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  • Originally posted by Mud Flinger View Post
    GOTD: If you own a little monster, please do not trap a plane full of people with "it" for 3 hours! I had the "privillage" of flying in front a a spoiled kid who screamed at the top of her lungs most of the flight because her parents were told not to let he run the plane the entire flight. By the end of the flight, the brats Mom was being pissy with the flight attendants as she had to restrain her for landing. I know all kids have their days (I have kids) and all go through a moster stage. Parents, please stay home until you can learn to parent properly and/or your kid out grows it (most usually do). I have passed up trips to Spain and Hawaii when my son was at this stage. Grandma can either come visit you or can wait until the kid "grows up" a little.
    Amen.

    I see so many kids that are totally out of control and the parents somehow think the kid will "just know" how to behave in a situation where they need to sit still and be quiet. They don't, and everyone else pays the price.

    My kids learned from experience. We started taking them to restaurants with Grandma and Grandpa after they were about a month old, and I did A LOT of parking lot sitting and walking with them when they decided to try the whole "loud/squirmy" thing. They learned pretty quickly that behaving meant being gushed over by Grandma, and being even a little loud meant sitting outside in a parking lot with boring old mom. Instant "Well Behaved Kid".

    I've even been on road trips between the north part of Los Angeles to San Felipe, Mexico with them, and they were pretty damn good.
    Durp.

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    • As much as it sucks for other passengers, I disagree. Maybe the parents could have done something different to help manage the kid, but I don't think travel plans should necessarily be curtailed entirely until the child is older. Then again, I'm able to tune out hollering and crying pretty easily.
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      • GOTD - left pinky and ring finger have been numb all day...thinkin i have an ulnar nerve entrapment...can't get a dr.'s appt til next week...balls...
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        • stupid dog owners! mine obey get a grip on yours.

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          • My oldest soon (early 30s) has been diagnosed with everything from Chron’s disease to pancreatitis to… you name it. Put on medications, x-rayed, scanned, poked, prodded, to the point that his life has looked like an episode of “House”.

            I have fought this, tried to turn him away from CW and towards a healthier lifestyle but my wife has more influence over him than I do it seems. And she will drop a pill for any minor ache or pain.

            My son had a recent run of some type of skin disorder and one of the medications they started him on was an immune suppressant along with steroids, antibiotics and other medications. My rants to both of them have been ignored.

            Last night (he is not close to where we live), he went into the hospital for what he thought was an episode of pancreatitis but turns out that, yep, he has been put on too many medications and they are screwing him up.

            Fuck me……
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            • Sorry. That really does suck. My ex had custody of my younger son for 5 or 6 years, and now that he's 18, he has moved back in with me for college. The man did everything for him, so now he doesn't know how. Not to mention living on commercial yogurt and cereal (as an athlete, no less).

              I hate being "the crazy parent that's into all that mumbo-jumbo" when the other one won't even give it a chance.

              Hope he starts feeling better soon, and they start listening to you.
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              • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                As much as it sucks for other passengers, I disagree. Maybe the parents could have done something different to help manage the kid, but I don't think travel plans should necessarily be curtailed entirely until the child is older. Then again, I'm able to tune out hollering and crying pretty easily.
                Any parent is able to make their kid behave. Just need the right kind of kick in the a... When my daughter was about 12 years old, she could make anybody silence their kids in an instant. All it took was tell the parents: "If you don't shut up that kid, I will do". When a 12 year old says so, I don't know what people think but they act immediately. With her growing up the magic slowly disappeared.

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                • Here lately, my answer has been to take the matter into my own hands. After 5-10 min, I'll go to the restaurant table/ crying child in the grocery/ whatthehellever, and ask the kid what's wrong or what they're doing. By the time I'm able to start coaxing an answer out of the kid, the parents swoop in, all offended. They ask me what the fuck I thought I was doing with their child and my answer is always "well, given that your kid is still [crying, acting out, misbehaving, etc], I figured you needed some help figuring out what's wrong." I walk back to what I was doing and the parent makes the kid shut up/ sit down.
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                  • Originally posted by Tribal Rob View Post
                    GOTD - I want to learn how to kill the feck out of animals, cook and eat them, but the only hunting in the UK seems to be toffs going rah rah rah and waving guns at pheasants which they don't even eat.
                    You need to find some peasants
                    Look on river cottage forums for ferreters perhaps, or local gun club to learn to shoot?
                    The posh pheasants might end up with someone like Game Dealers Animal West Yorkshire | My Local Services - it's a start on plucking/gutting/cooking/eating!

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                    • Children are people, they have bad days and don't always know how to handle them. Children are a part of the world. If you don't like that only go where there are no children.

                      Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
                      Here lately, my answer has been to take the matter into my own hands. After 5-10 min, I'll go to the restaurant table/ crying child in the grocery/ whatthehellever, and ask the kid what's wrong or what they're doing. By the time I'm able to start coaxing an answer out of the kid, the parents swoop in, all offended. They ask me what the fuck I thought I was doing with their child and my answer is always "well, given that your kid is still [crying, acting out, misbehaving, etc], I figured you needed some help figuring out what's wrong." I walk back to what I was doing and the parent makes the kid shut up/ sit down.
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                      • Note I said nothing about disciplining other people's kids. I talk to the kid so I can see what's going on. It's a lot easier to tolerate a crying kid who's just having a bad day or isin pain than it is to tolerate a kid whining because he can't get a computer game.
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                        • Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
                          Note I said nothing about disciplining other people's kids. I talk to the kid so I can see what's going on. It's a lot easier to tolerate a crying kid who's just having a bad day or isin pain than it is to tolerate a kid whining because he can't get a computer game.
                          Yep.

                          And half the time kids scream because no one pays them any attention until they do.

                          I find kids don't go ballistic half as much if they know they'll be heard when they speak politely. Doesn't mean they get their way all the time by any means, but just hearing them out works wonders toward making them act more grownup.
                          Durp.

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                          • Yes, children are part of the world, but that's no reason why people can't train their children to behave in public. While I sympathize with the parent of a screaming child in a grocery store, I absolutely don't in a restaurant. While telling us that children are part of the world, let's not forget the parents' responsibility in not making them an unpleasant part of the world. Let's remember that for things like movies, all adults pay for that half price children's seat because the theatre owner has to determine based on experience how many adults:children will be in the seats and price adult prices accordingly. That goes for everything (zoo admission, museum admission, etc.). While that is the way of the world, and we're used to it, don't ask us to subsidize children and then have to listen to them scream.

                            Back when restaurants still had smoking sections, when asked smoking or non-smoking, my exhusband and I used to ask to be seated as far from any children as possible. Even though neither of us smoked, misbehaved children had already become so ubiquitous that we would rather put up with the after dinner cigarettes.

                            Oops, my gripe of the day: I'm jonesin' for a cup of coffee and it's almost 8pm. If I give in, I'll be up all night.
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                            • Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                              While I sympathize with the parent of a screaming child in a grocery store, I absolutely don't in a restaurant. While telling us that children are part of the world, let's not forget the parents' responsibility in not making them an unpleasant part of the world.(
                              I hear ya. I always removed my kids when at all possible (like restaurants - having to stand out in the parking lot until Junior figures it out is just part of being a parent), but training them in the first place is really so much easier on everyone. My kids were going out to decent restaurants (and sitting with me in parking lots occasionally) since they were only weeks old.
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                              • If you wouldn't listen to a screaming adult, you shouldn't listen to a screaming child.

                                Most of the time, the screaming child is screaming due to poor parenting to begin with. They learn that screaming is a way to get what they want. This behaviour remains the same regardless of location because others tolerate it and parents do nothing when out in public.

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