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    I'm a bit sad tonight. I am sure I am loosing weight....I am certainly loosing inches, either that or my clothes are growing in the wardrobe overnight!

    BUT I have been doing this for one week and I watched some friends scarf down some chocolate bars today and I realised that this is it, I will never be able to enjoy a doughnut again. Does this pass, do you finally not care? Or does one just have to console oneself with the thought that at least you are healthy.

    Kit in NZ
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  • #2
    why not? once you reach you desired body composition you can eat what ever you want.
    ( by then you should know what too much is)

    don't forget about the 20% in the 80/20 concept.

    now you don't have to be sad anymore
    We need to have a global discussion about the epidemic of donut murder

    Starting Weight: 238 lb
    Current Weight: 224 lb
    Goal: 190-200 lb
    Height: 6'-0"
    Age: 27

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    • #3
      I, for one, never plan to eat that sort of thing ever again! It all looks really gross to me, now that I know how much better I feel without it.

      The cravings will pass!!!
      ~Rhonda

      "Do or do not do, there is no try" - Yoda

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      • #4
        Firstly, no-one is saying you can never have a donut again. If you really really want one then have one occasionally, know that it is a crappy food decision that does only bad things for your body but enjoy it if you must and own it.
        Secondly, you do get to the stage where you just don't care. I could watch someone eat a whole box of donuts and all I'd be thinking about is the trans-fats and sugar and how bloody awful I'd feel later if I ate one. It's not a consolation, I simply have no desire to put that shit in my mouth.
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        • #5
          I am much more selective about when and what I choose to indulge in, but I certainly still eat the occasional crazy bad food

          After you are eating PB for a while, your tastes will change enough that you won't really want those foods the majority of the time. I was a total carb junky and after being primal for 5 months just said no to some homemade brownies yesterday without even thinking about it - just wasn't interested. However, when there is an occasion where I want to eat something like that I do it. No guilt. No problems. Just give it a little time, you'll find the balance that works for you.

          It really is almost like having your cake and eating it too
          Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vozz View Post
            why not? once you reach you desired body composition you can eat what ever you want.
            ( by then you should know what too much is)

            don't forget about the 20% in the 80/20 concept.
            I don't mean to offend, but I think you've kinda missed the whole point of the PB. This is not a diet that you give up once you've reached your "desired body composition." Firstly, how the hell do you expect to keep that composition if you just go back to eating shit? Secondly, we're in this to be healthier than the average misguided Joe on the street aren't we? That's why I'm here. How can you learn all about what the SAD does to your body and then plan to go back to it once you've lost weight?? That makes zero sense to me.

            Also, read this...
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ng-(semi-rant)

            as a reminder of what the 80/20 principle is supposed to be about.. Hint, it's not so you can plan to eat shit 20% of the time.
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            • #7
              Thanks folks. I really do want to loose weight, so I am being very good. Its good to know, however, that your tastes do finally change and you don't crave that stuff anymore. I have been a slave to cravings so I would be glad to see the back of them, but still........
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              • #8
                its true, its your first week. over time, you will notice that you begin to look at food differently.
                donuts, most likely, just wont be appealing.
                neither will cake, I just think about the inevitable sugar crash and head ache when i see sweets.
                i would much rather just eat some nice meat.
                We need to have a global discussion about the epidemic of donut murder

                Starting Weight: 238 lb
                Current Weight: 224 lb
                Goal: 190-200 lb
                Height: 6'-0"
                Age: 27

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                • #9
                  After you don't eat sugar for a while, if you do try to eat some it tastes really gross. Of course, you can always *train* yourself to like it again, but that's not a great idea.

                  It does pass. And when there is so, so much GOOD food in the world to eat, the idea of passing up a doughnut or a chocolate bar isn't that horrible. Doughnut or fresh picked strawberries? I'll take the strawberries every time.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NourishedEm View Post
                    I don't mean to offend, but I think you've kinda missed the whole point of the PB. This is not a diet that you give up once you've reached your "desired body composition." Firstly, how the hell do you expect to keep that composition if you just go back to eating shit? Secondly, we're in this to be healthier than the average misguided Joe on the street aren't we? That's why I'm here. How can you learn all about what the SAD does to your body and then plan to go back to it once you've lost weight?? That makes zero sense to me.

                    Also, read this...
                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ng-(semi-rant)

                    as a reminder of what the 80/20 principle is supposed to be about.. Hint, it's not so you can plan to eat shit 20% of the time.
                    i think you missed my point.
                    i am saying that once you get there you can eat one if you want to. one donut is not going to kill you and make your gut explode over night.
                    so if you are at a birthday party and you wanna take part in the social activity of eating the birthday cake, you can with out hating on your self and feeling guilt.
                    We need to have a global discussion about the epidemic of donut murder

                    Starting Weight: 238 lb
                    Current Weight: 224 lb
                    Goal: 190-200 lb
                    Height: 6'-0"
                    Age: 27

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Vozz View Post
                      i think you missed my point.
                      i am saying that once you get there you can eat one if you want to. one donut is not going to kill you and make your gut explode over night.
                      so if you are at a birthday party and you wanna take part in the social activity of eating the birthday cake, you can with out hating on your self and feeling guilt.
                      If that's the case then I apologise, I just got caught up on "once you reach your desired body composition, you can eat whatever you want."
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                      • #12
                        my clause was in the brackets, i guess i should have elaborated
                        We need to have a global discussion about the epidemic of donut murder

                        Starting Weight: 238 lb
                        Current Weight: 224 lb
                        Goal: 190-200 lb
                        Height: 6'-0"
                        Age: 27

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                        • #13
                          Donuts are delicious. Theyre probably my favorite food. And yes I'm primal. I don't think anyone ever loses all their desire for unhealthy food. But most people doing this better recognize what eating it does to their body. Why just the other day I messed up and had a bowl of raisin bran, and I was farting the rest of the night. Stinky ones too, the kind I used to blame on the dog. It never occurred to me that I was farting more on an regular diet and less than on a primal one. But after messing up once, now I know. And people will give you tons of other examples like this.

                          Think of it this way, if you took a bite and spat it out, would you be satiated? Probably not. So its obviously not the taste you want to eat it for. Its some deeper issue, maybe feeling left out, or hungry, or a need to be validated. Who knows. Make an effort to try and enjoy primal food more too. You probably have alot of memories of hanging out with the guys drinking soda and gobbing the doritoes. So you need to start celebrating with the primal foods, like that time you made avacodo devil eggs topped with bacon for that one thing.

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                          • #14
                            Good point on celebrating with primal foods. What used to be a time for pizza is now a time for throwing deer steaks on a fire, or having a chili competition.

                            Foods I used to think I could never give up look like filler to me know. Having said that, I end up eating a grain product occasionally, and the instant gratification is always followed by hours of feeling said grain product sliding through my digestive tract, and my day ends with me being swollen with gas as well.

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                            • #15
                              Kit this is not a prison, it's about choices and once in a while you can chose to do otherwise and it will not kill you. For instance the next time I go to New Orleans, you bet I will eat the beignets at Cafe du Monde!

                              And, although some do, not everybody " gets sick" after falling off the wagon, either. I had 2 large pieces of amazing Tres Leches Cake this past Sunday with no ill effects...on Monday I was back on track.

                              The rest of the time, on a daily basis you can celebrate those foods that you ate with fear, concern or guilt:
                              Red meat
                              Bacon
                              Crispy chicken skin
                              Cream
                              Butter
                              Pork cracklings
                              Avocado
                              Last edited by Adrianag; 01-28-2011, 02:09 AM.

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