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  • i really don't know what "alpha male" is, other than the links. my husband doesn't put me on a pedestal or treat me like a princess, and i wouldn't want him to. i expect him to have some self-respect and treat me with respect. if that's "alpha male", then i'll all for it.
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    • Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
      i really don't know what "alpha male" is, other than the links. my husband doesn't put me on a pedestal or treat me like a princess, and i wouldn't want him to. i expect him to have some self-respect and treat me with respect. if that's "alpha male", then i'll all for it.
      I don't like the term "alpha" as it implies dominant or that the person should be leading/head of the pack. Alpha is at the expense of someone else. Being a strong or confident man is great. One doesn't have to dominate in order to do that. And being strong also means being able to admit when you don't have all the answers and maybe someone else is better suited to make a decision.
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      • Originally posted by Blackcatbone View Post
        I don't like the term "alpha" as it implies dominant or that the person should be leading/head of the pack. Alpha is at the expense of someone else. Being a strong or confident man is great. One doesn't have to dominate in order to do that. And being strong also means being able to admit when you don't have all the answers and maybe someone else is better suited to make a decision.
        +1
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        • I think this alpha beta dichotomy is misleading. Our brains want to put people in categories, but a true man is above this.

          What is most important and what women appreciate most is an absolute confidence in decisions and actions. It is picking a way and having no doubts about carrying this way to its conclusion. Wrong decision, right decision, it does not matter. It is that you decide and act that is key.

          It is not more complicated than this. You can observe the effects of this in the smallest decisions, such as turning the heat down or in the bigger ones, such as picking a house to buy out of two options, for example.

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          • Originally posted by Apex Predator View Post
            What's wrong with crying? Who cares if someone thinks you are gay?
            A hell of a lot of men, that's who. I see it all the time. Little boys are told to stop crying, stop being sissies, don't act like a girl (the worst offense ever, apparently). Men don't wear certain things/colors because someone might think they are gay. They don't have close friendships with other men because someone might think they are gay. They don't cry because it shows "weakness".
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            • This is why I wanted to bury the topic of Alpha/Beta. The conversation about treating women with respect doesn't need to die, just the PUA, "gaming" relationships and such.
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              • Originally posted by Rosegin View Post
                A hell of a lot of men, that's who. I see it all the time. Little boys are told to stop crying, stop being sissies, don't act like a girl (the worst offense ever, apparently). Men don't wear certain things/colors because someone might think they are gay. They don't have close friendships with other men because someone might think they are gay. They don't cry because it shows "weakness".

                I have to disagree with you. Men (and women) need to filter some of the emotion and leave that kind of stuff out of public display. I don't want to say it's weak to cry, but it is a sign of weakness to show weakness.
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                • Originally posted by New Renaissance View Post
                  I have to disagree with you. Men (and women) need to filter some of the emotion and leave that kind of stuff out of public display. I don't want to say it's weak to cry, but it is a sign of weakness to show weakness.
                  It depends. If you're talking about something like the death of a loved one, intense pride in something, etc . . . I see no reason to filter it out. On the other hand, tears as manipulation should be filtered out of the public and private.
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                  • Originally posted by strom View Post
                    I have been a doormat and not assertive about my own wants. This makes me resentful. Also I tend to be an intervert since I don't always relate to others well. Unless they think like me.

                    @New Renaissance- This has been one of the best ideas running through this entire thread an you want it to end for some reason. This thread was drying up content and interest wise and this topic gave it a much needed boost.

                    @Rosegin- I don't think Grok and Grokette would take equal roles, since Grok was physically stronger and faster than Grokette at least upper body wise. He was also wired for hunting and tracking. Grokette probably did help a lot but if she had a child, she would be far better at raising him than the male. Both of there goals was to survive so they would do whatever they were best at, in a complimentary fashion. To me it seems like a lot of women are far better at handling multiple tasks but not as good at single sustained focus on a single task. The male is the reverse, and they can compliment one and other quite well. I could be wrong about this, since I have not seen Grok and Grokkette in action.
                    You're right, I think we agree on Grok/Grokette. What I meant was that she would have been fiercely protective of the home/children. She would have had to be strong while Grok was away hunting, sometimes for days at a time. She would have provided sources of food, she would have made skins into clothing, etc. I think some are trying to paint a picture where women sat back and did nothing while being "taken care of". My thoughts are that men and women can equally take care of each other.
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                    • Originally posted by New Renaissance View Post
                      I have to disagree with you. Men (and women) need to filter some of the emotion and leave that kind of stuff out of public display. I don't want to say it's weak to cry, but it is a sign of weakness to show weakness.
                      But what we're left with is men who don't show ANY emotion but anger, ever. I don't think crying is weakness. I think it's a valid show of emotion just like yelling or laughing.
                      ~Sandy

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                      • Originally posted by Blackcatbone View Post
                        It depends. If you're talking about something like the death of a loved one, intense pride in something, etc . . . I see no reason to filter it out. On the other hand, tears as manipulation should be filtered out of the public and private.
                        Exactly.
                        ~Sandy

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                        • Holy crap. I have been offline for about little over a week and open this thread. I only opened the first page and then realized it was 164 pages long. FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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                          • Tears should not be used as a weapon. Ever. I don't care what your gender or excuse is. Tears are not to be used as weapons. Showing emotion in times of great duress is one thing, using "emotion" to manipulate others is cruel and wrong. What the hell ever happened to the Platinum Rule (Treat others as they'd wish to be treated)?
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                            • Originally posted by Rosegin View Post
                              You're right, I think we agree on Grok/Grokette. What I meant was that she would have been fiercely protective of the home/children. She would have had to be strong while Grok was away hunting, sometimes for days at a time. She would have provided sources of food, she would have made skins into clothing, etc. I think some are trying to paint a picture where women sat back and did nothing while being "taken care of". My thoughts are that men and women can equally take care of each other.
                              i agree. i was actually thinking of US pioneer women. often the men would be away to hunt, trade, get supplies in town, etc. and she was left in charge of protecting the children and homestead from wild animals, native attacks, and wandering scoundrels. just as society has lost sight of what a"real" man is, we've also lost sight of what a "real" woman is. in trying to regain the "real" man, we're pushing women further from the ideal woman. the truth is, we've ALL gone soft.

                              Tears should not be used as a weapon. Ever. I don't care what your gender or excuse is. Tears are not to be used as weapons. Showing emotion in times of great duress is one thing, using "emotion" to manipulate others is cruel and wrong. What the hell ever happened to the Platinum Rule (Treat others as they'd wish to be treated)?
                              +1

                              in some ways, this whole alpha male thing is a self-fulfilling prophecy. if you treat women like they're inferior, the only ones who will stick around are the inferior. if you expect respect from others, they will either step up or GTFO.
                              Last edited by Saoirse; 05-09-2011, 09:45 AM.
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                              • Originally posted by Rosegin View Post
                                But what we're left with is men who don't show ANY emotion but anger, ever. I don't think crying is weakness. I think it's a valid show of emotion just like yelling or laughing.
                                Just because it's a valid show of emotion doesn't mean it's appropriate in all instances. Public displays of emotion need to be tempered, in my opinion. This entire country needs to Harden the F@ck Up.
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