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    If one had the urge to live off the land in the way our pre-agricultural ancestors did, how would they go about doing it? Where can one learn how to hunt, build fires, survive in the wilderness, and live a simple life in nature? I sometimes get fed up with my modern cubicle-apartment existence and have daydreams about doing this, but I wouldn't know where to start.

  • #2
    Google "survivalism" and "outdoor skills" - there are a ton of blogs out there. There are also "wilderness survival courses" you can sign up for across the country - most tend to be in the midwest (assuming you're in the USA). But be aware that surviving outdoors is not the same as thriving outdoors. In the middle of winter a cubicle and apartment would look really good.
    carl's cave

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    • #3
      there are plenty of books and guides for you out there, but nothing is going to beat immersion. get outside, find/build a shelter, and go kill some stuff. grok didn't have anything to help him out, he just went out and did it.
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60178.html

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      • #4
        I'd have to disagree with that last part primalrob. Grok was brought up in a community where he learned how to live an outdoor existence from his parents and tribal elders. He didn't go from being a cubicle jockey straight out into the wilderness with no guidance at all.

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        • #5
          There are lots of available resources to help learn how to be self sufficient. But if you want to live a migrant life living off of the land, I think you will find laws about stuff like property rights, hunting and fishing regulations etc... will get in the way!
          @primalrob "grok didn't have anything to help him out, he just went out and did it. " I think humans have always been tribe/pact animals and Grok would have had "training" in the necessary skills growing up.

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          • #6
            true, he didn't come straight out of an office, but somewhere in the grok timeline people had to learn to do these things. my point is that there is no replacement for experience and trial and error. i can read about building a shelter, or i can go build one...then after it rains i can build a better one.

            a little research, however, would be beneficial in learning what plants should and should not be eaten. i suppose watching animals is the way to learn that the old way, but better safe than dead.
            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread60178.html

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            • #7
              You might also want to google "primitive technology" that will teach you about how to make stone tools, and cording, hunting bows, and things like that- I've always considered it one step beyond "outdoor/survival/bushcraft skills"

              And for food and medicine, look up wildcrafting.


              Robin's Roost
              My Primal Journal

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              • #8
                "I think humans have always been tribe/pact animals and Grok would have had "training" in the necessary skills growing up."

                Yes, I agree, and what I'm really interested in finding is a group or community where the people live this way and are open to accepting outsiders.

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                • #9
                  watch tom hank's castaway. that'll give u a little inspiration

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by primalrob View Post
                    true, he didn't come straight out of an office, but somewhere in the grok timeline people had to learn to do these things. my point is that there is no replacement for experience and trial and error. i can read about building a shelter, or i can go build one...then after it rains i can build a better one.

                    a little research, however, would be beneficial in learning what plants should and should not be eaten. i suppose watching animals is the way to learn that the old way, but better safe than dead.
                    The evolutionary model would reinforce the importance of learning from elders and looking back at what has worked. The stuff that didn't work typically didn't have the elder practitioner around to pass along the knowledge

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by abroder View Post
                      I'd have to disagree with that last part primalrob. Grok was brought up in a community where he learned how to live an outdoor existence from his parents and tribal elders. He didn't go from being a cubicle jockey straight out into the wilderness with no guidance at all.
                      It's like when animal liberationists think they caged birds will be happy and free when they let them loose. Most of the time, the birds just die because they have no experience living in the wild. Obviously a human would have the brainpower to survive (usually), but yeah, Grok's mom and dad probably taught him what he needed to know about living in the wild.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by earthspirit View Post
                        watch tom hank's castaway. that'll give u a little inspiration
                        Also watch Into the Wild - a great film about a stupid, stupid idealistic kid who thought he could avoid cubicles and apartments with no practical training.

                        But then also watch Alone in the Wilderness - a great film about a brilliant man who actually did know how to live in the wild.
                        carl's cave

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by abroder View Post
                          "I think humans have always been tribe/pact animals and Grok would have had "training" in the necessary skills growing up."

                          Yes, I agree, and what I'm really interested in finding is a group or community where the people live this way and are open to accepting outsiders.
                          Looking for a group of people? Google "rewilding" or "rewilders" they are out there, I promise.


                          Robin's Roost
                          My Primal Journal

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                          • #14
                            Welcome to my world.

                            You really need someone to show you around. Doing it on your own can lead to problems, like---should I eat those Jerusalem artichoke tubers or is it the poisonous look-alike?


                            Doesn't hurt at all to start with some books, web-sites, etc..

                            Some of my favorite groups can be found through the following links.

                            http://www.tribaltek.org/lifeskills.html

                            http://www.nativetech.org/

                            http://www.survivaltopics.com/

                            http://www.the-outdoor-sports-advisor.com/

                            http://www.the-outdoor-sports-adviso...endezvous.html

                            There are many books but the best in my opinion is the 1911 (original) Boy Scout Manual. You can get a reprint for a few bucks at any Scout shop. http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/...rs_per_page=15


                            Boy Scout merit badge books are great too. I used them to home school my kids for educational purposes---along with other books used for legal purposes that unfortunately didn't do much for education. The merit badge books will get you started and let you learn the kind of questions to ask.

                            For gaining knowledge and skill, get into a primitive skills re-enactment group. Good for social contacts too with like minded people.

                            See you in the woods.
                            Tayatha om bekandze

                            Bekandze maha bekandze

                            Randza samu gate soha

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                            • #15
                              Take one of Cody Lundin's courses. He IS Grok! lol

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