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    Last edited by ptmegan; 01-08-2012, 08:50 PM.

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    Are you seeing a regular doctor?
    If you are, I would recommend seeing a obstetrician, gynecologist, or a reproductive endocrinologist. They might be better at giving you advice about what to do.

    I lost a pregnancy due to low progesterone. You can take synthetic progesterone (pills) to support the baby and avoid miscarriage. I'm surprised you doctor hasn't advised that...

    I'm not sure about low progesterone being influenced by diet (I'm not saying it isn't, I just don't know). I do know that in my experience, I had low progesterone and my general practitioner attributed it to PCOS. My gynecologist attributes it to a result of the hormonal mess caused be hypothalamic amenorrhea.

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    • #3
      i also lost a pregnancy due to low progesterone.

      all of my bloodwork (after) was "within normal ranges" but my fertility charting (using Katie Singer's Garden of Fertility) clearly showed a low progesterone issue. Following my intuition, my own research regarding diet/etc, and some insight from Susun Weed's book Wild Woman Herbal for the Child Bearing Years, i was able to get "textbook perfect" cycles, and my next pregnancy was no problem. My son is now two, and we currently have no interest in having another.

      While others might have different and/or more severe issues, there are many methods that you can utilize once you are pregnant if the progesterone is still low. many doctors can help with this side of things, if it gets to that.

      good luck!

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      • #4
        I too am surprised your dr. isn't giving you progesterone supp. I had to take them with my 1st pregnancy for that same reason. That child is now a 6 1/2 year old wonderful little boy. With my 2nd child I was on it for only 2 weeks and progesterone went up on its own. This 3rd pregnancy I went primal 2 months before conceiving. Going primal makes you fertile and I have had no progesterone issues whatsoever, no need for supplementation. So, stick primal and it will correct itself, but in the meantime because you are preggo I would ask the dr. about supps. People get so wierd about it, supping Progesterone is totally different from miscarrying from genetic defects, nothing can stop miscarrying from genetic defects. Progesterone after week 10 is then taken over by your placenta instead of you, so after the 10 week mark your progesterone would go up.

        Sorry didn't mean to jam that all in but I hope it makes sense.
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        • #5
          katie singer's book actually describes how primal makes you more fertile, too, and how to balance the hormones.

          and i think the doctor might just let the first pregnancy ride out. more than 50% of first pregnancies end in miscarriage, so this is not a sign of infertility really. it's practically "normal." the doctor may be letting this run it's course, then see where she stands once the cycle is back in order.

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          • #6
            I would say that it is (unfortunately) very much a "wait and see" issue. Hopefully the progesterone will rise (or the doctor will supplement) soon but I imagine that your doctor has reasons not to supplement right now. I can imagine how difficult this is for you and can only send as many positive vibes as I can and keep my fingers crossed.

            Good luck!!!!
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            • #7
              I lost several pregnancies (with a different OB) due to low progesterone (I beleive). The next OBGYN I saw (who was the cheif of obs at the hosp) took a look at my past labs, and he guessed what was going on, so he perscribed a low dose of progesterone and suggested I buy some baby asprin (prevents blood clotting, which is another factor that could be at work). He said the next time I peed positive, to start taking the asprin and Rx.

              No more baby loss. I did that with both of my girls, and I carried to term with both.

              I had PCOS by the way, which majorly messes with your hormones. Eating a proper, healthy diet will help balance them out, in my case I was able to start to even get pregnant naturally by going low carb (we tried for 10 years).

              The HCG can continue to raise in a chemical pregnancy, which, there is no baby in there, just the sac and your body is still thinking that you were pregnant so it continues to grow until your body figures out whats going on.
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              • #8
                If you wish to, you can use an over-the-counter Progesterone cream (I use Pro-gest). Used as directed, it can provide a physiological dose of Progesterone. If the pregnancy isn't viable, Progesterone will not help, of course.

                Going Primal helps with hormone balance. So does making sure you have good mineral balance. Also, make sure you are sufficient in Vitamin D--it's a hormone pre-cursor and many women are deficient. Here's an article on the topic.
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                • #9
                  zoebird, did you just follow the herbal recommendations(along with Primal eating) to regulate your cycle?

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                    Last edited by ptmegan; 01-08-2012, 08:50 PM.

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                    • #11
                      NDF:

                      honestly, when i healed the cycle, i was ovo-lacto vegetarian following WAPF advice plus the stuff in susun weed. i was vegan when i lost the pregnancy (i wasn't trying, so we felt relieved) and started charting. at the time, i cut soy, transfats and chemicals of all kinds. I added in certain herbs, and then just increased my fat via coconut oil, avocados and avocado oil, flax oil, and then added in eggs and raw dairy. I also did cold water rinses in the shower, got more sleep, and did specific yoga poses prescribed for what my specific needs were.

                      everyone, though, is different, so i can't say that the yoga poses will be right for you or which herbs to take, etc. it's really about your own intuitive process too. But katie singer explains how the WAPF perspective on fat (which we primal's share) helps facilitate fertility.

                      anyway, that's my story on this.

                      ptmegan:

                      it will work out. the books will provide some great tools that you can use to balance everything out, or seek more intensive (medical) help if necessary.

                      in regard to the pill, definitely give yourself more time. and now -- if you do miscarry -- even more time. were i you (and i note that i am not), i would focus on getting a "textbook" cycle over the next year. what you may observe is that you'll have several "perfect" cycles and then a couple messed up ones, and then a number of good ones again, etc. until, eventually, more are "textbook" than not.

                      for me, that's when i felt more comfortable "trying" because i was less likely to conceive when i might be more likely to have a 'bum' cycle that month. KWIM?

                      everything will work out, truly. you are in a good place right now -- a place where you can get knowledge, heal, and prepare your body for a good, healthy pregnancy. seriously, my pregnancy was awesome. good health and a strong cycle helped -- i just know it.

                      if you have any other specific questions, please don't hesitate to ask!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                        NDF:

                        honestly, when i healed the cycle, i was ovo-lacto vegetarian following WAPF advice plus the stuff in susun weed. i was vegan when i lost the pregnancy (i wasn't trying, so we felt relieved) and started charting. at the time, i cut soy, transfats and chemicals of all kinds. I added in certain herbs, and then just increased my fat via coconut oil, avocados and avocado oil, flax oil, and then added in eggs and raw dairy. I also did cold water rinses in the shower, got more sleep, and did specific yoga poses prescribed for what my specific needs were.
                        How/where did you learn about yoga poses specific to your needs?

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                        • #13
                          well, i have studied yoga for a long time, and at that time, i'd been teaching about 5 years, and so i did some research and did the postures that came up from that research. because i know the proper alignment already, i didn't have as much work as a beginner would have, to be honest.

                          and, it's far more complex than "thyroid issues, do these postures." because some of those postures could work against you, specifically, but be great for someone else.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                            well, i have studied yoga for a long time, and at that time, i'd been teaching about 5 years, and so i did some research and did the postures that came up from that research. because i know the proper alignment already, i didn't have as much work as a beginner would have, to be honest.

                            and, it's far more complex than "thyroid issues, do these postures." because some of those postures could work against you, specifically, but be great for someone else.
                            Interesting!
                            I wasn't even aware that yoga poses could be beneficial for fertility.

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                            • #15
                              well, yoga postures are akin to things like qi gung and tai chi, which are part of the healing arts in traditional chinese medicine. in TCM, the largest focus is on moving energy -- keeping it freely moving through the system. acupuncture is one of the methods, as is cupping, and so also qi gung. the movements of qi gung move the energy through the body in specific ways, and are, therefore, healing.

                              yoga is basically the same. ayurveda is the traditional medicine of the indus valley, and like TCM, it deals with all aspects of the being. in ayurveda, they have multiple massage techniques and work similar to acupressure, and then there is also yoga postures. these postures have physical, energetic, and spiritual resonances, and can be worked in different ways to produce specific outcomes.

                              the modern, general yoga class is -- in general -- a beginner class focused at aligning the body and healing the tightnesses that our western lifestyle creates. it is great for overall health and wellbeing, but doesn't (necessarily) go to the specialized applications or various uses of the practice (including the spiritual ones, beyond helping to calm and steady the mind). this is not a criticism of the yoga classes we find in the west, it is simply an observation of how yoga is applied in different contexts.

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