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    I've been on the pill for a good seven years now. I am sick to death of having to remember a pill at the same time every day, and am considering something like the IUD. Was wondering what insights y'all might have regarding birth control in general, and whether certain kinds go better with Primal living. I am not willing to do NFP, as that seems like even more work and hassle than the pill. Any Grokettes out there with an IUD? Thanks for any info!

  • #2
    There are indeed some. Hang in there.

    Condoms?

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    • #3
      I'm on depo. Have been for 10 years or so now. I'd recently started looking into IUDs and decided against it. Mirena is just like depo only the progestin is localized rather than injected, which takes less time to leave your system if you want to get pregnant. Like depo, you may get silent periods. Paraguard, the copper IUD works by causing an inflammation response in your body. A lot of what I've read about it, you can end up with heavy bleeding or constant spotting. It didn't sound like a good time at all.

      For now, I'm happy on depo until I decide to have kids. After that, I may do Mirena since it's easier on women who have had children versus those who haven't. I don't like having synthetic hormones in my body, but it beats the alternative, to me at least. I don't want to deal with periods and want birth control I really don't have to think about.

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      • #4
        i'm sorry that I don't have more insight. we use a combination of NFP and condoms, and once it's learned, it's not that much effort (for us). i've been doing it for about 7-8 years now, so it's old hat. I don't even do the temps anymore, just the other two. i'm pretty reliable, so i'm not that worried about it, and we use a back up if we feel that it's "close to" something.

        but, because we are unsure as to whether or not we want more children (both of us are leaning heavily toward just staying with one), we are loosely talking about sterilization. it would be DH who goes through it, and i am actually emotionally opposed to either of us being sterilized, but, like you, we don't really want to "think" about the birth control, we just want to have it. ah well.

        decisions, decisions. i'm not comfortable with any chemical birth control, or an IUD, or sterilizing myself.

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        • #5
          I had the Copper T for 5 years. LOVED it. Got pregnant (intentionally) the same day it was removed.

          If I was doing it now, I'd go for the Mirena just for the chance of fewer/lighter periods (though mine weren't heavier than normal on the Copper T). Though my dermatologist just told me that a side effect is acne, which I'm prone to anyway.

          Thankfully, I don't have to do anything now, because I'm using my very favorite form of contraception: a vasectomy
          Liz.

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          • #6
            Something to keep in mind if you choose to use an IUD and later decide to get pregnant--occasionally IUDs can create uterine scarring that can impede implantation of the fertilized egg or cervical scarring that can prevent the cervix from dilating without external intervention (evening primrose oil and/or manual cervical dilation.) In our small town of 10,000, I've already coached 2 women with cervical scarring that impacted their labors adversely.
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            • #7
              NFP isn't much work or hassle at all, and I find it very comforting. I don't trust other forms of BC, lol.


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              • #8
                I had Mirena for several years and it was worry free and problem free for me. I'm surprised to hear that someone thinks it causes acne flares. I have had horrible problems with acne in the past and had no problems in that department. Progesterone usually helps acne I thought and since it's only local seems like it wouldn't make much difference either way. My periods were light and painless. At the time, I was looking for something that was very effective, not a lot of trouble and with a minimum of hormones and chemicals. It fit these criteria.
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                • #9
                  This is why I have found MDA forums to be the very best ever! Thanks so much to everyone for your helpful replies. I feel much more prepared to talk with my new OBGYN.

                  Honestly, I am intrigued by NFP. I have been a little scared off by the temperatures, mucous charting, and other terminology. I am not a very organized person (working on it!), so the idea of having to track anything over months and years is daunting. However, I am nervy about doing questionable things to my body, ESPECIALLY my reproductive system. We absolutely want kids, perhaps in the next two years. Does Depo Provera wear off quickly once we start trying to conceive? The IUD scarring thing is pretty scary, and no-way am I puttng something into my body that is designed to cause inflammation. Thanks for the info on that, Diana Rentata!

                  Herbwife Mama, and Zoebird, do you have any favorite resources for NFP help? Does it work best when you have a very regular cycle? I went on the pill when I was 18, and have had regular cycles. That is, unless I mess it up by skipping a pill. I've been spotting for two weeks since missing a pill two weeks in a row. Now I'm just starting my scheduled period. I guess I should be taking an iron supplement to make up for blood loss?

                  Much obliged again for the helpful replies. Here's a resource for y'all:

                  http://www.divacup.com I am about to order one of these. In addition to being tired of the pill I am sick to death of tampons. This thing seems much more hassle free, and best of all: no TRASH.

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                  • #10
                    I wouldn't do depo if you want kids within 2 years. I've heard several stories of it taking a long time to wear off.

                    My favorite book about fertility/birth control is Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler.

                    I don't think you need to take iron just because of two weeks of spotting. Took me about 10 years of very heavy periods to finally get anemic.
                    Liz.

                    Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
                    Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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                    • #11
                      i like Garden of Fertility by Katie Singer. It's much easier and more accessible and friendly than Taking Charge of your Fertility which is a massive tome. I do own both, but Garden of Fertility is my go-to book.

                      when i learned FAM (fertility awareness method), i learned:

                      1. when i was and wasn't fertile (which is the point, i guess);
                      2. how to "fix" my cycle, which i didn't even know was "broken" but it was, and i fixed it myself;
                      3. a lot of cool new things about my sexuality and it's connection to my fertility; and
                      4. how to chart my overall hormonal health and through this, my overall health.

                      so, i do recommend it to *everyone* who isn't on a chemical birth control because there is *so much* one learns about oneself through the process. *and* it works as birth control. LOL and, it makes it easy to know when to get sized for a cervical cap, too. and when to schedule your brazilian and all of that.

                      you don't have to have a regular cycle to do this. in fact, having a non-regular cycle helps you really observe and figure out the process quickly. and, take it seriously. LOL but what it also does, in the long term honestly, is help get your cycle to be regular. i know a lot of people who had "strange" cycles, only to discover via charting that while whatever hormones were in "normal ranges" or they had to use the pill to get a "regular cycle" can discover natural ways to heal and get a normal cycle. it's amazing really, to be honest. but, it's more "down the line" stuff. first step is just learning how to do it.

                      takes about 20 minutes to learn how to do it, and i just skipped ahead to that chapter first, then read the other materials as i was doing it day-by-day. and, you can start charting while still on the pill, and see how it rolls out for you, get yourself comfortable with the process, and then go off the pill and see how that goes.

                      as far as organization goes, you have to go with your strengths with this. for me, i'm not very good with time. i sort of "float" through my days. I'm good at being punctual, but i have to "give myself time" around things. it's rather interesting. but, i know myself in this regard. For me, it's easy to observe the cervical fluid and the cervical placement. but, the morning temperature stuff was tough.

                      but, my husband is really time oriented and loves measurements. he was in charge of taking my temperature every am at the same time. he wakes at the same time every day, and i have a plus/minus 30 minute window (that is, i tend to wake at 7:30 plus/minus 30 mins. LOL so, anytime between 7 and 8). this makes taking the temp difficult (to get an accurate reading), and so DH would take my temperature at 7:15 every morning and record it on the chart. He also liked to occasionally have a check of cervical placement too. Heh.

                      now, once i healed my cycle, and i was really comfortable with all of my signs, we were able to drop the temps (since i don't need them for any specific purpose) and i am clear about placement and fluid. since we use a back up form of bc anyway, it just makes us feel safer about it (particularly because we do not want another kiddo right now). so, there we are.

                      easy book to read. very accessible.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                        i like Garden of Fertility by Katie Singer. It's much easier and more accessible and friendly than Taking Charge of your Fertility which is a massive tome. I do own both, but Garden of Fertility is my go-to book.

                        when i learned FAM (fertility awareness method), i learned:

                        1. when i was and wasn't fertile (which is the point, i guess);
                        2. how to "fix" my cycle, which i didn't even know was "broken" but it was, and i fixed it myself;
                        3. a lot of cool new things about my sexuality and it's connection to my fertility; and
                        4. how to chart my overall hormonal health and through this, my overall health.

                        so, i do recommend it to *everyone* who isn't on a chemical birth control because there is *so much* one learns about oneself through the process. *and* it works as birth control. LOL and, it makes it easy to know when to get sized for a cervical cap, too. and when to schedule your brazilian and all of that.

                        you don't have to have a regular cycle to do this. in fact, having a non-regular cycle helps you really observe and figure out the process quickly. and, take it seriously. LOL but what it also does, in the long term honestly, is help get your cycle to be regular. i know a lot of people who had "strange" cycles, only to discover via charting that while whatever hormones were in "normal ranges" or they had to use the pill to get a "regular cycle" can discover natural ways to heal and get a normal cycle. it's amazing really, to be honest. but, it's more "down the line" stuff. first step is just learning how to do it.

                        takes about 20 minutes to learn how to do it, and i just skipped ahead to that chapter first, then read the other materials as i was doing it day-by-day. and, you can start charting while still on the pill, and see how it rolls out for you, get yourself comfortable with the process, and then go off the pill and see how that goes.

                        as far as organization goes, you have to go with your strengths with this. for me, i'm not very good with time. i sort of "float" through my days. I'm good at being punctual, but i have to "give myself time" around things. it's rather interesting. but, i know myself in this regard. For me, it's easy to observe the cervical fluid and the cervical placement. but, the morning temperature stuff was tough.

                        but, my husband is really time oriented and loves measurements. he was in charge of taking my temperature every am at the same time. he wakes at the same time every day, and i have a plus/minus 30 minute window (that is, i tend to wake at 7:30 plus/minus 30 mins. LOL so, anytime between 7 and 8). this makes taking the temp difficult (to get an accurate reading), and so DH would take my temperature at 7:15 every morning and record it on the chart. He also liked to occasionally have a check of cervical placement too. Heh.

                        now, once i healed my cycle, and i was really comfortable with all of my signs, we were able to drop the temps (since i don't need them for any specific purpose) and i am clear about placement and fluid. since we use a back up form of bc anyway, it just makes us feel safer about it (particularly because we do not want another kiddo right now). so, there we are.

                        easy book to read. very accessible.
                        I second the post above! I learned so much and when charting - I knew when I was pregnant even before I could take a HPT - just by looking at my chart and knowing when I ovulated and when we dtd. FAM/NFP helped me figured out initially that I was an-ovulatory, and with the help of a naturopath I re-aligned my cycle. I have a FAM/NFP app for my iphone and I use that to track my menses.
                        I just had sterilization done b/c I was done w/having kids, and didn't want to worry about an oops (Granted I had the essure procedure done back in june and it didn't work 100%, so I had to go in last week to have a tubal performed on the other side) I'll still use FAM to track my period b/c its nice to know what my body is doing - and it can also help your MW/OBGYN identify if you're having problems...
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                        • #13
                          zoebird pretty much said it all, right down to the book I was going to recommend.

                          Now that I know how, here's what I do: at every pee, I check CM, and in the morning, I temp*

                          (*Ok, not really, I just check CM right now, I'm trying to get back into the habit after pgcy. I use the charts in GOF, but for years I used Fertility Friends free services. It's really cool to go back and look at your averages and such.


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                          • #14
                            Have the paragard (copper iud) and love it. I tried NFP but made myself sick with anxiety. My periods on the paragard are not heavy or long (5 days of moderate flow) and I don't have cramps. No acne or weight gain either.

                            Prior to the paragard, I had the Mirena, which I also loved (period disappeared, no acne or weight gain).

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                            • #15
                              Currently I use the NuvaRing and I love it. I was having some nasty side effects from the pill and my Dr switched me to the NuvaRing. It has lower levels of hormones than the pill (says my Dr) and Ive had no side effects from it.
                              Not having to remember to take a pill each day is a huge benefit of the ring
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