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  • I have a real problem with being a 'senior member'

    I don't want newbies to think that means I know stuff! I just post FAR too much, is all - I know jack sh*t about this stuff! I'd hate for some poor noob to take what I say as gospel, just because of what it says under my username...

    Why can't there be some way of distinguishing the know-nothing blabbermouths (like me!) from those who know their stuff (like Griff, Batty, CillaKat, John, Joe - and probably loads of others, but those are the ones who pop instantly into my head - sorry if I've forgotten anyone else noteworthy)...

    It might have been mentioned before, but it's been bothering me ever since I moved up a 'rank'...
    La tristesse durera toujours...

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    Trust me, I don't necessarily know stuff. I just know my experiences and share them. I am sure there are things you have been through that you know might help someone else. I still have a lot of questions, and there are no definite answers to everything. There sure are a lot of opinions though.

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    • #3
      Agreed. It took me a while to figure that out. But I will say that everyone's perspective is helpful. Maybe we have to be self-regulating in this regard. Put a disclaimer or something.

      EG. Sanas: I'm a noob. Listen to me. Or don't.

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      • #4
        Hmm... I don't think any of us are really experts, no matter how long we've been Primal. I think if you have a thought on something you should post it. Doesn't matter how much you do or don't know. Sometimes it takes somebody with "new eyes" to see the things we might not otherwise.

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        • #5
          Ain't that the truth, John.
          Violet, the truth is no one knows the exact truth all the time. Some may have found out exactly what their body needs and when it needs it (Griff, batty, cilla, kuno, stabby), others are still trying to work that out. Several folks here can give you general guidelines as to what normally works, but you're the only one who can define what works for your body. I may have a gajillion and one posts, but trust me, most of those are me arguing with myself in my journal, asking questions, and answering questions I CAN help with, so I can help someone else work with their body. Most people who've spent a couple days on here don't even notice the rankings anymore. It really means very little. Even newbies can quickly figure out how little it means by watching the questions and responses.
          That being said, if it truly worries you, add a disclaimer to your signature. Something like "I'm still learning, do not construe as expert advice," or "Primal in training."
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          • #6
            Does anybody really pay attention to the junior/senior label to judge credibility? I would wager most people in the forums are primal because they're not the sort to take things at face value by default, certainly that would include flags in a message board system eh?
            "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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            • #7
              Thanks, guys, you're right - I tells ya what, though, I'm just elated to have remained on a forum long enough to have been able to make enough posts to have 'advanced' - the reason being this isn't a modded forum; the trouble with mods - and admins - I find, is they tend to have rather over-inflated egos and are rather highly-opinionated (take MDG forum for example (you all know where I mean - take each letter back one) I was banned from there for daring to suggest that frankenfoods were evil and disagreeing with someone who thought she knew all about me (she wasn't a mod, but she seemed to be very cosy with them...). Oh and I, erm, did invoke Godwin's Law once (something I don't believe I've EVER done before - because it proves your arguement specious and without foundation - you invoke Godwin's Law and, by definition, you've lost...)
              La tristesse durera toujours...

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              • #8
                I'm disappointed that this topic isn't about being a senior citizen. Personally I can't wait to be old so I can have a sticker that says "too old to drive!" but the drive will be crossed out and it will say "too old to care!" instead. Being old is going to rule. Too bad this whole primal business will keep me healthy even in old age. This is bullshit guys I'm leaving the forums and going back to SHD. (Standard Hispanic diet...)
                I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by iniQuity View Post
                  I'm disappointed that this topic isn't about being a senior citizen. Personally I can't wait to be old so I can have a sticker that says "too old to drive!" but the drive will be crossed out and it will say "too old to care!" instead. Being old is going to rule. Too bad this whole primal business will keep me healthy even in old age. This is bullshit guys I'm leaving the forums and going back to SHD. (Standard Hispanic diet...)
                  PMSL!! I'll join ya - hell we'll be the Granny Grokettes (I'm thinking something like the Monty Python 'Hell's Grannies' sketch - but with more meat!)
                  La tristesse durera toujours...

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                  • #10
                    Yeah Violet your opinions are just as valuable. I would say JET ii nailed it - you definitely have experience in areas none of us can touch.

                    I spend my working days giving advice. I think it even helps some people. And yet, frequently after I hear about some mess or another a patient got himself into, I will laugh at myself, thinking sarcastically, "I'm sure glad I have MY s**t together!"

                    The irony of expertise is that it doesn't mean you're any better at applying it to your own problems than the next person.
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                    • #11
                      Violet,

                      When I was myself a newbie, I also noted the, "Join Date" on the posts of folks who were giving advice (and took that into consideration).
                      That's not to say that newcomers can't share valuable info, because they CAN.

                      I've been around awhile, but I'm not even an expert in what works for ME yet.
                      I'm gonna start putting a disclaimer on everything I say ;-)

                      (YMMV)

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                      • #12
                        Violet, I don't think anyone cares. I've been primal for over a year and a half and I was lurking around Mark's old MDA site for a eight months before that. I just don't post often, thus the plain ol' "member" status. Don't worry about it. :-)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Joe View Post
                          Yeah Violet your opinions are just as valuable. I would say JET ii nailed it - you definitely have experience in areas none of us can touch.

                          I spend my working days giving advice. I think it even helps some people. And yet, frequently after I hear about some mess or another a patient got himself into, I will laugh at myself, thinking sarcastically, "I'm sure glad I have MY s**t together!"

                          The irony of expertise is that it doesn't mean you're any better at applying it to your own problems than the next person.
                          You flatter me, sir! The only areas I have expertise in are sitting on me arse all day, spending FAR too much time on the computer than is good - or healthy for me - and whinging on here...

                          And who wants to know about that...?

                          I have to say that I hated you after a PM you sent me (I couldn't reply - I had to delete it as it upset me greatly. I had wanted to reply, but I didn't think you'd believe the things I would have said).

                          You're not so bad now, though, bud!
                          La tristesse durera toujours...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kuno1chi View Post
                            Violet,

                            When I was myself a newbie, I also noted the, "Join Date" on the posts of folks who were giving advice (and took that into consideration).
                            That's not to say that newcomers can't share valuable info, because they CAN.

                            I've been around awhile, but I'm not even an expert in what works for ME yet.
                            I'm gonna start putting a disclaimer on everything I say ;-)

                            (YMMV)

                            I know - this was a damned fool silly thread to start (I wish I never had now)! Thing is I'm not an expert in anything and, even when I do post something that's even vaguely 'on target' it's more through luck than judgement. I used to think I was an expert in supplements and nutrtional stuff, for example, but that was before I 'met' 'our' Katherine - now I realise I know bugger all about that (and that was my one area of dietary expertise - or so I thought...)

                            I love it here (if only for the fact I've not been kicked off yet - but, like I said before, there are no egotistical mods and admins round here - I can't be doing with that; it's like what they say at the end of the rules for comps run by newspapers and mags over here: - the Editor's decision is final, and no correspondence shall be entered into...

                            Just substitute 'admin' and/or 'mod' for 'Editor', and there you have it. A forum should be a place the sharing of knowledge and info amongst equals (just like it was in the times of the ancient Romans; a space for debate amongst the populace, amongst equals).

                            This is - to me at least - a forum in the truest sense of the word, and that's what I value about it the most...
                            La tristesse durera toujours...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jenny View Post
                              Does anybody really pay attention to the junior/senior label to judge credibility? I would wager most people in the forums are primal because they're not the sort to take things at face value by default, certainly that would include flags in a message board system eh?
                              No. I don't pay attention to junior/senior.
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