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    Yes, la~la~la. I feel amazing and alive now that I'm giving my body the food that it's actually intended to eat.

    But in pursuing this dietary enlightenment has anyone else started to get -really- pissed off at the state of things? Maybe it's a bad idea for me to be reading a stack of books about US farming, meat industry, corn industry, and agricultural policy during this big lifestyle changeover. I've spent the entire afternoon fuming at the world.

    It's all well and good to let people be willfully ignorant and impact their own health, but it goes beyond that. The mass of uninformed sheep that makes up this country steers policy.

    Sure, I can choose to buy organic food, but what is an organic chicken really? In a world where Whole Foods proudly sells up items containing organic corn syrup then where can you turn? There's the "local produce," but I live in California. How many of those "local" items are really from Cal-Organic's massive industrial machine of a farm?

    I just keep opening new Pandora's Boxes that I can't close. At this rate I'll be living in Berkley within a year using manure to wash my hair and wearing clothes made from sustainable mulch.

    ( I think all this righteous fury and outrage might tie in with the increase I've been experiencing in Testosterone from going Primal. )
    My primal journal!
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Meat-Manifesto

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    Have you met my good friend Mr. Apathy?
    Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

    Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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    • #3
      Apathy is Tyranny's greatest ally.
      Apathy is tyranny's greatest ally.

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      • #4
        Damn that would make a good sound-bite. Props.
        Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

        Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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        • #5
          It drives me up the wall thinking about how much land is wasted and ruined growing grains. When I drive past a wheat crop I think about sticking a match in it.

          I actually am thinking of ways to reinvigorate land ruined by grain farming and convert it to good grazing pasture. All I need is a few million dollars.
          A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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          • #6
            The state of the world makes me feel like my head is going to explode at any moment. I just try to remember that I can simply try to make what difference that I can and not fret about what I cannot change.

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            • #7
              I was biking down my street this afternoon. I live in a fairly affluent area, so every front yard was an arrangement of themes, gorgeous plants, and meticulous landscaping. It's sick! The water and money that go into making this "pleasing" decor of environmentally unnatural plants. Imagine just one street of twenty people all using their yards for different types of produce, chickens, even a goat or two for milk and cheese. Then imagine once a week these people bring these assets together as a small community and share amongst themselves. Total hippie ideal that ignores how the world works, I know, but the only thing standing in the way of it's feasibility is PEOPLE. Bleh.

              This is why I used to be apathetic, immoral, and blissfully ignorant.
              My primal journal!
              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Meat-Manifesto

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BoyPrimal View Post
                I was biking down my street this afternoon. I live in a fairly affluent area, so every front yard was an arrangement of themes, gorgeous plants, and meticulous landscaping. It's sick! The water and money that go into making this "pleasing" decor of environmentally unnatural plants. Imagine just one street of twenty people all using their yards for different types of produce, chickens, even a goat or two for milk and cheese. Then imagine once a week these people bring these assets together as a small community and share amongst themselves. Total hippie ideal that ignores how the world works, I know, but the only thing standing in the way of it's feasibility is PEOPLE. Bleh.

                This is why I used to be apathetic, immoral, and blissfully ignorant.
                I love the idea but the government and home owner's associations would never allow it. It would violate some unknown law on the books I'm sure.
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                • #9
                  Try to remember that millions in America are going hungry before you get quite so wrapped up in whether your meals pass the good-guy test. Someone somewhere will always be trying to make things that should be good into things which are bad, and there will always be subjective opinions to be weighed. To me, diet is on the lower end of the scale of concerns for the world right now. When one has no home and a wife and kids to feed, grass fed organic no-grain lunatic fringe diets are probably not even on the radar.

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                  • #10
                    I share your frustration. Mine is especially pointed at the pharmaceutical industry and sugar manufacturers.

                    As for the growing veg etc in your urban neighbourhood and sharing your harvest: why not start something yourself? Get to know your neighbours, tell them you want to start a vegetable garden find out their reaction. The city I live in has a lot of community gardens and more and more urban farmers trading tomatoes for fresh eggs etc. Have you heard of Urban Farm Magazine? It is all about rooftop vegetable gardens, composting in small spaces, bring more sustainable without having to live on acres of land. You might like it. www.urbanfarmonline.com
                    The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease. - Thomas Edison

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by blank_faceplate View Post
                      Try to remember that millions in America are going hungry before you get quite so wrapped up in whether your meals pass the good-guy test. Someone somewhere will always be trying to make things that should be good into things which are bad, and there will always be subjective opinions to be weighed. To me, diet is on the lower end of the scale of concerns for the world right now. When one has no home and a wife and kids to feed, grass fed organic no-grain lunatic fringe diets are probably not even on the radar.
                      The thing is, if people could legally do small urban farming (with animals as compared to just gardening), some of those millions might be able to supply some of their food needs better. Community garden projects and similar ideas have been demonstrated to improve people's diets and provide alternatives to the cheap but toxic foods that are often what poor folks can afford to access, particularly in inner city food deserts.
                      “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blank_faceplate View Post
                        Try to remember that millions in America are going hungry before you get quite so wrapped up in whether your meals pass the good-guy test. Someone somewhere will always be trying to make things that should be good into things which are bad, and there will always be subjective opinions to be weighed. To me, diet is on the lower end of the scale of concerns for the world right now. When one has no home and a wife and kids to feed, grass fed organic no-grain lunatic fringe diets are probably not even on the radar.
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                        Sir are you in the right place? Lunatic fringe diets? The SAD is the true diet of a lunatic. How familiar are you with Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs? Basic physiological process comes before safety and resource procurement in importance. When the base of a pyramid is unstable everything on top will eventually crumble.

                        Many of this worlds troubles come from lack of nutritious food to eat. What good are you going to do your family with a myriad of health problems? If the world focused on producing good wholesome food instead of pushing shit food and consumerism tell you me that you honestly believe we would still be in the state we are in presently.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blank_faceplate View Post
                          Try to remember that millions in America are going hungry before you get quite so wrapped up in whether your meals pass the good-guy test. Someone somewhere will always be trying to make things that should be good into things which are bad, and there will always be subjective opinions to be weighed. To me, diet is on the lower end of the scale of concerns for the world right now. When one has no home and a wife and kids to feed, grass fed organic no-grain lunatic fringe diets are probably not even on the radar.
                          I'm transitioning out of my pig headed teenage phase; this is the first issue I've started to learn anything about. There's a lot more out there to become informed about, I know. But this frustration goes beyond my own personal dietary concerns. Some of the roots of those world concerns -do- dig into the way that agriculture and environment is treated by our government policy and corporate greed. Because of the way the food system has mutated in the last century it's those going hungry, the less fortunate who are most impacted by modern food. The affluent can fend for themselves and make the right choices; others have to rely on what the government makes standard.
                          My primal journal!
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Meat-Manifesto

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Leanne View Post
                            I share your frustration. Mine is especially pointed at the pharmaceutical industry and sugar manufacturers.

                            As for the growing veg etc in your urban neighbourhood and sharing your harvest: why not start something yourself? Get to know your neighbours, tell them you want to start a vegetable garden find out their reaction. The city I live in has a lot of community gardens and more and more urban farmers trading tomatoes for fresh eggs etc. Have you heard of Urban Farm Magazine? It is all about rooftop vegetable gardens, composting in small spaces, bring more sustainable without having to live on acres of land. You might like it. www.urbanfarmonline.com
                            I've actually been skipping around in delight all week on this very subject. A windy day blew down the huge tree in our backyard that has been blocking our family's sunlight for twenty years. Now there's sun everywhere and a huge patch of land that I get to convert into a sizable vegetable garden.

                            I'm lucky enough to live in the core of Silicon Valley, a place teeming with the type of yuppies who enjoy gardening and keeping chicken in their yards. Sure, we could be doing a lot more with our area, but it's the big picture that's got my panties in a bunch.
                            My primal journal!
                            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Meat-Manifesto

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by blank_faceplate View Post
                              Try to remember that millions in America are going hungry before you get quite so wrapped up in whether your meals pass the good-guy test. Someone somewhere will always be trying to make things that should be good into things which are bad, and there will always be subjective opinions to be weighed. To me, diet is on the lower end of the scale of concerns for the world right now. When one has no home and a wife and kids to feed, grass fed organic no-grain lunatic fringe diets are probably not even on the radar.
                              So what, pray tell, would you have us worry about, then?
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