about what foods/products are issues for YOU.
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                  • #10
                    I just turned 39 this month.
                    I am very much adding the magnesium.
                    Something that occurred to me- if I feel icky after eating animal fat, it may be not due to FAT but that we can so rarely afford properly raised meat. All the impurities are in the fat.
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                    • #11
                      I was going to post the link to Gutsense.org as well. I don't think it's the fat. I think you may be eating too much fruit/vegs and cheating with the grains. Go read Gutsense and see if anything there rings a bell.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gojirama View Post
                        I know for sure some things I have been doing wrong.

                        Too much animal fat. I'm going to go back to tossing the fat from meat I cook and cook with olive oil. As tasty as schmaltz and lard are, I really think they are the cause of the "Oooh, my heart" feeling I have on and off.

                        Overall I KNOW I need a higher % of veg in my diet.

                        Too much sugar. I know that contributes to several of my issues. Going to bake NOTHING for a few weeks.

                        Letting too many grains creep back in. I've stayed gluten free but am eating too much rice/rice flour baked goods/ corn chips. I'm going to go back to limiting myself to a little rice maybe twice a week.
                        I totally agree about the fat. I think we have gone from a fat-phobic extreme to a fat guzzling extreme. Primal needs to find something sensible in between.

                        Definitely, more veggies are going to help. I wish people would remember that the base of the PB pyramid is not meat it is veggies and some fruit.

                        Sugar does nothing for you that is good.

                        I think the whole Paleo/Primal community seems to be letting too many grains sneak back in, not just you. Call me a purist but, we are either eating this way or we are just doing a somewhat less sad version of the SAD.

                        I wish you well. Hang in there.

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                        • #13
                          veggies, making sure you are getting enough water (not just tea. i know i'm bad at this! i drink A LOT of tea, and not a lot of water. bad me!), and also stress.

                          i find that when i feel stress, it goes right to my gut -- gas and bloating, constipation, you name it. seriously, when i travel, the stress usually causes constipation. i would arrive, and for 3 days be in agony. try that on a three-day holiday! horrid. so, i started my mantras "it is ok to poop on the plane" being one of them. seriously, what is wrong with me? anyway. . . LOL

                          bottom line is, it might be stress-related, and if it *is* then you'll need to find ways to reduce your stress. i'm trying to figure that out too.

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                          • #14
                            I do feeel much better today. You're all right about needing to not let those grains sneak back in...just because I don't feel sick that day or the next doesn't mean it won't bite me in the ass down the line.
                            Since I do much better with higher carbs, especially at my TOM, I need to remember to keep away from the rice and corn and sugar and eat some of the lovely stone fruits and apples we have here.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gojirama View Post
                              I do feeel much better today. You're all right about needing to not let those grains sneak back in...just because I don't feel sick that day or the next doesn't mean it won't bite me in the ass down the line.
                              Since I do much better with higher carbs, especially at my TOM, I need to remember to keep away from the rice and corn and sugar and eat some of the lovely stone fruits and apples we have here.
                              Also, if you do better with higher carbs (I do too)-- maybe sweet potatoes? Not everybody can handle them, but for me they work great and keep me satiated.

                              And yeah... lots of veggies, but be sure to add SOME fat to them (you don't need tons), because otherwise you don't get the nutrients from them as they are fat-soluble. A drizzle of an olive or avocado oil with a bit of vinegar can be great on them.

                              But seriously... magnesium. The bomb!
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