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  • #16
    Valrhona Le Noir 85% is good and very low in sugar (Trader Joe's carries it at the registers). When I first tried it, it seemed very unsweet, but now I love it. The texture is great- t's not too waxy, crumbly or dry. Scharffen Berger also makes a very good 82% bar.
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    • #17
      Unfortunately, we don't have a Trader Joe's here. I'm in the midwest US, and I think the closest would be Denver (6 hours away). I might try the endangered species 88%, because I know that i can get that through our co-op.

      queen_sheba, i'm having a hard time putting two and two together. are you saying that i should look for a higher fat content per serving to ensure that there isn't added "reduced fat cocoa powder"? how would i know that the higher fat content isn't because of the lower sugar content?
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      • #18
        My very favorite, if you can find it, is Hachez 88%. My grocery store stopped carrying it though. =[

        Endangered Species 88% is pretty good (and comes in a bag of individually-wrapped squares which is nice).

        The Ghirardelli 85%(?) is good too.

        I wasn't a big fan of the Dagoba in that range.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Saoirse View Post
          Unfortunately, we don't have a Trader Joe's here. I'm in the midwest US, and I think the closest would be Denver (6 hours away). I might try the endangered species 88%, because I know that i can get that through our co-op.

          queen_sheba, i'm having a hard time putting two and two together. are you saying that i should look for a higher fat content per serving to ensure that there isn't added "reduced fat cocoa powder"? how would i know that the higher fat content isn't because of the lower sugar content?
          hmmm..all excellent questions. I just know that the 85% G&B is 60g of fat in the 100g bar. The 70% one is about 40g (ish? i think - but certainly lower!)

          the higher fat content is due to the higher cocoa butter content...i suspect.

          higher fat doesn't equal no crappy cocoa powder. It's not even a "quality brand" thing.

          My 2.60 bar of 77% "designer" chocolate is;

          cocoa mass, sugar, fat-reduced cocoa powder (12%)

          The cheapo 85% from the co-op is 1.09 and has no cocoa powder ( i don't think anyway!)
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          • #20
            Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
            I've found 2 I LOVE: Lindt 95% and Ghiradelli 100%. With the Lindt, it's kinda like a Hershey's Dark was to me at one point: dark, but still on the sweet side.
            I don't think Lindt makes a 95% dark chocolate. Certainly not in bar form. 99%, 90%, 85%, 70%, and beyond that who cares?

            Anyway, I'm a Lindt fan. There are many other brands I have yet to try which I might like more, but for my money the Lindt 90% bar is hard to beat. "Chocolate, cocoa butter, cocoa powder, sugar, natural bourbon vanilla beans". No cruddy soy lecithin, and only 0.75g sugar per square.

            Walmart sells them for $1.99/bar now. Though my local Walmart is just a few miles away from Lindt's USA headquarters, so maybe it's cheaper there than elsewhere? Last time I was at Walmart I bought their remaining inventory of the 90% dark...around 24 bars I believe. Last time I was at the Lindt outlet when they had 90% bars on sale 12-for-$12, I bought as many as I thought would fit in my pantry.

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            • #21
              They certainly do, L - they sell it in my local indie grocery store. I've no idea about the ingredients of the bars I buy because they're hand made. I know the highest she currently does is 85%, but that's still a little sweet for my tastes.

              I have been known to eat cacao powder straight from the tin, if I've nothing else...

              I'm hoping Santa might bring me a selection box from here http://www.willieschocolateshop.com/. I've sampled his chocolate before, and it really is the dog's dangly bits...

              The Javan Light is my favourite, though I also dig the Venezuelan. Tasting chocolate's like tasting wine or coffee and, like coffee, cacao beans are strength rated (Javan's 2, and the Venezuelan's 5).

              Just wish I had 75 to spend on chocolate!
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Shrinking_Violet View Post
                They certainly do, L - they sell it in my local indie grocery store. I've no idea about the ingredients of the bars I buy because they're hand made. I know the highest she currently does is 85%, but that's still a little sweet for my tastes.
                I take it you're referring to Lindt 95% bars? Well, that's very interesting. Maybe it's something Lindt doesn't sell directly in the USA (perhaps naiadknight in Texas buys them from an importer?). I've never seen a Lindt 95% bar in the Lindt store at the USA headquarters in Stratham NH, nor at the Lindt outlet store in nearby Exeter, nor anywhere else. Lindt's USA website doesn't mention that product -- though I could have been looking in the wrong category. If such a product exists and is only sold in some non-USA markets, I'm going to petition Lindt to start making it here in Stratham.

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                • #23
                  I just bought Godiva 85% at Cost Plus. Pretty good.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Lindt offering different bars in the UK

                    If SeventyPercent's reviews are to be trusted--and I think they are--Lindt vends some different bars in the UK. For instance, Martin Christy gave high praise to the US version of the Lindt 85% bar, while Alex Rast disliked the UK Lindt 85% and despaired that the UK didn't have access to the version sold in the States. (The reviews come up in a search right now, but for some reason you can't access them. Must be a database bug...)

                    A few years ago I was determined to experience the UK 85% for myself and wrote to Lindt about it. They never responded. My attempts to acquire a UK Lindt 85% have been utterly fruitless. Ah well. I remain puzzled by Lindt's practice of vending slightly different bars in the UK and the rest of the world.

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                    • #25
                      Re: best dark bars

                      If you like:

                      creaminess/cocoa butter, low carb content: Hachez 88%
                      sweetness: Green & Black's 85%, Endangered Species 88%, or Scharfen Berger 82%
                      rich cacao flavor: Rapunzel 85%, Alter Eco Blackout 85%
                      very strong cacao flavor, low carb content: Lindt 85% US version

                      My sister believes Michel Cluizel's 85% is an ideal marriage of creaminess and flavor. It is, however, expensive and hard to find. It's also much sweeter than my own ideal, but it might appeal to many.

                      I remain smitten by Theo's discontinued Venezuela 91%. I hope they can access those delightful beans again someday.

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                      • #26
                        Someone mentioned the Hachez earlier - yuck! I find that one way too bitter and burned. Feodora (German) is quite nice. I'm partial to Lindt myself, but if there's a good Eastern European/Balkan food import store near you, I suggest the KRAS 77 or 88% (Croatian brand.)

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                        • #27
                          Oh, I might be remembering worng. It may have been the 90% Lindt. I thought ti was 95% from Walgreens though.
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                          • #28
                            It's interesting to read different reactions to the same bar. I know people who love and crave the Hachez 88%. The first time I encountered it I found it bitter. A year later, I found it creamy and the flavor pleasant. Now that several years have passed, I find it creamy but so bland and low on actual cacao flavor that there's barely a reason to consume it.

                            I wish like mad I could locate a 95% bar in the US. I've been searching and hoping to no avail. If anyone finds one available online, please post a link!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by liss View Post
                              It's interesting to read different reactions to the same bar. I know people who love and crave the Hachez 88%. The first time I encountered it I found it bitter. A year later, I found it creamy and the flavor pleasant. Now that several years have passed, I find it creamy but so bland and low on actual cacao flavor that there's barely a reason to consume it.
                              I think what you're describing might be attributed to your evolving -- dare I say, desensitized by constant stimulation of cocoa? -- taste buds.

                              I'm probably about to get desensitized to Lindt 90% as well: my wife just called to tell me that the Lindt outlet had 90% bars in stock (a rare occurrence), and she bought as many as would fit in the cart. That's one hundred twenty bars. Those should last me a good long while...I hope!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jodyanne View Post
                                Lidl and Aldi do lovely 81% and 85% brands.
                                I tried the 85% bar from Aldi and it was surprisingly good. I prefer it over the Lindt bars in that range, as it's creamier and less dry.

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