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    When you went Primal, did you go all in one day? Just toss out everything, and do it? Or were you more the baby-steps type? Slowly whittling away foods and changing meals week by week?

    And if you've tried both, you're my new best friend, because I'm trying to figure out which is harder. (And yes, I know it really depends on the person . . . just humor me. It should be an interesting discussion, anyways.)

    Is the carb-flu harder or easier one way or another? Were the habits easier to break all at once? How about feeling grumpy or tired? Any input is interesting!

  • #2
    i sort of eased myself in by eating as close to primal during the week, but still eating like crap on the weekends. then, one day, i just decided to go all in and that worked for me. i had done the low carb thing before though, so it was an easy switch. i think baby steps might be easier for some people who are used to eating a lot of sugar and grains and things and want to learn as they go.

    figuring out which way is easier is largely a personal matter. i had developed some strong will power when it came to food, so i could easily change my diet. but it seems like it would be easier to slowly eliminate the bad foods and work in the good ones.
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    • #3
      All-in. Dumped all garbage outside of a couple condiments that I refuse to live without (here's looking at you, Sriracha sauce) and that was it. I'm about 98% compliant (and those 2% are very few and far between).
      Peak weight on Standard American Diet: 316.8 lbs
      Initial Weight When Starting Primal: 275 lbs
      Current weight: 210.8 lbs
      Goal weight: 220 lbs (or less): MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

      The way "ChooseMyPlate.gov" should have looked:
      ChooseMyPlate

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      • #4
        I started via Atkins. I lost about 10 pounds very quickly on fewer than 20 carbs per day and then progressed up the carb ladder and the weight loss slowed profoundly. I found myself relying on some "products" and didn't want to use that crutch so I started googling about low-carb and often I'd turn up results that related to paleo or primal. I started reading up and it made a lot of sense to me so I thought I'd give it a go after a short detour through Slow Carb (disaster for me). I know people poo-poo Atkins, but from my personal experience the diet part isn't all that different from the later stages of Atkins except for a lot of Atkins-eers rely heavily on artificial sweeteners as well as reduced carb products like pasta, bread and bake mixes. I like the more natural approach of primal and I also like that it's about living a good life and not just about losing weight. Also, I've found that I just have to completely cut out grains to feel good, not just carbs.

        As for the carb flu, I got it out of the way in about 3 days when I started Atkins. The worst part for me was a headache and muscle cramps. So my recommendation for that would be to find a few days where you can hibernate (if possible) and just get it out of the way. Drink lots of chicken broth with sea salt and that will help with the "flu" as well as drink lots of water and eat fat to keep the cravings at bay.
        Last edited by kiss; 08-23-2011, 09:33 AM.
        kiss = keep it simple, sister!

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        • #5
          Just do eeeet!!!

          In my personal opinion baby steps are actually harder. You don't get the real benefits of being fully primal, and yet you feel deprived somehow because you're clinging to the past. All you're doing is prolonging the discomfort that comes from weaning yourself off sugar and grains. To me - tis better to make a fast, clean break. You'll remember weeks of discomfort, but a few days? Twill be a short memory. Yes the discomfort might be a bit more intense, but really I doubt it's that much worse, and dragging it out plays games with your head.

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          • #6
            I jumped right in, my hubby is taking the baby steps. He is having a harder time of it. Best of luck!
            Have high hopes that journaling can keep me on track: www.southerndink.com If you are on twitter hit me up so we can keep each other motivated: http://twitter.com/SouthernDink

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rki View Post
              When you went Primal, did you go all in one day? Just toss out everything, and do it? Or were you more the baby-steps type? Slowly whittling away foods and changing meals week by week?

              And if you've tried both, you're my new best friend, because I'm trying to figure out which is harder. (And yes, I know it really depends on the person . . . just humor me. It should be an interesting discussion, anyways.)

              Is the carb-flu harder or easier one way or another? Were the habits easier to break all at once? How about feeling grumpy or tired? Any input is interesting!
              I tried to ease into it. I thought I could just cut out bread one meal at a time, or just eat that one breadstick and not 4 or 5. Yeah, that didn't work so well, so after a few days I jumped in and never looked back. Carb flu is a pain, but it doesn't last that long, and if you just keep your sodium intake up, and potassium and magnesium, it's not so bad. Just give yourself a reason to take it really easy for a few days until your energy comes back.

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              • #8
                @keithpowers: +1 on sriracha. I don't use it much anymore, but when I need that kick... nothing else works.

                As for me, I eased into it by limiting my non-primal food on a week long workshop abroad... eating out everyday, every meal. I knew I could not dictate oils used in my food, but I was walking several hours a day toting a laptop around and did some bodyweight/resistance band exercises a couple times in my hotel room. Foodwise I ordered large amounts of meat and eggs with grainless sides and no sugars. I also opted out of the provided pizza, biscuits, breadsticks, pastries, etc. and munched on fruit and nuts instead.

                What sold me was how good I felt coming home and the fact that I had actually lost weight (keeping in mind I was ~8% bodyfat) while on travel. I've only felt better since then and, despite my agelong reliance on bread + protein for breakfast, I don't miss grains at all. The hardest part was actually suppressing my instilled aversion to butter/bacon/oil, but that didn't take long.

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                • #9
                  @keithpowers: +1 on sriracha. I don't use it much anymore, but when I need that kick... nothing else works.

                  As for me, I eased into it by limiting my non-primal food on a week long workshop abroad... eating out everyday, every meal. I knew I could not dictate oils used in my food, but I was walking several hours a day toting a laptop around and did some bodyweight/resistance band exercises a couple times in my hotel room. Foodwise I ordered large amounts of meat and eggs with grainless sides and no sugars. I also opted out of the provided pizza, biscuits, breadsticks, pastries, etc. and munched on fruit and nuts instead.

                  What sold me was how good I felt coming home and the fact that I had actually lost weight (keeping in mind I was ~8% bodyfat) while on travel. I've only felt better since then and, despite my agelong reliance on bread + protein for breakfast, I don't miss grains at all. The hardest part was actually suppressing my instilled aversion to butter/bacon/oil, but that didn't take long.

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                  • #10
                    Both - hey new best friend.

                    1st time: Did it with friends and we eased into it....it didn't work. We were all of the Paleo/Primal Bandwagon after 2 weeks. Built in cheats/vices just made it more difficult.

                    2nd time: All in without friends. It was surprisingly easy the 2nd time, because I knew what I was getting into and I was mentally ready (I made it a lifestyle, not a diet).

                    Cold turkey worked best for me. Had lots of energy, no carb flu (sweet tooth different story), and the results were motivating.
                    Primal Krista
                    The Paleo Lifestyle

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                    Before and After Pictures.
                    Height: 5'8"
                    Peak pre-primal weight: 155lbs (6/25/11)
                    Current primal weight: 134lbs (9/9/11)

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                    • #11
                      We started half-way between. We made some best guesses until we got the books and have worked at reducing the non-primal foods in the pantry. We gave up grains and related junk right away but we used up the rest of our sauces and condiments.

                      I would say we started above 80% primal and are hovering around 90-95% now.
                      There are two wolves fighting within a man's heart, one is Love, the other is Hate. The one that wins is the one you feed.

                      My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - Jack Layton

                      The Primal Adventures of Griffin - Huzzah!

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                      • #12
                        Cold turkey.
                        "Wait! I'll fix it!"
                        "Problems always disappear in the presence of a technician."
                        "If you can't improvise, what are you doing out in the field?"

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                        • #13
                          I jumped right in with removal of grains (potatoes/rice included) and sweets - the other stuffed that remained in the fridge (ex. half container of Silk and some lunch meat, and other stuff that weren't super primal), stuck around until it was finished and were never re-bought.

                          Do yourself a favor and become your own savior.
                          Congenital Hypothyroid
                          CW: 225lbs SW: 245lbs

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SouthernDink View Post
                            I jumped right in, my hubby is taking the baby steps. He is having a harder time of it. Best of luck!
                            Yep, my husband can't seem to commit, and the minute he starts to get any carb flu symptoms he eats a sandwich. I think he's also secretly afraid to give up beer.

                            I jumped right in too, and I was recovering from a bad case of strep at the time. I think that contributed to the carb flu I had that lasted almost a month. I'd still do it the same way, though.
                            My Primal Journal with lots of food pr0n

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                            • #15
                              Sort of toddler steps. Replacing pasta & rice with vegetables was easy, but I stuck to my oats for breakfast for months. Gradually I would try having a smoothie or some eggs instead one or two days a week... and then I'd find it had become one day a week for the oats... and then I threw the oats away. This worked well for me -I think it's a personality thing. If you react really badly to the idea that anything is 'not allowed', better to give it up once you don't want it anyway.

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