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  • Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
    Vegans who think they are spiritual and in touch with the planet. They couldn't be further removed from it in their thinking. I have a theory that vegans basically are terrified of death and view it as something horrible rather than something necessary and generative of new life.
    +1. It's rejection of your own humanity. No matter how hard I wish, I'll never be a grazing animal. Sorry. Would you like to turn all the lions into zebras too?
    If we’re not supposed to eat animals, how come they’re made out of meat? Tom Snyder

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    • Originally posted by geostump View Post
      How it works is #1 You must be a registered voter. They only pull from the registry of those that vote.
      Not in California or Oregon. Both states uses voter registration and DMV records.

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      • Originally posted by Grumpy Caveman View Post
        Vegans who think they are spiritual and in touch with the planet. They couldn't be further removed from it in their thinking. I have a theory that vegans basically are terrified of death and view it as something horrible rather than something necessary and generative of new life.
        I see them as modern puritans, denying themselves in much the way puritans did.
        Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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        • GOTD: Industrial strength perfume/cologne!!

          Waiter wore something that made my throat constrict, my sinuses block up, and she took umbrage when I told her that I seemed to be allergic to her fragrance. We had already ordered or we would have left. She got someone else to handle our table. You'd think people who have to work closely with the public would have clue not to bathe in fragrance. I am not generally allergic to things, but this would have made flies and mosquitoes drop.
          This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

          Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
          Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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          • Originally posted by Blackcatbone View Post
            I see them as modern puritans, denying themselves in much the way puritans did.
            puritan isn't an antonym for hedonist
            Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
            Starting Weight: 294 pounds
            Current Weight: 235 pounds
            Goal Weight: 195 pounds

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            • Nobody said it was. Cromwell himself (Puritan) promoted the Self-Denying Ordinance. They wrote and preached plenty on the topic of denying themselves.

              Gripe of the day: Baby's having a growth spurt and racing through our collective milk supply.
              "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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              • Originally posted by Digby View Post
                GOTD: Industrial strength perfume/cologne!!
                People are free to smell how they want, but goddamn, I hate fragrances. They're almost always overpowering, and it's hard to enjoy being around a person when their smell is giving you a headache. I prefer BO, even if the person thinks they smell awful. It's gotta be really bad BO to bother me half as much as fake smells.

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                • Originally posted by Jenny View Post
                  Nobody said it was. Cromwell himself (Puritan) promoted the Self-Denying Ordinance. They wrote and preached plenty on the topic of denying themselves.
                  Exactly. There seems to be a lot of self-denial running through veganism. So many seem to be trying to deny their humanity.
                  Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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                  • Originally posted by Enamel View Post
                    People are free to smell how they want, but goddamn, I hate fragrances. They're almost always overpowering, and it's hard to enjoy being around a person when their smell is giving you a headache. I prefer BO, even if the person thinks they smell awful. It's gotta be really bad BO to bother me half as much as fake smells.
                    Up to a point, yes. We had to institute a "no perfume" policy at my old office, mainly because one woman would wear so much that you could still smell it hours after she left the room.
                    Buy house, Demolish house, Build house.

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                    • I have to buy a second freezer because I need room for our half of the cow that arrived yesterday. This is only sort of a gripe because I do have a whole side of beef, but it's currently mostly in my mother-in-law's freezer.
                      “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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                      • Yeah, someone's BO has never given me an allergy-induced asthma attack....people just ought to be sensible enough not to douse themselves in fragrances. Pretty bad when you need to leave a store because someone is wearing so much crap that you can't breathe....and it permeates each aisle. The other day I was in line at the pharmacy and a woman in front of me grabbed a cologne tester and not only doused herself...she sprayed me right in the face with the crap.

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                        • No sleep! Not one lousy hour. I hate insomnia.
                          This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

                          Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
                          Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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                          • Originally posted by kenn View Post
                            Used to be preferred over beer, dropped dramatically around 1840s, probably related to the massive influx of German immigrants (largest group in usa)

                            Additionally, soft drinks targeted the same market as cider growers

                            Prohibition killed 1400+ breweries & ruined all the recipes for beer in mainstream beers

                            Hard Cider's Mysterious Demise
                            Hard cider seems to be making a comeback here. There are 2 ciderworks in Virginia - Albemarle Ciderworks Albemarle CiderWorks and Foggy Ridge Foggy Ridge Cider: Welcome - there may be others, but these are the only ones I'm familiar with. I have had the cider from Albemarle and it's good. Then we have Woodchuck Cider, which I like. According to cider history, John Adams used to drink a tankard at breakfast.

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                            • Originally posted by geostump View Post
                              How it works is #1 You must be a registered voter. They only pull from the registry of those that vote. #2 You get a letter in the mail explaining you were picked, when and where to show up and that you must call the night before the interview/trial starts. #3 At the courthouse you are in the courtroom and they ask general questions, depending on the type of case that is being tried. Basically if you seem to have any knowledge in any of the areas that are being tried, you are sent home. They want what basically an empty mind, someone who can be "non-biased." And yes, you can be called back but it would be for a different case and then the process starts all over again.
                              Where I live they use drivers licenses for the jury pool. So if you're a driver, you can get called. Last time I misplaced my summons and had to call and I found out that my pool had already been unused. So then you're off for a year.

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                              • I was supposed to receive something rather critical (a job offer) by FedEx on Saturday. Either the mailing party forgot to note it for Saturday delivery, or FedEx flubbed it. There's a drug test in there I need to take. That's kinda time sensitive...
                                Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, steak in one hand, chocolate in the other, yelling "Holy F***, What a Ride!"
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