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    Why am I still bloating???

    I'm talking the 4-month pregnant look for half a day, several times per week. Usually it occurs after I eat, but yesterday it happened on an empty stomach! I don't feel gassy or painful, though passing gas does relieve it, but that hard, distended abdomen is seriously annoying. I thought for a while that going primal (15 months ago) had cured this, but no such luck.

    I'm highly compliant -- 98% paleo (stricter than primal).

    I've tried going 100% dairy, grain, and legume free for a month. No dice.

    I've tried eating my veggies cooked, instead of raw. No dice. I've also experienced bloating when I've had a no-carb meal, so it's hard to blame veggies.

    I don't have any other IBS symptoms or known food intolerences. The bloating seems to happen after all different kinds of meals (rarely with an omelette-and-bacon type thing, though), large or small, and even once on an empty stomach.

    The bloating almost always occurs after breakfast or lunch, rarely dinner.

    It happens less frequently on weekends, which I suspect is due to the fact that I move around more than when I'm stuck at my office. I can try climbing up and down the stairwell a few times after eating, I guess...

    My top theories: Candida overgrowth and/or estrogen dominance. I've recently (5 weeks ago) gotten off the pill and added a natural progesterone cream, which should help on both counts, but the bloating hasn't disappeared. Maybe with more time?

    Other ideas???
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    I'm confused...how can you be 98% paleo if you only went dairy, grain, and legume-free for a month?
    Liz.

    Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
    Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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    • #3
      Oh, sorry. I meant that I went 100%, totally, absolutely clean for that month.

      I'm nomally 98% -- like I might use some soy sauce in a stir fry once every 2-3 weeks, or have some cheese/heavy cream once a week, or cook my eggs in butter.
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      • #4
        Ah, OK, got it.

        No clue on the bloating--it sounds like you've already ruled out the usual suspects.
        Liz.

        Zone diet on and off for several years....worked, but too much focus on exact meal composition
        Primal since July 2010...skinniest I've ever been and the least stressed about food

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        • #5
          Gut flora is out of whack. You need a good probiotic.

          I used to have this problem years ago, and my yoga teacher recommended a particular dried Japanese plum (comes in a bottle), to suck on one a day. By the time I was done with two bottles, I was cured. Sorry I don't remember the name! But I could take you directly to where it was located at Berkeley Bowl.
          Last edited by TigerLily; 12-03-2010, 08:23 AM. Reason: two bottles, not just one
          "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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          • #6
            Candida overgrowth is definitely a strong possibility. I agree on taking the probiotics and eating lots of coconut products if you aren't already.

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            • #7
              Thanks, tigerlily and saqueen -- I have just started a good probiotic, so maybe that'll help. I'm also using coconut oil and such to combat candida.

              I tried the probiotic yesterday morning on an empty stomach and was bloated until late afternoon, but google searches indicate that this is fairly common upon starting a probiotic. So, we shall see.

              It is likely that my gut flora is screwed up due to 3 years of veganism -- tons of "healthy whole grains" and legumes!! -- plus a couple years on the pill.
              Last edited by BarbeyGirl; 12-03-2010, 08:37 AM.
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              • #8
                HA! Found it! The plum is called Ume.
                Yes, this is it.
                "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                • #9
                  I also agree about the Candida.
                  I'm still working on this one.
                  "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." -- Hippocrates

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                  • #10
                    If it is related to gut flora maybe fermented foods (sauerkraut, kimchee, kefir, etc) would help.

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                    • #11
                      Barbey... I'm voting for gut flora too. I've had the exact same thing for the past few years. It sucks! I just started taking a much better probiotic this month as well as kicking a soda habit, so hopefully between the two I can get the flora back to par. I'll have to get coconut oil back into the regular daily mix-- it was for a while and then I haven't been so much lately. I look forward to any advice people offer because this has been a misery of mine for way too long.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TigerLily View Post
                        HA! Found it! The plum is called Ume.
                        Yes, this is it.
                        Awesome, I'll look into it. Thanks so much!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
                          If it is related to gut flora maybe fermented foods (sauerkraut, kimchee, kefir, etc) would help.
                          Good thought -- I've been pondering this. Kefir is out because I don't want to add dairy (beyond the occasional teaspoon of cream or butter). Am I correct that, for the fermented foods to be beneficial, I have to make my own?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BarbeyGirl View Post
                            Am I correct that, for the fermented foods to be beneficial, I have to make my own?
                            Not necessarily. My local grocery store has sauerkraut in the meat case that is actually fermented (at least I'm pretty sure it is; it contains no vinegar). It comes in a plastic bag. They also have kimchi in the refrigerated section that I KNOW is fermented; it tastes tangy, and makes my tongue kinda numb, almost like it has alcohol in it. And it bubbles, haha. I usually stick to the kraut just because it is so much cheaper though.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
                              Not necessarily. My local grocery store has sauerkraut in the meat case that is actually fermented (at least I'm pretty sure it is; it contains no vinegar). It comes in a plastic bag. They also have kimchi in the refrigerated section that I KNOW is fermented; it tastes tangy, and makes my tongue kinda numb, almost like it has alcohol in it. And it bubbles, haha. I usually stick to the kraut just because it is so much cheaper though.
                              Hmm, okay, thanks.

                              Hey tigerlily, do you remember the dosage on the ume plums? (If anyone else is googling on this, try "umeboshi," which seems to be the full name, as well.)
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