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  • Ladies who lost their cycle...how long before it came back?

    I've messed up....big time. I lost my cycle since March. My OB decided I needed to go on progesterone to start it....lots of side effects....still no cycle. Then he put me on Clomid to see if ovulating would start my cycle....more side effects....no cycle yet, and I'm 16 days past ovulation.

    I won't lie...I haven't been strict Primal through all this. My hormones are completely out of whack. I tried several OTC herbs, etc. before going the prescription route. Nothing seems to be working.

    I guess my main question is if I go back to pretty strict Primal how long before things level out in your best guess. I heard some women say 8 months. Is it unhealthy for me not to have a cycle for that long?

    I'd appreciate any help. We still want to have children and my biological clock is ticking, but I can't see myself going through a bunch of injections and hormone therapy to have a baby. That can't be good right? I'm already disappointed in myself for letting them put me on Clomid.

  • #2
    There are many factors that can cause your cycle to go wonky or disappear completely.

    Did something happen in March that caused your cycle to stop?

    What's your food intake like? Are you dieting? Are you eating a very low carb diet? Are you eating a very low calorie diet?

    What's your exercise like?

    How's your sleep?

    What are your stress levels like?

    Have you had your hormone levels checked? (LH, FSH, progestrone, estrogen)

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    • #3
      Hormones checked out okay, which perplexed my doctor beyond belief. I've always been stressed to a certain degree...comes with my job in customer service....but I always had regular cycles for the most part....usually 32 days or so. I would occasionally miss a period by two weeks, but not more than that....usually happened once a year.

      I don't really recall any big changes I made to my Primal eating after my last cycle in March. I did temporarily tamper with IFing probably around May. I would skip breakfast and then stop eating at 7pm each night. I eventually stopped when all of this started happening. I was afraid I was putting my body through too much. I also upped my fruit intake.

      I was sleeping just fine. I usually walk for exercise. I'm thinking about bodyweight training soon, but I don't want that to mess me up further. I just can't come to the conclusion that something I did other than going Primal messed my cycles up. I've only had one since going Primal...the one in March. Thanks!

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      • #4
        Okay, I just went through your posting history and from what I've read in your previous posts and threads, it sounds like you are dealing with hypothalamic amenorrhea.

        Dry skin is a sign of low estrogen. Low estrogen(unless you are in menopause) is usually caused from a low carb, low fat, or low caloire diet - or a combination of all three.

        Intermittent fasting is a great tool, but from some women's body's it is too stressful and can alter the menstrual cycle negatively.

        Eating 2-3 servings of fruit is likely not enough carbs for your body to be happy hormonally. I would suggest adding in some starchy carbs - potatoes, rice.

        Make sure the dairy you eat is full fat. Don't fear the fat.

        Some women's body's are also more sensitive to lower body fat levels than others. If your body has stopped cycling at your current BF but was regular at a higher bodyfat that might be telling you something.

        Also, how quickly did you drop the weight that you dropped? That can also cause menstruation to stop.

        And finally, anxiety/stress can cause menstrual irregularities. So relax

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Goldensparrow View Post
          I was sleeping just fine. I usually walk for exercise. I'm thinking about bodyweight training soon, but I don't want that to mess me up further. I just can't come to the conclusion that something I did other than going Primal messed my cycles up. I've only had one since going Primal...the one in March. Thanks!
          I'm going to suggest you up your starchy carbs for a month and see what happens.

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          • #6
            Great advice from NDF.

            Also, make sure your vitamin D levels are sufficient--you'll want to have your levels checked before pregnancy anyway, if you haven't already.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by NDF View Post
              Okay, I just went through your posting history and from what I've read in your previous posts and threads, it sounds like you are dealing with hypothalamic amenorrhea.

              Dry skin is a sign of low estrogen. Low estrogen(unless you are in menopause) is usually caused from a low carb, low fat, or low caloire diet - or a combination of all three.

              Intermittent fasting is a great tool, but from some women's body's it is too stressful and can alter the menstrual cycle negatively.

              Eating 2-3 servings of fruit is likely not enough carbs for your body to be happy hormonally. I would suggest adding in some starchy carbs - potatoes, rice.

              Make sure the dairy you eat is full fat. Don't fear the fat.

              Some women's body's are also more sensitive to lower body fat levels than others. If your body has stopped cycling at your current BF but was regular at a higher bodyfat that might be telling you something.

              Also, how quickly did you drop the weight that you dropped? That can also cause menstruation to stop.

              And finally, anxiety/stress can cause menstrual irregularities. So relax

              Yeah I have IBS, so the dairy is out for me in general. I throw some in occasionally in the form of gourmet ice cream or a bit of cheese, but it's not a regular occurrence in my diet.

              I've always had dry skin, but my diet has always been crap before Primal anyways. Primal just didn't help.

              As for my bodyfat, I did wonder about that. I just find it hard to believe. My lowest bodyfat was 21%...way above the normal 18% before losing your cycle. I lost 8lbs over the course of two months...I don't think that's unreasonable but maybe. I did gain back all the weight in an effort to produce my cycle. I suppose that combined with the prescription drugs didn't help tho. Thanks for the suggestions. I will try keeping my carbs up and hoping for the best. I do take Vitamin D....4-6000IUs a day.

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              • #8
                I do take Vitamin D....4-6000IUs a day.
                This is great--and I still would highly recommend you get your levels checked. Some folks are still deficient, even at that level of supplementation.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
                  This is great--and I still would highly recommend you get your levels checked. Some folks are still deficient, even at that level of supplementation.
                  I will try but finding a doctor that does what you ask around here is very very hard.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Goldensparrow View Post
                    I will try but finding a doctor that does what you ask around here is very very hard.
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                    • #11
                      Awesome...thank you!

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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Goldensparrow View Post
                          Yeah I have IBS, so the dairy is out for me in general. I throw some in occasionally in the form of gourmet ice cream or a bit of cheese, but it's not a regular occurrence in my diet.
                          I'm not saying you have to eat dairy, I'm just saying that if you do, it should be full fat. Don't do low fat anything.
                          IBS is 90% psychological - the internalization of anxiety.

                          I've always had dry skin, but my diet has always been crap before Primal anyways. Primal just didn't help.
                          So have I. Dry skin can be a sign of low estrogen. Were you eating lower fat before primal? Low calorie/dieting? Both those things lower estrogen and cause dry skin. As does high cortisol which is causes by stress/anxiety.

                          As for my bodyfat, I did wonder about that. I just find it hard to believe. My lowest bodyfat was 21%...way above the normal 18% before losing your cycle. I lost 8lbs over the course of two months...I don't think that's unreasonable but maybe. I did gain back all the weight in an effort to produce my cycle. I suppose that combined with the prescription drugs didn't help tho. Thanks for the suggestions. I will try keeping my carbs up and hoping for the best. I do take Vitamin D....4-6000IUs a day.
                          Maybe losing 8lbs over 2 months was too much FOR YOU. Every women's body is different in how it will react to calorie restriction and exercise. And I'm not saying that you will for sure lose your period if your body fat is below X% just that for some women, it does seem to be a factor, and based on what you are experiencing it sounds like it might matter for your body.

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                          • #14
                            Yeah before going Primal I was doing low cal/sometimes vegetarian/sometimes lowfat....basically nothing ever worked, but I kept pushing myself to eat less to maintain my weight at 132...now I can't keep it at that unless I overload on fruit and coconut milk ice cream lol. Maybe my body is still recuperating from that tho. I was just so desperate not to be 160lbs again.

                            IBS 90% internal huh? I never really thought about that. I am a pretty stressed individual. I have a really hard time controlling it without medication, but I've been medication free for almost as long as I've been Primal. I did take some OTC herbs to help with my stress, but now that I'm looking to get pregnant I cut those out too. I'm wondering if it might be better to take them until I get pregnant to help with my cycle regularity and IBS.

                            I'm going to try something different this time to get myself back into awesome shape and hopefully get my cycle back. I'm going to start bodyweight training a few times a week to build muscle....add fruit back in with the occasional treat like coconut milk ice cream. Maybe once I get my stress under control I will add some dairy in and see how it does (I'm an IBS-C person btw if you know anything about it.....I almost wish I was IBS-D sometimes....I think it would be easier to deal with). I don't really like potatoes anymore except yams, so maybe a few yams a week?

                            Thanks for the suggestions!

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                            • #15
                              I'm in the same situation and nothing is rolling my way =/ my cycles been slowly disappearing since my sophomore year.. By junior year it was non existent. At the end of my junior year I made the horrible mistake of not fueling my body enough for the torture I was putting it through (p90x plus track at school). By the time the season ended and my videos were done I looked half the girl I was. It's true when its you, you don't see the changes as drastically as those around you but the concern of my family and friends snapped me back to reality and i reduced the fitness to almost none and gradually increased my intakes. Nothing changed and I was becoming distressed and frustrated. Thats when I found MDA. I've never felt better and my weight has steadily gone up. Unfortunately the cycle is still nonexistent. My doctor said my hormones were fine, everything was fine..So she brought in a nutritionist that strongly recommended I include 6-11 servings of grains to get more weight on. She blames my cycle ending on the fact that I don't consume grains/legumes but it's been gone before I made this switch. So whats the deal? My doctors putting me on drugs and I'm being forced to introduce grains to my diet I've already been forced 3 times and each time my stomach and bloated and hurt like something inside was going to explode.. Does anyone know I can to escape this nightmare?

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