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    Hi All,

    I was curious of anyone here had a dandruff problem at one time or another and how you went about taking care of it? I thought possible not using shampoo anymore would help but that doesn't seem to have solved the problem (been about a month now). Any have other ideas?

    Thanks in advance!
    Drifter

  • #2
    I haven't had dandruff at all since going primal. Even before primal, I realized my occasional bouts of it seemed to correlate with carb intake...if I had a sugar binge, my scalp would go itchy and flaky and then take forever to calm down again. I often wondered if it's a yeast-y kinda thing.

    How primal are you and for how long?
    Liz.

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    • #3
      My son had problem until he quit the bad carbs and started primal. A daily shampoo followed by a white vinegar rinse is good (1/4 c in pint of water-- add a couple drops lavendar oil for nice smell, and it is antimicrobial); but if the dandruff is really bad try Nizarol shampoo for a few weeks.
      This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

      Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
      Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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      • #4
        Had a problem in the past w/ dandruff, especially in winter, especially while wearing a dark blazer.

        This winter, no evidence. Primal and without any shampoo (or vinegar or baking soda..just h2o) since August.

        The big no poo, no soap experiment is about to get its big test. getting on a plane from home in Alaska headed for hawaii for 2 weeks.

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        • #5
          I am still struggling with it myself. I thought it was carb related in the past as it would come and go (have been off and on low carb, gluten free for 5 years), but being VERY primal and consistent low carb for 8-9 months now has seen no change. I did no poo for about 6 months and my scalp just got worse and worse. I tried different combos, tea tree oils, more scrubbing, less, everything. I finally had to go back on a medicated shampoo so I could be seen in public. I am down to only washing every other day, but that is the most I can push it.

          I have done dairy experiments before in the past, but nothing for longer then a couple weeks usually. So I went off dairy 100% as of 1/1, including butter which I usually don't eliminate. I am not going to change my hair regime yet and see if it improves. If not, I am going to have to hit the research again and figure it out.
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          • #6
            Many times it is fungal/yeast related. You can tell by smelling the flakes. They will smell yeasty if that is the case. I would recommend a good probiotic. Also, I have been helped by applying apple cider vinegar to the scalp with a squeeze bottle (undiluted) and letting it soak while I wash, shave, etc. in the shower. Then I shampoo it out with an organic shampoo. That keeps it at bay but doesn't totally get rid of it in my experience. I've also been putting coconut oil on my scalp and letting it sit for awhile. That seems to help a lot.

            Some people are helped by going "poo-less" and some aren't. I'm guessing that when that works it might be more related to dry scalp and irritation from chemicals in the "product".
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Meadow View Post
              I am still struggling with it myself. I thought it was carb related in the past as it would come and go (have been off and on low carb, gluten free for 5 years), but being VERY primal and consistent low carb for 8-9 months now has seen no change. I did no poo for about 6 months and my scalp just got worse and worse. I tried different combos, tea tree oils, more scrubbing, less, everything. I finally had to go back on a medicated shampoo so I could be seen in public. I am down to only washing every other day, but that is the most I can push it.

              I have done dairy experiments before in the past, but nothing for longer then a couple weeks usually. So I went off dairy 100% as of 1/1, including butter which I usually don't eliminate. I am not going to change my hair regime yet and see if it improves. If not, I am going to have to hit the research again and figure it out.
              How's your vitamin D? I struggled with flaky eczema for years until I started supplementing to sufficiency.
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              • #8
                Wash your hair with baking soda.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
                  How's your vitamin D? I struggled with flaky eczema for years until I started supplementing to sufficiency.
                  I am taking 5000 iu a day right now, and my last test in May wasn't too bad and I was on a lower dose then. Also take a decent dose of fish oil.

                  I did mostly baking soda and ACV when I was 'no poo', but I later tried other recommendations when I continued to have problems....white vinegar, skipping the baking soda and just doing vinegar rinses, doing a natural conditioner rinse only, and various essential oil combos. I did coconut oil on my scalp a couple of times overnight when it was really bad, but I did not do an extended treatment test with that.

                  To be honest it is better while strict low carb, just cannot shake it 100%. If my recent diet adjustments don't resolve it, I will try a new topical regime.
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                  • #10
                    Zinc + @ 1000 mg Vitamin C can be big help, and for eczema.
                    This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

                    Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
                    Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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                    • #11
                      Drifter, how long have you been eating Primal? One of the unexpected bonuses for me was that the seborrhoeic dermatitis I'd had since my teenage years went away after a few months. (SD = oiliness and massive violently itchy dandruff, sometimes until the scalp bleeds, causing hair loss, spreading down behind the ears, into the eyebrows and the sides of the nose - and I'm pretty sure it caused the fungal skin infections down my back, too.)

                      Before that, though, I'd learned how to keep things under control (ie not to be a walking snowstorm). The main thing: using the mildest shampoos available from the health food shop, definitely no medicated or anti-dandruff shampoo. I reckon it was obsessive use of anti-dandruff shampoo as a paranoid teenager that started the whole downward spiral; certainly the stuff recommended by drs and pharmacists - like coal-tar shampoo - caused big flare-ups.

                      Also: essential oil massage is good occasionally (used to be weekly), with a base of eg almond with 10% jojoba, and essential oils of rosemary, lavender, tea tree, Roman chamomile... whatever seemed best to treat whatever my scalp was doing at the time. Leave on and keep warm for an hour or so, then wash. And dilute cider vinegar rinses - maybe with a few more drops of essential oil - after washing. This - plus a damp toothbrush to clear the eyebrows! - worked OK.

                      But it's only post-Primal that (after some 24 years) I no longer have flaking eyebrows. So... maybe it'll just go away for you, too. It's good when it does .
                      Last edited by Hilary; 01-09-2011, 05:16 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I had dandruff from age 11 to age 24... since going primal, not at all!
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                        • #13
                          Ugh, winter wreaks havoc on dry scalps. Try switching out your shampoo for conditioner only. I only use Suave Coconut Conditioner in winter. After you wet your hair in the shower, load up your hair and scalp with as much as it will hold, then put it up in a clip (if you have long hair). Let it soak in while you do the rest of you shower stuff. Rinse with cold water right before you get out. Works wonders. If you need even more moisture, put it in an hour or so before you shower and wear a shower cap. You can do this with just straight coconut oil, too, but I find it's too heavy for my hair and leaves me looking a little greasy even after I rinse it out.

                          If your problem isn't dry skin but yeast related, make sure you're getting enough Vitamin D, take a probiotic, and apple cider vinegar rinses when you shower.

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