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    Hi, I have a question. My dad has had horrible pain in the back of his upper leg for over 6 months now. We think it's nerve pain, he goes to a chiro and thinks it helps but he keeps reinjuring it. He's a super high stress type of guy and tension sure doesn't help. My question is will a primal diet help that? He eats a semi-healthy mostly whole grain SAD diet. Not junk food but still he sure likes his cookies and pb&j sandwiches. He's also very resistant to diet change. I'm thinking about telling him that if he promises to try it for 2 weeks I'll cook him lots of yummy food and bring him primal cookies so he doesn't have to go w/o sweets. Anyone have any experience with this type of pain and will primal help? I hate to talk him into it and it not help a bit, then he'd be really against PB. I assume it will help just because it seems to be a cure all in most cases

  • #2
    Isfahel,

    Please show your father this from Cardiologist Dr. Davis:
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...ing-wheat.html

    Wheat causes havoc to the the body, nerves and brain. Show him these additional links:
    All links are short and to the point.
    * Wheat - Visceral Fat, Man Boobs, Breast Cancers, blood sugar, Big Belly
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...ond-floor.html

    * Wheat-insulin resistance,diabetes,heart disease,hypertension,cancer,arthritis,cartilage destruction
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...wheat-hip.html

    * Wheat Free Diet gets AMAZING results:
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...free-life.html

    * Photo of Wheat Belly, weight gain, Bad Cholesterol, Brain Fog, heart disease, lost energy
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...eat-belly.html

    * Wheat - Testimonials Fat melting away from not eating grains
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...nst-wheat.html

    * Wheat - Makes us feel Hungry
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...er-factor.html

    * Wheat Benefits = none, Effects of not eating wheat
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...-syndrome.html

    * Wheat - Your Brain on Wheat
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...-wheat-ii.html

    * Wheat Severe Joint Pain, man walks after giving up wheat
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...ing-wheat.html

    * Wheat the Nicotine of Food contributes MIGHTILY to Diabetes
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...e-of-food.html

    * MDA - WHY GRAINS ARE UNHEALTHY
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-g...are-unhealthy/
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...WHEAT-and-OATS

    Best to you,
    Grizz
    Last edited by Grizz; 11-01-2010, 01:02 PM.

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    • #3
      Grizz, do you have any links about high blood pressure? A friend is considering primal. She's a young woman (30s), overweight and doctor can't figure out why her BP is high. I check heartscanblog but couldn't find anything specific to BP. Thanks!

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      • #4
        Stef,
        Here is a quote from Dr. Davis,

        "While readers of The Heart Scan Blog already know that I advocate a diet free of wheat, cornstarch, and sugar for heart health and correction of multiple lipoprotein abnormalities, it was fascinating to hear how a similar approach seems to yield extraordinary benefits in this entirely unrelated area of female health. Yes. All metabolic parameters, as well as many common complaints, improve. Cholesterol and triglyceride levels improve, while "good" HDL cholesterol levels increase. Weight drops at a pace of 12 lbs per month very steadily and we have many many patients who have experienced 50lb wt loss. Blood pressure decreases steadily in these patients and we are often able to get them off of cholesterol and blood pressure medicines. Common symptoms such as anxiety, sleep disturbances, decreased energy, migraine headaches and depression all dramatically improve. Again we can often get patients off depression and migraine suppression medications. So this approach helps in a multitude of areas."
        http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...ecologist.html

        Much more here: The correct word to search for is Hypertension:
        http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/search?q=hypertension

        Overweight = High Blood Pressure [hypertension] pure & simple.
        When she gets rid of the weight, her blood pressure will fall. Her doctor must be a doofus. Everyone knows that overweight = high blood pressure.

        My wife went from high blood pressure to normal for the 1st time in 30 years within 2 months of going Primal. She was only 20 lbs overweight, and she is now at her "Perfect Weight."

        Best to you,
        Grizz
        Last edited by Grizz; 11-01-2010, 01:39 PM.

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        • #5
          Thanks Grizz, I loved that story of the man who couldn't walk w/o pain. Now I just have to get my dad to read these and not dismiss them...

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          • #6
            Thank you! I will send it to her.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Isfahel View Post
              Thanks Grizz, I loved that story of the man who couldn't walk w/o pain. Now I just have to get my dad to read these and not dismiss them...
              Isfael,
              He HAS to take it seriously because the source is a well respected cardiologist. The source could not be more credible.

              Best to you,
              Grizz

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              • #8
                I talked to him a bit, lol, I asked him why not, it couldn't hurt. And he joked it would hurt not being able to eat his pb sandwich everyday... I told him he could make it with coconut pancakes, maybe he will, I know he's sick and tired of hurting. And I found out it is Sciatica, don't know if that makes any difference. I read good things about Esther Gokhale's methods on another thread and her book is at our library so I'm going to get it and see if anything in that will help.

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                • #9
                  Hi Isfahel. I am a Chiro and I think the best way to look at the spine is it is like a fuse box. As a Chiro I can reset the fuse but if you are still overloading your system you are going to keep blowing that fuse. It's like having fourteen things plugged into a power point, until you unplug some things, the fuse is just going to keep blowing. It's important to reset the fuse but you also have to unplug some things. Now things that will overload the body are either physical stresses, emotional stresses or chemical stresses. I know personally, my spine needed to be realigned every two weeks to keep my nerves working optimally, and keep my migraines at bay, before I went primal. Now I get a checkup every 4 weeks. This means that a perfect CW diet was an overload on my body. So yes going Primal will help the Chiro work better and for longer. Also look at the other overloads. Get the stress under control by removing the stress or using some meditation, stretching or massage to reduce the tension created by the stress. EFT can help - search for it on Mercola.com where he explains how to do it. Look for any physical stresses that may be overloading things as well - work, bad positions, old bed etc. And keep getting adjusted by the Chiro.

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                  • #10
                    I am a PTA and think quite possibly a little physical therapy along with his adjustments might be a good idea too. If the chiro keeps re-setting the fuse box, and the wiring is junked up it will jus tkeep blowing too. Doing stretchign and specialized core strengthening will help to keep it from coming back. Some chiros are good about this and will teach the patient the right exercises to help with this, while others won't. Unfortunately, some insurance won't cover both a chiro and PT at the same time.

                    Sigh, now I miss my chiros, they were the best ever.
                    Meghan

                    My MDA journal

                    Primal Ponderings- my blog- finally added some food pron :P

                    And best of all my Body Fat Makeover!!

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                    • #11
                      I get sciatica problems when I don't keep my hamstrings long and loose. Has he tried a gentle style of yoga?
                      Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                      http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                      • #12
                        Good point NutMeg. I teach my patients exercises and stretches as part of their rehab. Yoga covers both strength and stretch. I want to get it right and then strengthen the rightness. You're right though, a lot of Chiro's don't teach any exercise. (I think that was too many rights, right?)

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                        • #13
                          Right...lol

                          I used to see a really good husband and wife chiro team before we moved. It was a little difficult at first going in there considering the animosity between chiros and PTs in the U.S. With their help we were able to get my younger daughter to turn in-utero from breech to vertex, they used the Webster technique. She was my only baby to turn without an external version (first was breech at term and born via c-section). They taught stretching and exercises. At my last PT clinic the chiro didn't teach those things and we would end up treating his patients after they saw him for months without results. I wish they had allowed the patients to see us and him at the same time they would have been better a lot faster.
                          Meghan

                          My MDA journal

                          Primal Ponderings- my blog- finally added some food pron :P

                          And best of all my Body Fat Makeover!!

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                          • #14
                            Husband and wife team that use Webster. I can think of a few fantastic duos that I know. I'm certified by the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association who teach the Webster technique and have met many US Chiros through them. Great group.

                            I must admit, we seem to be pretty rare in our area, in that we refer and co-manage quite a lot. I think it's the same in all professions that no-one wants to refer and co-manage, they want to do everything themselves and be all the answers for all people. For us, best care is paramount and I like to use others who can speed the recovery for the patient. We actually refer to quite a few PT's and Myotherapists. I also use Naturopaths, Osteopaths and a few Holistic GPs. There are even other Chiros we refer to because they specialize in different techniques like Neuro Emotional Technique for emotional stress or Neurolink for organ dysfunction.

                            Working together for the best results for the patient should be most important, not massaging egos and letting politics and money get in the way <puts soap box away>

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                            • #15
                              Isfahel,

                              Sometimes the simplest problems are overlooked, just because they are too simple.

                              I used to suffer TERRIBLE nerve pain down one leg ( Sciatica Nerve) until I figured out WHY. It was always severe pain in the right leg. Why not the left leg? It was always the day after sitting for long periods of time, then later became continuous non-stop pain for weeks. Doctors just gave me a shot in the butt, but that did not help for long.

                              It was my wallet that I kept in my right back pocket, when I sat down, I was sitting on that wallet, putting abnormal pressure on the Sciatic nerve.

                              Now since keeping my wallet in my front pocket, and have not had nerve pain again in 40 years. I have NEVER put anything in my back pockets since!

                              So ask your dad which leg hurts, then ask where he keeps his wallet. I'll wager the pain & the wallet are on the same side. Please let us know what he says.

                              Grizz
                              Last edited by Grizz; 11-02-2010, 03:11 AM.

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