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  • What's the consensus on NSAIDs?

    Just got back from the doctor because I came down with a brutal cold earlier this week (this first time sick since thanksgiving last year grrrrr). She clearly wasn't pleased when she learned I hadn't taken anything the last couple days, she told me to take an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen.

    Even before knowing about primal I was never much for things like NSAIDs. Isn't this short-term inflammation my immune response doing what it needs to do? As for the pain itself (ulcer in back of throat, swollen lymphs, sinus pressure behind eye and intermittent headaches), it's more than tolerable, and not interfering with sleep (that's my roommates' job).

    Long story short, how do you guys feel about taking an NSAID for something that looks like a moderate viral infection?

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    Huh? Why would a doctor be displeased because a patient has not taken a pain-relieving med. Whose pain is it?
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    • #3
      My theory has always ben "if you don't need it, don't take it." That being said, it depends on how high yor fever is and where the infection is. over 101- 102, you want to bring that down if it's not gone after 48 hrs (that's the timeline, think, google it if that's your case) or it can start royally messing stuff up. If it's trying to go into your chest and bronchial tubes, take other mods to get it out of there. Those can turn REALLY nasty if left unchecked (walking pneumonia, bronchitis).
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      • #4
        I've spent a year trying to recover from gastric irritation from too much Aleve (NSAIDs).

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        • #5
          According to the doctor I don't have a fever, I should have told her I woke up at 10:00 for the 10:15 appointment. I'll check again.

          Now as for keeping things out of my chest, you mean like an expectant?

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          • #6
            Expectorants and decongestants are my best friends during any cold or respiratory crap. Mucinex knockoffs and phenylephrine are my go- tos, along with any sinus pills I may need.
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            • #7
              Nasty. Don't they block the same enzyme that is responsible for gut repair and so drastically increase gut permeability? I steer clear of them.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by profdjj View Post
                I've spent a year trying to recover from gastric irritation from too much Aleve (NSAIDs).
                I know what you mean. We have Aleve over here (except the brand is Neurofen; though you can buy ibuprofen caps for almost pennies. This is why it's not a good idea to take ibuprofen on an empty stomach, always take it with food (I was told even taking it with liquid 'food', such as milk, rather than water is not a bad idea).

                Too much ibuprofen can cause an ulcer (as the irritation is caused by overproduction of stomach acid).
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                • #9
                  IMO, doctors always want to push meds.

                  Background--I took Rx NSAIDs for over 20 years for my severe arthritis--because I didn't know any better! About 10 years ago, I stopped taking them by controlling my inflammation and pain with diet and exercise. When I mentioned to my primary that I hadn't taken them for about 5 months, his response was, "Cold weather is coming, and you're going to need them." Of course, I didn't, and he just doesn't mention it any more--but he thinks I'm weird for not taking meds.

                  My philosophy is not to take anything I don't need, and I certainly wouldn't take anything for the mild inflammation and discomfort of the flu or a bad cold. As you point out, the inflammation is part of the healing process, so why suppress it?

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                  • #10
                    A few years ago when I sprained my wrist my doc prescribed an anti-inflammatory. She said inflammation gets in the way of healing.

                    Last month I injured my shoulder. The ortho I saw said the same thing, only instead of prescribing recommended OTC nsaids. He said the inflammation needs to be kept down. I took naproxen (Aleve) for about 1.5 weeks until I started experiencing one of its rarer side effects - mouth sores - and now I'm taking ibuprofen (Advil/Motrin). Normally I also prefer not to take drugs I don't "need", but when 2 docs I trust (plus the ER doc) tell me the same thing, I start to think there's something to it.

                    I imagine there's a difference between illness and injury, but I do have to wonder what it is the inflammation is DOING and how it can possibly help.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by elwyne View Post
                      I imagine there's a difference between illness and injury, but I do have to wonder what it is the inflammation is DOING and how it can possibly help.
                      I know this is an old thread but Google respects not such details

                      Inflammation is what the body does to heal. Vasodilation (blood vessels get better) increases blood flow to bring in nutrients and take away metabolites from an area being repaired. Hence an area of skin turning red (more blood in that area) and getting warm (more blood, more heat from your core near the surface).

                      It's a normal and necessary part of healing.

                      However, the body can go overboard (this according to reading around on the subject and also my good friend who's a Physiotherapist). Too much inflation can have unwanted side effects that actually slow healing.

                      Fine - nothing controversial here I don't think.

                      But why would our bodies, clever at keeping us alive though they generally are, go overboard and create too much inflammation?

                      Could it simply be that in the general population people have a elevated inflammatory response? (Due to the usual dietary fun like excess Omega 6 etc).

                      In that case, for the "average" patient, an anti-inflammatory drug would likely bring their inflammatory response back into line with where it needs to be for efficient healing.

                      And therefore the "average" Primalist, having a better adjusted inflammatory response, may actually be harmed by them because the inflammation would be down-regulated below optimum and therefore may actually slow healing (leaving aside any other fun side effects from NSAIDs of course!).

                      So, for someone eating a good (i.e. Primal) diet taking NSAIDs is likely best avoided.

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                      • #12
                        You want to avoid NSAIDs if you have any inflammatory bowel symptoms or had colon surgery.

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