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  • i was in church today, and it was wild

    people in sweatpants, jeans. weak parents that can't keep their spoiled kids quiet. adults talking over the father, mid service. the church has no backbone, it's a weak religion. and the flock it preaches to is mostly garbage. i was disgusted.

    people in shit-poor, war-torn bosnia look and behave better on a sunday than these overfed baboons.

    man, i just had to share this. it was disappointing.

    the only people that were dressed decently were the older couples, and me and my fiance.

    very few people sing along with the hymns. they don't know how to celebrate the spirit. but they recite those chants like robots.

    no life, no nothing.

    i sang along, loudly, and i loved it.
    Last edited by dado; 09-18-2011, 10:17 AM.

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    well its gods job to judge, not yours
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mike Gager View Post
      well its gods job to judge, not yours
      that's nonsense.

      when you walk into a church in jeans or sweatpants, you spit on the church. there is no respect there.

      jesus never said "don't judge"; otherwise, how would he be able to say "don't throw gems in front of swine"? this is a judgement.

      judging is necessary to distinguish between the good things and the evil, and rolling out of bed and walking into church in your underwear and talking during the service is evil.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mike Gager View Post
        well its gods job to judge, not yours
        The church I go to(well went to ) has a "come as you are philosphy". God does not care about the clothes you wear. God loves all. The rich, the poor, the wretched, the tired, the unfeeling. You have to open your own eyes to God's love. Maybe you need to re-evaluate your thoughts on why you go to church and worship. God will not love you more if you look "proper".
        Georgette

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        • #5
          Originally posted by geostump View Post
          The church I go to(well went to ) has a "come as you are philosphy". God does not care about the clothes you wear. God loves all. The rich, the poor, the wretched, the tired, the unfeeling. You have to open your own eyes to God's love. Maybe you need to re-evaluate your thoughts on why you go to church and worship. God will not love you more if you look "proper".
          +1

          personally I don't see why I have to go to Church to have a relationship w/God - I can step out side and dig in the earth and be thankful for all that I have.. no need to dress up for that... heck I can be on the loo taking care of business and talk to God if the desire strikes...
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          • #6
            It's about respecting the tradition.

            When you walk into a church in sweatpants or jeans, when you talk during the service, you reject everything the church is about. You are in church for show, just to say you did it. You do not respect it, you spit on it. This is the problem.

            Like I said, piss-poor, war-torn Bosnia looks and behaves better on a Sunday than these overfed sorry sacks.

            It's about culture.

            It's the same reason that a person doesn't eat on a paper plate for dinner but on a proper dish. Yea, you'll still get your nutrition off the paper plate, but you're living an ugly life. God is beautiful, don't bring that ugly look, that ugly mentality to a place of beauty.

            Yea, I'll have to wash the ceramic dish afterwards, where I can just toss a paper plate out. But I've robbed myself of depth, of complexity, of beautiful expression. It's why a dish tastes better when it's plated properly. It's why you get more out of your experience in a house of worship when you're dressed respectfully.

            And yea, you can relate with God everywhere, in the woods, on the beach, in the kitchen. God is everywhere. But church is about community, it's about CONTEXT. It's about depth of experience.
            Last edited by dado; 09-18-2011, 10:59 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dado View Post
              that's nonsense.

              when you walk into a church in jeans or sweatpants, you spit on the church. there is no respect there.

              jesus never said "don't judge"; otherwise, how would he be able to say "don't throw gems in front of swine"? this is a judgement.

              judging is necessary to distinguish between the good things and the evil, and rolling out of bed and walking into church in your underwear and talking during the service is evil.
              You must not have read your bible then. Jesus loved the wretched in tattered clothing just as much or more than the people dressed in elaborate robes. Something for you to think about. What if one of the people in your church dressed in sweats or jeans was the resurrected Jesus? You wouldn't know. You need to learn to treat everyone the way you would like to be treated. Clothes do not make the man. It's the thoughts and the heart of the man that makes the person. You could be dressed to the nines and be an asshole.
              Georgette

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dado View Post
                It's about respecting the tradition.

                When you walk into a church in sweatpants or jeans, when you talk during the service, you reject everything the church is about. You are in church for show, just to say you did it. You do not respect it, you spit on it. This is the problem.

                Like I said, piss-poor, war-torn Bosnia looks and behaves better on a Sunday than these overfed sorry sacks.

                It's about culture.

                It's the same reason that a person doesn't eat on a paper plate for dinner but on a proper dish. Yea, you'll still get your nutrition off the paper plate, but you're living an ugly life. God is beautiful, don't bring that ugly look, that ugly mentality to a place of beauty.
                Then find or start another church that meets your holier than thou standards.
                Georgette

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                • #9
                  I know how you feel. I go up to serve and there are people wearing stuff I wouldn't be caught dead in and yet, they are serving!!! Flip flops, strapless dresses...

                  But then I remember: He didn't come to save to healthy, but the sick. Then I pray, sing loud, dress nice, cover my head, and keep a positive attitude. My religion doesn't depend on what THEY do, but what I do!

                  Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!!!
                  The eyes of all hope in thee, O Lord: and thou givest them meat in due season.
                  Psalms 144:15

                  Annie Sires

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                  • #10
                    wow you must be going to my local church. One of the many reasons I don't go there anymore. When I do go, I drive 40 minutes to the church that takes you as you are, doesn't stick to "traditional" hymns (they have a rock band) and teaches you that Jesus loved the lowest of the low as well as those who dressed good. In fact, he questioned those who were rich and asked if they would give up everything for him...
                    Success is getting what you want, Happiness is wanting what you get~Brother Dave Gardner

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sires6 View Post
                      I know how you feel. I go up to serve and there are people wearing stuff I wouldn't be caught dead in and yet, they are serving!!! Flip flops, strapless dresses...

                      But then I remember: He didn't come to save to healthy, but the sick. Then I pray, sing loud, dress nice, cover my head, and keep a positive attitude. My religion doesn't depend on what THEY do, but what I do!

                      Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!!!
                      Of course. But it's not just about religion or what a bunch of humans wrote down in a book a few thousand years ago. It's about the context, the overall experience. When you come as a sloppy mess to church you cheapen the entire experience for everyone else.

                      A properly plated dinner goes down better, is more enjoyable than a dinner that's tossed on a paper plate. A church service is more enjoyable, more fulfilling, when you are dressed respectfully.

                      Culture is in the details.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gweebles View Post
                        wow you must be going to my local church. One of the many reasons I don't go there anymore. When I do go, I drive 40 minutes to the church that takes you as you are, doesn't stick to "traditional" hymns (they have a rock band) and teaches you that Jesus loved the lowest of the low as well as those who dressed good. In fact, he questioned those who were rich and asked if they would give up everything for him...
                        Sounds like a fun place, and that's cool.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dado View Post
                          It's about respecting the tradition.

                          .
                          Keep in mind that there is no "tradition" in fashion, except perhaps in the Amish community. What was appropriate ten years ago would have been scandalous 30 years ago. I am sure there are people disgusted that women wear open-toed sandals, show their ankles, and don't properly cover their hair in church. Makeup? God Forbid!! Nail polish? Hair color? Fallen women and sluts!!

                          I suggest you ask your pastor/priest if you can give a talk. Explain to the congregation what your standards are for their weight, appearance and behavior, and the consequence of not Obeying your Will. And then let them decide with their free will if they'll bend to your higher wisdom.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fitmom View Post
                            Keep in mind that there is no "tradition" in fashion, except perhaps in the Amish community. What was appropriate ten years ago would have been scandalous 30 years ago. I am sure there are people disgusted that women wear open-toed sandals, show their ankles, and don't properly cover their hair in church. Makeup? God Forbid!! Nail polish? Hair color? Fallen women and sluts!!

                            I suggest you ask your pastor/priest if you can give a talk. Explain to the congregation what your standards are for their weight, appearance and behavior, and the consequence of not Obeying your Will. And then let them decide with their free will if they'll bend to your higher wisdom.
                            Way to totally miss the point.

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                            • #15
                              As George Carlin said, church is a place to compare clothes. Jesus said to pray in your closet.

                              For what it's worth, I see lots of people everywhere that don't seem to know how to act in public, and it bothers me just as much at the grocery store as it would in a church service. I try to remind myself that everything and everyone has value and beauty, but sometimes it's hard.

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