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    I've been reading the posts about acne and PB, but I wonder if anybody has had any success curing rosacea with a primal diet. Rosacea is a little different from regular acne. People of Celtic descent are particularly prone to it, and it seems to be exacerbated by exposure to sun. It starts out as broken capillaries in the cheeks and on the nose usually, and sometimes turns into little red bumps. I've had this condition now for about 20 years; it started when I was around 35 I guess. It comes and goes.

    I've been eating a primal diet now for a year. I still eat some dairy such as cheese and cream and butter, but almost no milk or yogurt Recently I stopped eating nuts, and my rosacea flared up. Not sure if there was any connection there, but nuts were the last PUFAs in my diet.

    Thinking about eliminating dairy altogether as an experiment, and maybe fruit as well.

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    • #3
      That's really interesting about the nuts. Today, I received this newsletter from my former "diet guru". I have a new bottle of GLA (black currant seed oil) from my Fat Flush days that is still good and thought I might try using it (with plenty of Omega 3's to balance) and see if it helps. Here is some info about it. I am leery of adding Omega 6's but people on her forum swear by her GLA for a number of things.

      I have also read about one cause of rosacea being low HCL. There is a test you can do yourself to see if you have low stomach acid. I am trying to supplement HCL because i am very low. I totally flunked the HCL test and have terrible rosacea. I do feel that dairy makes it worse. I may try to go totally dairy free soon to see the effect but am trying a few other things first.

      Daily green tea does seem to help me with the inflammation. I know it's an inflammation issue and just haven't found the magic button yet to turn it off. I have heard from real people on the other forum who have said that the HCL helped them but it took a long time.

      Hopefully, we can find solutions to this scourge!
      Last edited by TornadoGirl; 03-01-2011, 07:12 PM.
      True healthcare reform starts in your kitchen, not in Washington. ~Anonymous
      The worst carrot is better than the best candybar.--TornadoGirl

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        I am trying Dr. Cordain's anti-acne diet, even though rosacea is different from regular acne. His thesis is that high glycemic index foods like potatoes cause acne. I did start eating more potatoes recently. Yesterday I quit, and we'll see what happens. Also I quit cheese and yogurt (I had already stopped grains a long time ago).

        I've heard about the HCL thing. It seems worth a try: couldn't hurt.

        Do you drink the green tea or put it on your face?

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        • #5
          I'm taking 4000 units a day, because the smog here makes sunbathing ineffective for the most part.

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          • #6
            Hi. Onset for me was also right at 35, come to think of it. With Paleo/Primal, I have had some success with my rosacea, but not complete. I am dairy-free and nightshade-free. I was nut-free for 30 days and did not notice a difference irt rosacea (but did in other ways). Once those capillaries are broken around the nose, I don't think they can ever get un-broken. The redness on my Rudolf nose did go away, however, as did much (but not all) on my cheeks. I am going next week to get all this taken care of via pulsed light (laser). Noninvasive, and I should be out of there pretty quickly. The doctor said I'd only need one treatment. I probably would have needed more if it weren't for this WOE. Foods that cool -- such as cucumbers and melons -- definitely do help.
            "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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            • #7
              let us know how the pulsed light thing goes.

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              • #8
                I've had the pulsed light. It reduces the redness, but it just comes back.

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                • #9
                  TigerLily, I had laser treatment for rosacea several years ago. It helped with the broken capillaries and slightly with the overall redness-for a while. While I still have redness, it has improved after giving up grains and sugar. I was hoping for more improvement when I gave up Diet Pepsi in November but can't really see a difference.

                  Shat, I'd be interested in learning more about the HCL connection. If you could provide links/info I'd appreciate it. I have always wondered about a connection between my rosacea onset and having my gallbladder removed.

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                  • #10
                    I think sugar in any form is really really important to remove. Recently after a shameful binge day (premenstrual and was exposed to an Almond Joy...whoops!) my face was much redder the day before. Going primal in general has helped a lot but my face was the least red when I eliminated ALL sources of sugar, including fruits, to kill off the candida remaining in my system. You might want to do a paleo anti-candida diet for a couple weeks and see how it goes.
                    I don't own a scale and don't care to!

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                    • #11
                      Short of IPL, is anyone aware of how to get rid of the broken capillaries around the nose?

                      What's left of the redness on my cheeks I can deal with, but those broken capillaries really do bug me and are only getting worse the older I get. My mom and grandparents had this really bad, so I can see where this is heading....

                      I actually went to this laser institute for pulse dye laser on cherry angiomas ("blood freckles") on my face. That is my primary concern and the least favorite thing about myself, and I am *FINALLY* getting these things removed. Those definitely cannot be fixed via an anti-inflammatory diet, and they drive me crazy! But the doc said, "While you are here, we can take care of this, too, if you'd like" (meaning the rosacea/broken capillaries). The pulse laser dye is a different treatment from the IPL. I would be willing to completely skip the IPL if only there was something I could do for these broken capillaries.

                      I wonder who else had onset of rosacea right at 35, too? I was just e-mailing with a friend who has really bad rosacea, and she said hers came on at 35 as well. I definitely do have candida overgrowth, and that is actively being addressed, but it can be a real b*itch to truly eradicate. Interesting connection....
                      Last edited by TigerLily; 03-02-2011, 04:30 PM.
                      "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                      • #12
                        Here's some HCL info. Here's the info about the test.
                        True healthcare reform starts in your kitchen, not in Washington. ~Anonymous
                        The worst carrot is better than the best candybar.--TornadoGirl

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                        • #13
                          Thank you shat.

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                          • #14
                            I am having some success with Dr. Cordain's anti-acne diet. I have been doing it now for a week, and my rosacea has definitely improved. The main change to my diet was fewer high glycemic load foods, like potatoes and bananas. I don't go along with his advice to eat canola oil and flax oil, or to limit animal fat. I eat a lot of animal fat and coconut, and a Primal Blueprint diet generally. I eliminated cheese for the past week, but I still eat butter and cream.

                            I had started eating more bananas and potatoes recently, simply because I had some carb cravings, but it turned out that wasn't a good idea. When my rosacea has cleared up, I might try adding a sweet potato now and then, and a banana every other day or so.

                            Another thing I noticed about this very low glycemic load diet: it seems to make my stress incontinence less bothersome. I have had stress incontinence since I had a baby thirty years ago. I have done all sorts of exercises to try to fix this problem, with little success. But paying close attention to the glycemic load of foods has definitely helped that problem also.

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                            • #15
                              I've had a lot of success with the Rosacea by really cutting back on Nightshades. It isn't gone, but it is 90% less than it was. I don't know that anything will get rid of the broken capillaries that I would be remotely interested in doing, but the redness/flushing is almost totally gone. I am unsure if it was the Nightshades, or if it was a cumulative result from cutting out all grains that started in late July. Regardless, I am happy that my face no longer glows in the dark...

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