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    Hey there good Groks!

    I kinda need some help on how to deal with my craving for sugary stuff..
    Yesterday, I experienced some intense feeling all over my body which I believe was my body wanting sugar.

    So I went out and bought this healthy gluten-free, transfat-free bag of chips, along with a hot dog. But then I gave in and bought some buns with chocolate in it, ate it and the my body calmed down.

    Right now, I'm experiencing the same feeling, so I try to figure out what I can eat to stop the cravings.
    I got some nuts, ate it, but still the feeling is there.

    So do my fellow-Grokers have any good advices on how to deal with this irritating feeling?

    Fire away! (preferably as fast as you can, thanks!)

  • #2
    Futhark,

    Sorry to say, you are addicted and you will simply have to suffer through withdrawal symptoms for a few weeks. Just be strong for a few weeks and the urges will fade away.

    GRIN & BEAR IT. There are far worse addictions to quit.

    Best to you,
    Grizz

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    • #3
      The discomfort you speak of is either low blood glucose or high cortisol or both. When BG drops, the adrenals increase cortisol output to trigger burning fat for fuel. For some, this mechanism takes awhile to get up on running

      be sure you're getting plenty of protein (max 30% of cals), plenty of fat (50-65% per PB....75%'ish' if leaning toward PaNu and Hyperlipid)

      then wrt the sugar issues...

      1) sub primal starches for sugar: sweet potato, potato, yam, winter squash, parsnips, turnip, carrots etc in abundance when ever you're craving. once the sugar addiction is broken, reduce dependence on them, increase non-starchy produce.....30% *max* from protein, 20% max from carbs, 50%ish from protein. (though some do closer to 65%, or even 75-85% but that's not based on the PB as much as it is PaNu, Hyperlipid and a few others)

      2) or just go cold turkey and know that the discomfort will pass like it does with all addictions. Some of the discomfort is your body not being used to having to access alternative sources of energy as you usually keep feeding it carbs to keep blood glucose propped up. Now you won't be doing that. Your body will learn to use fat as a fuel - either fat from your food, or in case of a calorie deficit, fat from your stores.

      Anyway, in terms of breaking addictions:
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...8-quit-smoking
      Originally posted by SerialSinner
      @Trok: I smoked about 1.5 - 2 packs a day of Marlboro reds for like 10 years, so I can talk from a proper hardcore nicotine addict perspective. I haven't smoked in almost 3 years. No cravings or anything like that to date.

      Here is what worked for me:
      a) Make sure you are quitting, not "becasue you should", but because YOU want to.
      b) Pick a time when you won't be following your daily routine, like an international flight for vacations, for example. This will help you avoid the "doing x" with smoking psychological association.
      c) Once the time comes, quit. Notice I am not adding the word "try to". Decide that you will unequivocally quit and expect the worst. This is crucial as you wont be in a position when you are "trying to endure" the cravings. Picture that scene in trainspotting where the guy sees the baby crawling on the ceiling, and prepare to endure the worst. Notice I am not talking about fighting the cravings (where losing is by default a plausible scenario). Picture yourself in a beach, standing in front of a wave and preparing to get the hit. Just man-up and take it, it will be over soon.

      My two cents, hope it helps.



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      • #4
        Grizz: You are right about that. My kind of addiction is bearable if I put some will to it, so I will try doing that.

        cillakat: Thank you, thank you so much! I think I'll try to go cold turkey on this. I found some websites, like elena's pantry and primal palate, with recipes that doesn't include starch nor sugar, so I'll try to make some muffins or whatever this weekend, eat some and freeze some for later if the next wave comes back. I already got stevia-powder and coconut flour, so I have to make almond ground/flour with a coffee grinder instead of using wheat flour..

        30% protein, 20% carb and 50%fat, got it!
        Hey, I can go get some eggs and bacon and make an omelett with sardines and spinach leaves, or is it wrong to make something this big now?
        It's 07:40PM here in Oslo..

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        • #5
          Originally posted by futhark View Post
          Hey, I can go get some eggs and bacon and make an omelett with sardines and spinach leaves, or is it wrong to make something this big now?
          It's 07:40PM here in Oslo..
          Go ahead man! I would eat that at any time of the day OR night. There's never a wrong time to eat when you're eating nutritious and delicious.
          I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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          • #6
            Alright, I'll do it, iniQuity!
            Thank you so much!

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            • #7
              Picture of Futhark lusting after JUNK FOOD ;---) )



              Cheer up, my good man, things could be worse !
              So you cheered up and sure enough things got WORSE !

              Mark gives his advice on Sugar + Grain Addiction:
              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/your-brain-on-junk-food/

              Cheer up, we've all been there & done that. HEY, I've suffered through nicotine withdrawal and NOTHING is worse than that!

              Eat ALL YOU WANT from fish, meat, eggs, veggies. Nuts & fruits for snacks. PIG OUT on veggies

              Best to you,
              Grizz
              Last edited by Grizz; 11-05-2010, 11:59 AM.

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              • #8
                I'm also a huge former sugar junkie. Here are my thoughts, from personal experience only:

                1) I still eat more carbs than many (yams, fruit...). If I eat too much, I get sugar pangs.
                2) Sometimes I get cravings late at night, my old binging hour. Recently realized I'm actually dehydrated, which for some reason feels like sugarjones. Drink some water.
                3) Eat fat. For me, fat greek yogurt with some froze blueberries kills it dead.

                I was hardcore, and these really work for me. I've kept some leftover sodas in my fridge as a "test" for about 4 months now, and haven't so much as tasted them.

                Good luck!

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                • #9
                  Yes. You won't like it, but this is one you simply have to tough out. By eating the high-sugar stuff you have only guaranteed this will happen to you again and again and again.

                  This is like kicking an addiction to heroin. Treat it as such, and you'll do better.
                  Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                  Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                  Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                  My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                  • #10
                    Grizz: Yeah, you're right on that one! Im going to take a look on the link, but first I have to make this yummy omelet!
                    bUMbLeB: More water, got it! And I also got some frozen berries, so all I need is some fat greek yogurt. I'll get some tomorrow!
                    I really don't have the guts to get some sodas right now, so I'll stick to my water for now, if it's okay

                    By the way, is carbonated water/sparkling water okay in these times?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Griff View Post
                      Yes. You won't like it, but this is one you simply have to tough out. By eating the high-sugar stuff you have only guaranteed this will happen to you again and again and again.

                      This is like kicking an addiction to heroin. Treat it as such, and you'll do better.
                      Sure thing, Griff! I'll kick that addiction so hard with my fat, delicious omelet! hehe

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                      • #12
                        Julia Ross (author of The Diet Cure) recommends letting a capsule of L-Glutamine dissolve under your tongue so the glutamine can help fuel your brain through the period of low blood sugar. I've tried it and it does help. Argh how I hate, hate, hate sweets cravings. When I give in to carbs, they just rule me.

                        Good luck. Time really does fix this problem if you stick with it.

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                        • #13
                          I've just gotten pass the bad sugar cravings stage.... I still have slight sugar cravings though. I will admit that I will eat a piece of candy or two when they are really bad and it helps a bit, just so long as that won't send you over the top...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by futhark View Post
                            By the way, is carbonated water/sparkling water okay in these times?
                            YESSSS!!! Great point, I should have included that. With a splash of lemon/lime, it's all full of flavour - and weirdly, a tiny spritz of apple cider vinegar is also really good. Please DO NOT get some soda, they got left in my fridge after a party, so I just keep them as trophies, after I was already months into primal - don't tempt yourself!

                            Also, you can make cocao without adding sugar! Strange but true, and once you get past the strangeness you will like it, assuming you like chocolate things. I even made chocolate banana pancakes last night for a snack, and the only sugar was from the banana, and it was amazing. Let me know if you want the recipe.

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                            • #15
                              Yes, some good ideas here.

                              I also find that if I'm eating protein and fat and non-starchy veg, protein and fat and etc. and I start to crave something sweet, having a little bit of something sour like apple cider vinegar in water, or water with lemon juice, helps. Also having some kim chee or sauerkraut with the fat part of the meal helps.

                              I've even read that vinegar will slow the emptying of the stomach, and that lowers the insulin spike.

                              Yes, some glutamine in water is supposed to help sugar cravings. People trying to give up alcohol get a lot of help from glutamine.

                              You can watch over time, maybe keep a food diary and record your reaction to certain foods. There are foods I can't keep in the house because I find I just keep eating them. I'm having a little trouble with cheese and roasted filberts at the moment. If you find that you can't keep your hands off a certain food, then try eliminating it for awhile. Just keep it out of the house, and make sure you don't buy any when you are shopping. Years ago I realized (after many struggles) that I shouldn't ask my "inner child" to avoid eating something I shouldn't have, while leaving it in the house, within reach. This is cruelty to children. <LOL> It also never works.

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