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  • I'm doing my cortisol test today!

    It came in the mail yesterday, so I decided to get it over with today. I'm doing cortisol 4x, DHEA, progesterone, testosterone, estrogen. The morning tube was big and had to be filled at least half way. It took me forever - at least 30 min - to muster up that much spit! I just did the second one - smaller tube plus I must have more saliva production as the day goes on

    2 more tubes to go.

    I hope it's ok that my husband gave me a quick peck on the lips while I was still working on the morning tube...
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    It's not nearly as bad as the stool test I just had to submit. (ugh!)

    Make sure you've stayed clear of cruciferous vegetables first. I eat cabbage and cauliflower practically daily and had to hold off on them for a couple-three days, thereby delaying my test.
    "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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    • #3
      Don't stress over it...
      Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"

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      • #4
        Ooops. I didn't know that about the cruciferous vegetables. I did have a little cauliflower 2 nights ago.

        I emailed the lab about the kiss, and they said it was fine -ha.

        Just finished the third vial.
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        • #5
          And the 4 vials shipped out via UPS last night.

          I'm anxious to get results and begin coming back from what I suspect is some stage of adrenal fatigue. I am hoping to somewhat ameliorate my hypothyroid symptoms too once I get the adrenals healthy again.

          I'm a little concerned about the results being skewed since I had a stressful day Thursday; however, almost every day at work (at least this year) has been rather stressful. I read that you should take the tests on a "normal" day, so I guess it was a fairly normal day.

          Has anyone else done testing through the ZRT lab? This is the test I did.
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          • #6
            I keep meaning to do a saliva ASI- I have this one sitting on my bedside table.
            http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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            • #7
              Good luck. I'm not that familiar with the saliva test. Suppose it comes back positive. Will you also see a doc for blood tests, or start making changes from that one test?

              I have some experience with cortisol because I had adrenal fatigue. It can be very complex. I had a huge "stress belly" but cortisol was low, because my adrenals had already stopped making it. My doc had me taking cortisol and testosterone at the same time in the beginning until things got going again, then we stopped the cortisol. I have been taking DHEA since too.

              Now the adrenals seem to be working better. My HGH went up on it's own, and we keep reducing the testosterone.

              My doc said most dr's won't get near messing with cortisol because it's just too complex, so I think that means its even more risky to try and self-manage.

              Good luck!

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              • #8
                Everything I've read recommends the saliva test (checks cortisol/dhea at 4 different points in the day) as the most accurate indicator of adrenal function. Blood tests apparently just show a one time reading of cortisol which doesn't give a very clear picture of what's going on. After reading these three books (Dr Wilson's Adrenal Fatigue, Marcelle Pick's Wired and Tired, and Dr. K's Thyroid Book) I do realize how intensely complex the whole adrenal fatigue/cortisol issue (and its autoimmune connection) is. I do NOT want nor plan to self treat. But I am also extremely frustrated. I live in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia and have had 0 luck finding a doctor to help me. I've been on some forums where people who are following Dr. K's protocol - through online docs- have spent thousands (I mean upward of 20K in some cases). As much as I want to feel better I do not have the resources to go that route. I am researching still to find a doc within an hour or two of my house who can help me manage my health issues.

                I'm super frustrated that I can't just go to my doc for help with this. It seems to be such a common problem yet is all but ignored by mainstream physicians.

                If anyone has a good doctor to recommend in Virginia, please advise!
                Last edited by Angieh; 05-14-2011, 01:09 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hazyjane View Post
                  I keep meaning to do a saliva ASI- I have this one sitting on my bedside table.
                  Looks very similar to the one I just did. Have you done one before or will this be your first saliva test? You should go ahead and do it this week!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Angieh View Post
                    Looks very similar to the one I just did. Have you done one before or will this be your first saliva test? You should go ahead and do it this week!
                    I've not done the 24 hour test- I did a morning sample test years ago, but that doesn't really tell you much!
                    BTW, I do Dr. K's protocol, but luckily, my doc is CHEAP! He's a chiropractor and does a lot of kinesiology/electrodermal screening in place of a tons of lab tests. I'm getting results, so it seems to be working.
                    http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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                    • #11
                      Cheap and good, really?? What a dream!

                      Do you know if he does distance treatment?

                      I'm so glad to hear you are seeing results!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Angieh View Post
                        Everything I've read recommends the saliva test (checks cortisol/dhea at 4 different points in the day) as the most accurate indicator of adrenal function. Blood tests apparently just show a one time reading of cortisol which doesn't give a very clear picture of what's going on.
                        <snip>

                        I'm super frustrated that I can't just go to my doc for help with this. It seems to be such a common problem yet is all but ignored by mainstream physicians.

                        If anyone has a good doctor to recommend in Virginia, please advise!

                        You are correct about the saliva test at 4 points throughout an entire day being the accurate picture of what's truly going on. That is what my naturopath had me do as well. My results were all over the place, depending on the time of day.

                        I'd suggest you find a good naturopath. He/she should be well-versed in this whole adrenal/thyroid/cortisol/autoimmune mess. My naturopath deals with this very issue every day and knows it like the back of her hand. You're right. It is very complex, and you're gonna need some help sorting it all out. The naturopath I go to is surprisingly cheap and spent two solid hours with me at my initial consultation. Try getting that with any allopathic doctor, anywhere.
                        "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TigerLily View Post
                          You are correct about the saliva test at 4 points throughout an entire day being the accurate picture of what's truly going on. That is what my naturopath had me do as well. My results were all over the place, depending on the time of day.

                          I'd suggest you find a good naturopath. He/she should be well-versed in this whole adrenal/thyroid/cortisol/autoimmune mess. My naturopath deals with this very issue every day and knows it like the back of her hand. You're right. It is very complex, and you're gonna need some help sorting it all out. The naturopath I go to is surprisingly cheap and spent two solid hours with me at my initial consultation. Try getting that with any allopathic doctor, anywhere.
                          What, exactly, do you mean by "naturopath?" I looked up the generic wiki definition, and it could mean a lot of things.

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                          • #14
                            @DFH: It's a naturopathic physician. You are looking for "ND" after their name, rather than "MD."

                            Here is some further info (link from the school my naturopath went to, the National College of Natural Medicine):
                            National College of Natural Medicine: A Naturopathic School and Classical Chinese Medicine School located in Portland, OR - About Naturopathic Medicine
                            "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Angieh View Post
                              Cheap and good, really?? What a dream!

                              Do you know if he does distance treatment?

                              I'm so glad to hear you are seeing results!
                              He doesn't do distance, but if you can find one of Dr. K's people who is a trained kinesiologist, who does the muscle testing instead of only labwork, that could save a lot of money.
                              There are certain things you can do on your own, too: you can use Apex Oxicell glutathione cream (you can get it online) to reduce systemic inflammation (this is safe for anyone) and you can take emulsified D drops.
                              You could even order your own antibodies test if your doc won't (a lot of insurance doesn't cover the antibody tests anyway): https://www.directlabs.com/OrderTest...S/Default.aspx
                              http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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