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  • Colonic irrigation...folly?

    Hello, I am off to a yoga retreat (not one of the vegan brain bashing ones, yay - yes, it was an issue) and I am looking at the spa menu and....colonic irrigation, hmmm.

    I think I agree with Mark in (this is a gross oversimplification, sorry Mark) that our detoxing bits... detox and don't need extra help and our gut will do its stuff, there aren't any nasty little poisons shoved up there that refuse to come out..our guts are working. Most detox fads are fads.

    I can see the appeal to the masses of the mindless assertion that "cleaning" the gut from the back end gets "rid of toxins", which ignores the way the bowel works and elimination generally.

    So why am I tempted?

    (please - no anal probing jokes!! Its not that...)

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    Not only is it pointless, it is downright dangerous. Most colonic 'experts' have no medical training whatsoever and they are not done under the supervision of a doctor and it is easy to puncture the wall of the colon.

    Mayo Clinic

    In fact, colon cleansing can sometimes be harmful. The main concerns with colon cleansing are that it can:

    Increase your risk of dehydration
    Lead to bowel perforations
    Increase the risk of infection
    Cause a rise in your electrolytes, which can be dangerous if you have kidney disease or heart disease

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    • #3
      true. imagine the regret if you ended up with a colostomy after a procedure you knew was pointless...

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      • #4
        Yes, I'm at an age where I have a colonoscopy every 3 years, and I also have a 'sluggish' digestive system that requires a 'super-duper' cleansing process. I would never do this without medical supervision, and I can assure you that when I'm 'clean' the morning of the procedure, I'm also dehydrated and in no condition to function (reversed immediately after the procedure). To do anything like this apart from a medical procedure is, IMO, pure folly.

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        • #5
          You would also be cleaning out your good bacteria, which are already quite messed up by conventional diets, and hard to repopulate.

          Emmie - you should read the info on gutsense.org. The guy does go overboard on some things but there is a bunch of really good info on his site.
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          • #6
            Repressed daddy issues?
            In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
              Repressed daddy issues?
              huh? I don't know what the hell your daddy did to you, but......

              just no

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              • #8
                Well, I sat with my ex in the ER with dehydration after a couple of irrigations.
                No way in hell I'd do it, but YMMV.

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                • #9
                  Gastrointestinal Quackery: Colonics, Laxatives, and More
                  “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                  • #10
                    At some point you'll have to do it in prep for a colonoscopy, assuming you reach age 50. Why would you want to do it any sooner?
                    Wheat is the new tobacco. Spread the word.

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                    • #11
                      If a person has known issues with their gut flora or caused by their gut flora, there are possibilities for cleaning it out and creating an environment which is conducive for a healthier flora, but it ain't colonics.
                      Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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                      • #12
                        BED, GAPS and Enemas

                        I'm curious... I've scoured these threads for the majority opinion on colonics and enemas, and it's quite apparent that that would be a blatant "NOOOO!!!". Which is great to know! I've been considering them. Two diets similar to our primal one are the Body Ecolody diet (no sugar/processed carbs, only a few fermented grains here and there, but not much meat) and the GAPS diet (no sugar/processed carbs, lots of fats and bone broths, no grains for quite a while). Both of these are to heal the gut. They are both used frequently for children who fall on the autism spectrum, it is a very interesting field of research. But! What I'm trying to get at is that both of the programs recommend homes enemas. They say they help immensely with candida's unpleasant die-off effects, and it seems like so many people do enemas. Think the benefits are imagined, or real? I don't want to go down that road if I don't have to, but(t)...

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                        • #13
                          It's all WOO!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Adrianag View Post
                            It's all WOO!
                            Expensive, un-necessary and potentially dangerous woo.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blackcatbone View Post
                              If a person has known issues with their gut flora or caused by their gut flora, there are possibilities for cleaning it out and creating an environment which is conducive for a healthier flora, but it ain't colonics.
                              Such as?

                              I have a book on irrigation. Also The yeast connection mentions it. I don't like the idea of doing the outside of my GI doctor. even then I have issues with it. I have had at least 3 colonoscopies in the past 10 years.
                              My journal where I attempt to overcome Chrohns and make good food as well

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