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  • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
    My coworkers and their awful tastes in music. Every goddamn day it's an infinite loop of Creed, Eminem, DMX, Staind and Three Days Grace, and I'm this | | close to killing everyone and then myself.

    But soon I'll be in charge of the prep kitchen (and thus its ipod dock), and I'm going to make them pay dearly for what they've done.
    I'm going to a Barry Manilow concert in August... does this give you any ideas? OOOhhhhh - how about PAT BOONE!
    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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    • Ooh, yes. My kids are grown now and not perfect (like mom) but they had no reasons why they couldn't behave, and so they were expected to, especially in public.

      Back when I was still with their dad, we all went out to dinner with a friend of his and his friend's family. My kids were sitting there, listening or quietly talking, but the friend's kid was all over the place. She would play in the aisles, right in front of the waiters, and at one point she even climbed into the booth behind us, pulled herself over the partition and onto my ex's shoulders, then climbed down his body onto our table! Her parents just thought it was cute. My kids were freaking out!
      Durp.

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      • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
        My coworkers and their awful tastes in music. Every goddamn day it's an infinite loop of Creed, Eminem, DMX, Staind and Three Days Grace, and I'm this | | close to killing everyone and then myself.

        But soon I'll be in charge of the prep kitchen (and thus its ipod dock), and I'm going to make them pay dearly for what they've done.
        Oh I can SOOOO relate! There are 4 of us at my office. 2 people have their own offices with doors that shut. The other 2 of us share the main office space. He listens to the SAME damn music everyday. Music I could potentially like if I wasn't so gosh darn sick of it. And most of it is mexican pop music. Some days I just stick my headphones in and ignore the office.

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        • Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
          the friend's kid was all over the place. She would play in the aisles, right in front of the waiters, and at one point she even climbed into the booth behind us, pulled herself over the partition and onto my ex's shoulders, then climbed down his body onto our table! Her parents just thought it was cute. My kids were freaking out!
          Trust me, I am no advocate of spank first - ask questions later. But my palms still tingle when I hear stories like these...

          And now that I have 4 of my own, I am smart enough to realize the parents should get it first!
          I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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          • I set my work truck to classical music if I think I'm going to be gone for a day or two. That way I know if someone else uses it because NO ONE at work listens to that besides me and the first thing they'd do is change the station.

            If there was a '30s station, I'd set it to that. I can dream...
            Durp.

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            • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
              And now that I have 4 of my own, I am smart enough to realize the parents should get it first!
              Most definitely!
              Durp.

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              • I remember the days of "Do you WANT me to take you out to the car?" Funny thing, after one time each of either getting my hide tanned or getting a quiet rage "conversation," I decided it's a good idea to behave in public. My parents weren't too shy about busting someone else's kid's butt if they were in my parents charge, either. Then again, ym mom had The Look that could freeze hell and change satan's mind, so...
                As it is, when I've taken Niece out and about somewhere, all it really takes is letting her know the place- specific rules once we're in the car and a reminder that this was kindness that her mama or I could easily take away. Bam, model child.
                Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, steak in one hand, chocolate in the other, yelling "Holy F***, What a Ride!"
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                • Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
                  As it is, when I've taken Niece out and about somewhere, all it really takes is letting her know the place- specific rules once we're in the car and a reminder that this was kindness that her mama or I could easily take away. Bam, model child.
                  Yup. Works on mine, too. Fair to the kid, because kid knows your expectations and doesn't have to guess. Or pretend to "not know"... All things being healthy - kids do rise - or fall - to your expectations.
                  I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                  • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
                    I'll tell you a family story - my aunt and uncle have a daughter (my cousin, duh). This cousin married and had a daughter of her own, I"ll call her Kelly (not her real name). Kelly's dad is Canadian, Mom is an American, and the family lives in Canada, so visits are special cuz they don't happen easily. Well, on one of the visits, this girl spent a decent part of the evening LEAPING from the couches to the end tables to the coffee table and back again. In full view of the father. Who did absolutely nothing.

                    My uncle, being everything but a priest in his Episcopal church and a conservative man and father, finally had enough after asking numerous times. So he took matters into his own hands - he walked over to the young lady and bodily plucked her off his furniture and placed her onto the floor. This kid was no toddler at the time...

                    Kelly's father was so incensed at this action that he immediately packed his family up and drove right back to Canada early. I heard later, from my cousin herself (Kelly's mom), that this man will also let Kelly walk willy-nilly through restaurants upsetting anything she pleases, so until Kelly's father learns something about child care, there will be no further children - and there haven't been.

                    Don't know what the father went through as a kid - maybe he had brutally controlling parents or something (I barely know him)?? But good for my uncle!!!

                    One of the best parenting bits of advice I ever got was this: YOU MUST SAY NO TO A KID - IT IS THE BEGINNING OF SELF-CONTROL.
                    This is just more proof that america sucks.
                    In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                    • Originally posted by Alex Good View Post
                      This is just more proof that america sucks.
                      So your point is what? That the Canadian dad was justified in letting his daughter be a hoyden in the house of his American father-in-law? And if so, please state cogent reasoning.
                      Last edited by Crabbcakes; 06-25-2012, 10:07 PM.
                      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                      • Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
                        So your point is what? That the Canadian dad was justified in letting his daughter be a hoyden in the house of his American father-in-law? And if so, please state cogent reasoning.
                        While I have no clue what a "hoyden" is, I can only assume it means energetic, fun loving individual. And instead of repressing his daughter's sense of adventure with indoctrinating american swill he let her play. From what you said she wasn't hurting anyone and quite frankly your uncle had no right to touch her. I would have punched him for that.
                        In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                        • Actually he did have a right to touch her... she was inside HIS house climbing HIS furniture and he had asked her father to make her stop abusing HIS home several times.

                          What you let your child do within your own house is one thing... allowing them to climb and act destructively toward other peoples possessions is outside your scope of decision making.

                          You can have kids who understand both fun loving AND respectful.

                          If someone punched me in my home for removing their ignorant child from standing on my end tables... they would be escorted from my home by the police. Because punching someone IS actually outside that persons rights.

                          BTW that has nothing to do with being American... that is common sense that you don't allow children to act like that in public and in other peoples homes. Even dogs are expected to act better... unless they are kept chained to a tree in the yard.
                          To teach a child any less is to do them a great disservice.
                          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                          • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                            Actually he did have a right to touch her... she was inside HIS house climbing HIS furniture and he had asked her father to make her stop abusing HIS home several times.

                            What you let your child do within your own house is one thing... allowing them to climb and act destructively toward other peoples possessions is outside your scope of decision making.

                            You can have kids who understand both fun loving AND respectful.

                            If someone punched me in my home for removing their ignorant child from standing on my end tables... they would be escorted from my home by the police. Because punching someone IS actually outside that persons rights.

                            BTW that has nothing to do with being American... that is common sense that you don't allow children to act like that in public and in other peoples homes. Even dogs are expected to act better... unless they are kept chained to a tree in the yard.
                            To teach a child any less is to do them a great disservice.
                            Thanks Cori! That was well said.

                            Alex, I won't engage in any kind of pissing match between you and I purely on the grounds that you are Canadian and I am American, but I will argue with you about respectful children.

                            There are some additional points that you don't get: first, it really has nothing to do with "fun". This uncle did not ask her to sit like a statue with her hands folded in her lap and her eyes downturned for the duration of the visit - he asked her to stop playing hopscotch across his furniture. This uncle of mine has a huge backyard directly attached to said living room. There is everything there - fish pond, woods, hammock, fully outfitted stone deck, lawn space. If it were just a matter of preserving her oh-so-precious fun, three paces would have seen her in a place entirely suited to "energetic fun" and entirely within my uncle's approval as well.

                            Also - Kelly's father absolutely knew the kind of household his father-in-law runs. He wasn't down for the first-visit-to-the-parents. This is the household of his wife - he knew it well; Kelly was well into childhood and still jumping on coffee tables. Beds, I can kind of understand - I think everybody alive has tried that one. But to think that my uncle would suddenly agree to out-of-control indoor behavior was unreasonable on the part of the father.

                            I have told my own kids this: wherever you go, the strictest rules prevail, even if they are stricter that what you are accustomed to. And if you find you cannot handle other folks rules, do not go there again. That was the only thing Kelly's father got right - he left a situation he was not willing to accomodate himself to. But he cut short his wife's visit with her much beloved parents to do it.

                            I would like you to address the restaurant behavior, seeing as you are all about energetic kids having "it didn't hurt anybody" fun. Do you actually smile with indulgence when an anonymous rogue kid deliberately messes with your table at an eatery?
                            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                            • Side note: Alex isn't much more than a kid himself.

                              It all comes down to being really naive I think.

                              Kids who are allowed to act however they want with no parental boundaries have issues throughout life... seriously. They never learn to cope with direction.

                              Also... If my husband allowed my child to act that way, it would NOT shorten my visit with family. I would put both of them in time out, or husband could go home alone and I'd tend the child without him... because that would be more appropriate than to allow him to continue supporting the child's disrespectful behavior.
                              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                              • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                                Also... If my husband allowed my child to act that way, it would NOT shorten my visit with family. I would put both of them in time out, or husband could go home alone and I'd tend the child without him... because that would be more appropriate than to allow him to continue supporting the child's disrespectful behavior.
                                Yea, I feel the same way. Just between the two of us, there is a 20-year age diff between the two (he is the older), so that put him at 40+ when this happened. And he happens to be a controlling son-of-a-gun where his wife is concerned. My aunt has told me that he really isn't loving or tender to her, basically ever. She had to grow up quick where he was concerned, but back then my cousin didn't have all the steel in her spine she possesses today.

                                Much different than our men, eh?
                                I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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