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    1. how much does dog food cost per month, approximately

    2. what do you do with your dog when you are at work?

    3. where do dogs go to the bathroom, and can they be trained to NOT take dumps all over the house?

    4. do all dogs play frisbee and tennis ball throw?

    thanks thanks dog owners

    because I am very close to getting one but want some advice from dog people

  • #2
    1. cost of food depends a lot on the size of the dog and its activity level. My 10 pound mini poodle costs less than $20 a month to feed. It would be far less, but she is on a prescription diet due to digestive issues.

    2. I put up a gate that keeps her in the kitchen area for the day. Even if she has an accident (hasn't happened in years), it will be on the tile floor and easy to clean. I also keep water down for her.

    3. Dogs can and should be trained to do their business outside only. Check out books on house training. The training takes effort, but it's well worth it.

    4. No. That depends on the breed, though about any dog likes some form of play with the person it owns. (They end up owning you as much as you own them...trust me on that. lol)
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    • #3
      I spend about $25 I think on dog food from costco and it usually lasts 2 months. I have a wild pit bull, 2.5 years old, needs lots of exercise and would eat nonstop if I let her. I keep her in her crate while we're gone, because I don't trust her not to get into everything since she has so much energy. I do take her on a good 45-60 minute walk every morning, so that she's tired enough to nap during the day. Dogs can always be trained not to go all over the house, but it's more about keeping them on a good schedule where you take them out consistently enough that they have the opportunity to poo outside. Don't use puppy pads as back ups because it is extremely hard to get them to stop going where the pads have been. Not all dogs like to play fetch, but you are highly likely to get one that does if you go with a retriever. there are ways to train them to fetch though, but I've never had to train it into a dog

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      • #4
        hopefully this will help

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        • #5
          I have 3 dogs (2 malamutes and a husky/wolf). I spend about $80-100/mo to feed them. Vet costs are huge if you don't keep your dog out of trouble and a lot of that depends on the breed. Definitely look into what fits your lifestyle and talk to the pound/pet store and a vet (yes find one first) to get an idea of expenses and breed for you. A great dog in the wrong atmosphere = misery for both owner and dog (but the dog always gets blamed). Best of luck!

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          • #6
            We feed our dogs a high quality/protein diet so it runs us about $60-75 per month.

            I work from home so they're rarely alone in the house for more than a couple of hours at a time. I try to walk them before leaving and take them out immediately when I return. We have cattle dogs, though, and they can't be left alone for too long, but not because they'll have accidents, but because they get destructive without plenty of exercise and mental stimulation. They get about an hour walk in the morning, an hour in the evening and in the middle of the day I take them out and throw balls. I throw them in the house too, but we have a long hallway and tile floor throughout the whole downstairs.

            Depends on the dog. Some breeds more than others. The one will chase just about anything you throw but especially loves sticks, although she won't bring them back. The other will play fetch with a ball and actually bring it back. I'm working on getting him to chase other things and am going to try to do some agility training also, as he needs lots of stimulation, but he's about 10 months old and doesn't have the attention span at the moment. We've also only had him for a few weeks so need to work with him on other things first.

            My advice would be to research breeds of dogs that aren't too high energy but can go when you want them to. Then find a rescue agency and look for a dog around 1-2 years old. They're still quite young and often already housebroken, will walk on a lead, etc . . . . Another advantage to a rescue org is that they'll match the personality of the dog with the personality of the person. And many times the dogs have been surrendered for no reason other than their owners were moving, divorcing, couldn't afford them and so on.
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            • #7
              You might want to hit a few sites like this Animal Planet :: Guides :: Dog Breed Selector as well, to get an idea of what kind of dog you want.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by dado View Post
                1. how much does dog food cost per month, approximately

                2. what do you do with your dog when you are at work?

                3. where do dogs go to the bathroom, and can they be trained to NOT take dumps all over the house?

                4. do all dogs play frisbee and tennis ball throw?

                thanks thanks dog owners

                because I am very close to getting one but want some advice from dog people
                Question #1 - 42. You lack enough parameters for a decent answer. EG: I spend $53+- on a 30# bag of dog kibble, then buy canned food, as well as raw meats/bones. Value/cost would be dictated by how long it takes to go through all that, it also comes down to dog size. A 200 pound mastiff will eat a little more than a 20 pound dachsund.

                #2 - I throw things at her while she sleeps. I work from home, because that's more primal. When I worked in the office, I had a dog walker.

                #3 - It's called housetraining. My dog shits where my neighbor does, in the yard.

                #4 - Yes, unless they do not. I've never seen a dog throw a tennis ball very well though.

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                • #9
                  1. how much does dog food cost per month, approximately

                  Dog food runs anywhere from $30-45/mo for each of my dogs. I own two Belgians and a Dutch shepherd, they are high energy, high drive performance breeds, and I compete with them so I need them to be on a better than average diet. Surprisingly enough, Costco carries some good dog foods that are very reasonably priced.

                  2. what do you do with your dog when you are at work?

                  My older two dogs are loose in the back of my house, which is about 1/4 of the house. The puppy is in a dog crate. They all get exercised before work, and have at least an hour outside to romp in the yard. I have 1/2 acre fenced for them to run in, the fence is 7' high (they will get over anything lower). I try to get home at least once through the day to let the puppy out for a stretch and a pee. I am home immediately after work to let the puppy out, and let all three dogs have a romp and a stretch and play time. Depending on the evening, I may head out to the horses or not, at which time I need to have a tired puppy who will be willing to sleep in her crate again. If I do go riding, I know the puppy will need at least 2 to 3 hours of exercise and play time before bed.

                  3. where do dogs go to the bathroom, and can they be trained to NOT take dumps all over the house?


                  Dogs absolutely should be house trained. My dogs are ALL house trained. They do not go indoors, and if they do, they are crated until they are re-house trained. It takes time, patience and persistence, but dogs easily will learn that eliminating indoors is not acceptable, and they can and will control themselves until they can be outside. The general rule of thumb is one hour per each month of life, so a 4 month old puppy can be expected to wait 4 hours maximum before needing to go out to eliminate. Your day must be planned accordingly, if you're going to have any kind of success with this.

                  Having said that, one of my older dogs was not reliably house trained as a young dog, and she is not reliable. She will not randomly eliminate in the house, but if she needs to go, she will. I have to make sure she goes out first thing in the morning, as well as out for at least 20 minutes after each meal, otherwise she will make a mess in the house at some point through the day. With management, she never makes a mess in the house.

                  4. do all dogs play frisbee and tennis ball throw?


                  No. This is something that they must be taught. Some dogs come by it more naturally than others, some will never play ball or frisbee. I have one of each, and one in between. The dog that doesn't play ball or chase frisbee is just as much fun and just as playful as the other two, she just doesn't want to carry things in her mouth. She will carry a dumb bell for formal obedience competitions, but she doesn't like it. She does it because I ask her to.

                  If you are looking and getting a dog for the first time, I'd suggest spending some time volunteering at the local humane society or a vet clinic, so you know what you're getting into. They are always grateful for the help, and you'll get a better understanding of what its like, and how to get along with a dog. Other things you need to consider are the cost of vet bills, including shots and spay/neuter in the first year, as well as puppy classes. If this is your first time owning a dog, I highly, highly recommend taking some kind of family dog classes with a good trainer.

                  Good luck! Research and learn all you can ahead of time, and you'll work your way through it all. I personally couldn't imagine my life without dogs, and enjoy every minute with them.
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                  • #10
                    I was playing around with the video on my phone and Harvey (the younger one) decided he wanted to play. He had just come in from "herding" a stability ball around the yard for about 20 minutes and was still wound up. So yeah, research before you adopt.

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                    • #11
                      I don't have dogs right now but I have in the past. I do have cats and some experiences relate.

                      As you can see, there is a wide range people are stating for food costs. Part of that is the size of the animal and part is the quality of the diet. The more meat and canned food you give them, the more you pay. That is also closer to their ancestral diet. Some people go full on raw with their animals. It's expensive and time consuming but good for them. Kibble is generally a lower quality meal. Still, it varies widely. You can get grain-free kibble but it's still higher in carbs than a dog would normally have in a natural state, but it is better than many of the other kibble options out there. People have to find the right balance for their pet and their budget. Ultimately, though, a better diet generally means a happier, healthier pet and lower vet bills.

                      Vet bills are a serious consideration, too. Even a younger animal may hit you with hundreds or even thousands at the vet. We all have our threshold of what we are willing and able to pay for a pet's medical care. If your budget doesn't allow you to shell out at least a few hundred as an emergency expense now and then, you may find yourself having to make a very sad decision. The last major vet bill I had was for a kitty of mine that died. Just the testing to find out that his death from liver cancer was imminent, euthanasia (he had maybe a day to live and was in pain), and cremation was well over $1000. That's with no treatment besides pain medication. That was not the largest bill I had paid for him during his lifetime.

                      As for the other questions, I don't need to reiterate the excellent advice you've received. I do want to highlight a common theme, though. Dogs take time and effort. They are pretty high maintenance. They need firm, consistent training. They need lots of your attention and affection. They need regular exercise that they may not be able to get without your help. I'm saying all this because this is the reason I don't have a dog right now despite the fact that I love them. My life is not conducive to making a dog happy. There are definitely times I miss having a dog but a couple happy cats make up for it most of the time.

                      I'm not saying you shouldn't get a dog. I'm just encouraging you to think very carefully about the way it will change your daily life before you commit to take care of an animal that will likely be with you over a decade. Though if you're worried about training, you could always adopt a well-trained adult dog. Our shelters are full of them. The people at the shelter or rescue can usually tell you if they like playing fetch, if they're high energy, mellow, etc.

                      In relation to this, the question I would like to ask the dog owners here is on average, how many hours a day go into your dog?

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                      • #12
                        I have an oversized Jack Russel. I trained him to poop on command in front of foreclosed houses, so I don't have to pick it up.

                        If your dog does something you disapprove of, quickly pinch its neck while saying "psst" in an effeminate latino accent. I learned it from the dog whisperer.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DaisyEater View Post
                          As for the other questions, I don't need to reiterate the excellent advice you've received. I do want to highlight a common theme, though. Dogs take time and effort. They are pretty high maintenance. They need firm, consistent training. They need lots of your attention and affection. They need regular exercise that they may not be able to get without your help. I'm saying all this because this is the reason I don't have a dog right now despite the fact that I love them. My life is not conducive to making a dog happy. There are definitely times I miss having a dog but a couple happy cats make up for it most of the time.

                          I'm not saying you shouldn't get a dog. I'm just encouraging you to think very carefully about the way it will change your daily life before you commit to take care of an animal that will likely be with you over a decade. Though if you're worried about training, you could always adopt a well-trained adult dog. Our shelters are full of them. The people at the shelter or rescue can usually tell you if they like playing fetch, if they're high energy, mellow, etc.
                          THIS! Once I became a single mom, I had to give my beloved rottweiler away. She was a very miserable dog being left in the house alone 10 hours a day! Dogs need attention and a lot of walking (playing in the yard doesn't count unless you have a GIGANTIC yard) to be healthy and happy.

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                          • #14
                            1. how much does dog food cost per month, approximately

                            I don't know, I've never broken it out because I don't have to worry about it.

                            2. what do you do with your dog when you are at work?

                            My dog gets to come to work with me.

                            3. where do dogs go to the bathroom, and can they be trained to NOT take dumps all over the house?

                            Of course they get trained as puppies - look up "crate training" for the most effective potty training method. My dog know not to go anywhere indoors - my house, my neighbor's house, friends' homes, offices, etc. He goes in the front or back yard. If you don't have a yard, be prepared to walk the dog and take it out for potty breaks at least four times a day, every day, rain or shine, more times when they are puppies or when they are sick.

                            4. do all dogs play frisbee and tennis ball throw?

                            God no! My dachshund does not see the point of all this ball chasing and will only fetch anything if there is an edible reward obviously waiting for him. Dogs are individuals too. Generally, though, a retrieving-type dog will run you into the ground playing fetch.

                            Don't forget to budget in health insurance and/or vet bills (including emergency clinic bills for when shit happens on the weekend), pet-sitting or boarding when you are away, toys, beds, blankets, shampoos, crate, travel kennel, nail clippers and other grooming essentials, Halloween costumes, travel bowls, water Gulpy, collars, leashes, licensing, baby wipes, doggy bath tub (optional - I got a baby tub from IKEA for $6), obedience classes, carpet shampoo and mini wet-vac (for accidents and puke, and there WILL be accidents - even if it's only when they are sick), doggy door installation, grass seed for dead grass spots, fencing for your yard, etc...

                            Did I scare you away yet? Also, if you work all day, you can't expect your pup to be well-behaved when you get home after 9-10 hours. If you have time for a dog, and can afford a dog, and can dedicate time to training and exercising and loving your dog, then by all means get a dog. They are heaven's gifts of joy and love to mankind.
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                            • #15
                              1. how much does dog food cost per month, approximately
                              My dog costs me about $30-$40/month for food. That's a pound of raw meat a day (usually chicken with some beef offal thrown in from time to time). This seems to keep him a lean, energetic and muscular 60-65 lbs. I get the chicken at Costco, in freezer packs if I am being lazy, or I butcher whole roaster chickens for him when I'm not. The whole chickens are better because he gets the giblets too, which are like doggy multivitamins.

                              2. what do you do with your dog when you are at work?

                              Leave him in the house (it's way too hot here to leave him in the yard all day, and he would bark and annoy the neighbors anyway). He has a cast-iron bladder and has gone 16+ hours without making a mess before (and he wasn't even whining or straining at that point) so I don't worry about it much. Some dogs will not have anywhere near that level of bladder control, especially smaller breeds.

                              3. where do dogs go to the bathroom, and can they be trained to NOT take dumps all over the house?

                              They go in the yard, of course. Do you think millions of dog owners all over the country are cleaning poop out of their carpets every day? Yes, any dog can be house trained. The amount of effort involved varies from breed to breed and among individual dogs. Some basically train themselves, some will take months to train even if you are very diligent. Once again, my dog proved himself exemplary and took about 3 days to toilet train. I love my dog.

                              There are all kinds of books and online tutorials that will outline step-by-step how to house train, leash train, etc. Dogs for Dummies is actually a pretty good resource.

                              4. do all dogs play frisbee and tennis ball throw?

                              No. Mine will run after balls and stuff if they are rolling on the ground, but he will completely ignore any thrown object that is not edible (if it is edible he will definitely catch it). If you want a guaranteed fetcher/frisbee chaser, try a Labrador or a Golden Retriever--but be prepared for the other consequences of that decision, like being enthusiastically tackled by an 80-lb animal every time you open your door, and having slobber stains on everything you own.

                              My dog prefers "chase" to "fetch" by a long shot.

                              I would also urge you to consider very carefully and make sure you don't mind a significant expense in both time and money, and serious inconvenience when making travel plans, or even being away from home for one night. You can't just leave for a couple of days like you can with a cat. It's not a decision to make lightly, but if you make it carefully it's totally worthwhile. Dogs rock.
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