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  • In the future - will society evolve like the "Time Machine"?

    will all the roly poly grain eaters turn into the morlocks and the primal/paleo lean fit healthy dudes turn into the equivalent of a city of greek gods/goddesses?

    just a silly lunchtime thought....where could evolution point us for our bad diet choices?

    "speculated that the human race has evolved into two species: the leisured classes have become the ineffectual Eloi, and the downtrodden working classes have become the brutish light-fearing Morlocks....."

    "His revised analysis is that their relationship is not one of lords and servants but of livestock and ranchers"

    discuss....
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  • #2
    Morlocks! You are forever on my nifty list. I love that movie.
    To answer the question though I think it might work just the opposite physically. Given the Eloi were largely useless and had pretty much no sense of danger (they just sat there while she was drowning...), I would think the grain eaters would end up more like the Eloi. They behaved more like livestock to me while the Morlocks were more toward the top of the food chain. They had the presence of mind to lure in the Eloi after all thus ensuring their survival...at least until Rod Taylor showed up...
    Of course if it means looking like a Morlock well...might have to think about that.

    side note: After reading this over I have come to the distinct realization that...I am a nerd.
    "So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains
    And we never even know we have the key."
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    • #3
      I don't know that it'll go that direction. I could see humans splitting again genetically, but not that direction. In the book, the Eloi were much to the effect of sheeple and the Morlocks were much to the effect of carnivorous Sasquatches.
      I could see it more doing a short term split, ala Neandertal and Homo Sapiens, with the SAD humans eventually dying out, like Neandertal. There of course will be interbreeding between the species for quite some time, even after the genetic split. The way I foresee the split occurring has more to do with what the SAD human is mutating itself into with its food than what we're doing. I see it as the PB/ Paleo/ etc. will remain as they are ,with maybe a few favorable genetic mutations; while the SAD human, thanks to the soy/ wheat/ sugar/frankenfoods, will mutate and mutate, becoming either vehicles for cancerous growths (I don't see this one happening), or turning into something like the humans in WALL-E with the added benefit of the physical mutations shown in the sewers of Futurama. The SAD human will eventually kill itself off, not through war, but through abusing its genomic structure so much that children start being born sterile (Mother Nature at her finest), much like a mule, or by dying younger and having much fewer offspring.
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      • #4
        Naiadknight - I love that you referenced the mutants from Futurama as a possible outcome for society....so funny.

        Funny yet scary topic though. I do fear the path that we continue to go towards as a society. We continue to use science without thinking forward beyond the now. Just because we are able to do something, doesn't necessarily mean we should. Sure it would look great if we could solve world hunger by spraying a crop field with nuclear waste (hope someone gets the reference....), if it cultivated gigantic crops of endless proportions....but would the result of everyone being addicted to tomacco be worth it? I doubt it.

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        • #5
          Simpsons.
          The projections I see do scare me. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt I am.
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          • #6
            I think there's so much travel and interbreeding these days, true speciation would be tough to pull off. (plus I think it's actually good for society as a whole if interracial and international marriage rates stay high...)

            But I'm sure we'll always have an overall preference for those at least somewhat like ourselves. It just might not be on the physical front.

            Oh and to add to the intellectual nature of the discussion, my vote is totally for Simpsons/Family Guy hybrids as the future of humanity.

            Then eventually we WILL speciate when the people with money and a will to do so go full digital upload, Ghost in the Shell style, and there will be debates on data integrity and personality translation and the human soul. And then it'll all become mandatory because they can't feed the billions of physical people anyway. And then the Guide's reporters will be the first ones up against the wall when the Revolution comes.
            "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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            • #7
              My vote is for a Stephen King "The Stand" style future where the SADs are all wiped out by the super flu...and the rest of us Paleo folks follow Mother Abigal to the promised land of grass fed beef and veggies

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              • #8
                I could live with that. Issue comes in, there were two sides of survivors after the bug. How will it split?
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                • #9
                  Someone from the ADA will probbaly survive and band together the last few high carbers in Vegas. The only high carbers to survive will probably the overly tan ones with high high Vit D levels

                  Back to you to decide their demise... what would the trashcan man bring to nuke them all? A lifetime supply of cupcakes?

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                  • #10
                    Maybe he'd bring them 30 B*nanas a Day.
                    "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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                    • #11
                      No. ADA/ Flagg wouldn't allow it. Trashy would need to have a similar obsession to pyromania. Maybe... a passion for alcohol. Not alcoholism, because the end product, for him, is the chemical signature of the final brew, not drinking it. With each batch he makes, it's a higher proof (a more evolved signature to his mind). He finds an old moonshine still in the desert, trundles it home. He sets it up near the grain silo, because it was close to the source for his brews. He gets the town hooked on his brews, but they can't actually have much of it, because of Flagg. Lloyd would be the caretaker of the silo. Eventually, the silo runs empty. An angry mob forms at Trashy's gates, foaming mad that A) there's no more brew and B) his brew sucked the silo dry. Trashy lobs a torch at the crowd out of desperation, but it lands on his still. Mind you, Trashy's brews hit 200 proof a long time ago, now he's been tweaking the form of alcohol. The still explodes, instantly killing some of the mob. Flagg is watching from the top of the silo, yelling for them to... nevermind, the silo's gone. The very little grain left was more wheat dust, very flammable, and the ether from Trashy's still had been seeping in the entire time. It was a bomb, waiting for a match. The entire (used part of the) town is laid to waste because of the explosion. Any folks that survived the instantaneous death of the explosion, died of the shockwave or fume inhalation.
                      Flagg wakes up on a remote island. He holds out his hands to the native. In one, a loaf of whole wheat bread. In the other: 3 grains of wheat.
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                      • #12
                        LMAO -- that's good!

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                        • #13
                          Thanks. First time I've even come close to fanfic, probably the last time I'll ever do it. It's a good sample of how I write, minus 60- 70 pages of development and description. My style borrows heavily from Douglas Adams, Stephen King, and Robert Heinlein.
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                          • #14
                            Love The Stand reference... I think of what would happen often.

                            Of course, I see either Idiocracy or Wall-E as possibilities as well...
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                            • #15
                              I was just watching the classic movie the other day and I noticed how the mindless Eloi were fruitarians, LOL!
                              Coincidence? I think not;-)
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