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    Does anyone have experience with taking systemic enzymes? I've been taking them since last week for Diabetes related problems, everything seems to be going well except for a mild headache (I was told to expect this at first) but also, to my horror I weighed myself this morning and I've gained four pounds! I haven't been eating any more than usual (much less actually) and I read that enzymes are meant to make you lose weight! Temporary side effect?

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    What are "systemic enzymes"? There are thousands of enzymes in the body. Wouldn't it depend what ones you take? Do they actually get absorbed without being digested or denatured?

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    • #3
      StoneAgeQueen, are you taking something like the following? :

      Doctor's Best, Proteolytic Enzymes
      http://www.iherb.com/Doctor-s-Best-B...Caps/9941?at=0

      If so, I will comment on my own experiences: I only take these sporadically (maybe 1-2x/week if I'm lucky), so I haven't been consistent enough to discern a noticeable effect, one way or the other.

      Personally, I'm a big fan of reading product reviews to hear about what others using a particular product have experienced. You may want to glance at the reviews in the link above, for an example of the kinds of effects that others have seen from using systemic enzymes.

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      • #4
        Thanks I have already read numerous reviews for my product. The weight gain went already, I think it was just temporary water retention. I take zymessence by the way.

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        • #5
          >> The weight gain went already, I think it was just temporary water retention.

          glad to hear it!

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          • #6
            your experience with systemic enzymes

            Hello StoneAgeQueen,

            I'm a type I diabetic of 20 years, and I found Dr. William Wong's site, where he sells Zymessence. I'm considering taking it, and wondered what your results have been so far. According to his website, there's real possibility that a type I diabetic could eliminate the need to shots. Has this happened to you, or have you even noticed a difference in your A1Cs? I'm also worried about hypoglycemia, if taking Zymessence really encourages insulin production by one's own pancreas (!). Then again, maybe I'm being too hopeful. Would love to hear your experience!

            Many thanks,
            -R

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            • #7
              I'm bumping this thread because I'm curious to know what benefits you are seeing from this supplement. Are you still taking them? Any effect on your insulin dosages? The idea that they can restore pancreatic function is very appealing
              Type 1 Diabetic. Controlling blood sugar through primal life.

              2012 Goals:
              Maintain A1c of 6.0 or lower
              More dietary fat, less carbs, moderate protein
              LHT and sprint as per PB fitness
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              • #8
                I wasn't taking systemic enzymes, just digestive enzymes. I had some weight gain from them at first too. From looking at the Zymessence page, its seems the only difference is the serrapeptase enzyme.
                It is a temporary albeit slightly horrifying side effect. I gained 5lbs over 5 days.
                Calm the f**k down.

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                • #9
                  I looked at their website too, it is like $90 for a bottle. I definitely can't spend that...I found some alternatives on iHerb though.
                  Type 1 Diabetic. Controlling blood sugar through primal life.

                  2012 Goals:
                  Maintain A1c of 6.0 or lower
                  More dietary fat, less carbs, moderate protein
                  LHT and sprint as per PB fitness
                  Play more!

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                  • #10
                    What HASN'T improved by the Zymessence? My insulin usage has slashed to about a quarter of what it was (and falling), my retinopathy was HALTED in its tracks and no longer requires any laser treatment, and I now have the best controlled diabetes in the diabetic clinic of the hospital. Yes, it's expensive, but seriously worth it. Bearing in mind that I've been low carb for a very long time, but still suffered from insulin resistance and found out last August that my retinopathy was back. I was also starting to get pains in my feet... it's ALL good now. The dreaded 'dawn phenomenon' was the first thing to go. The main difference between Zymessence and the other brands is that Zymessence usually contains a lot more enzymes, so you need to take a lot less. I only take three a day now, although I started on 6.
                    Last edited by StoneAgeQueen; 04-27-2011, 05:42 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Please, more on Zymessence

                      I am also interested in William Wong's Zymessence. Systemic enzymes are so complicated that it is difficult to know anything for sure. Please update how you are doing?

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                      • #12
                        i am so glad to read the positive results you are experiencing SAQ!

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                        • #13
                          I know this is an old thread but I'm checking into trying this brand of enzymes. (For type 1 diabetes)

                          Any updates from people that use Zymessence?

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                          • #14
                            Zymessence

                            Originally posted by brooke.S. View Post
                            I know this is an old thread but I'm checking into trying this brand of enzymes. (For type 1 diabetes)

                            Any updates from people that use Zymessence?

                            My daughter took them and within 1 week had to drastically reduce her insulin. She had also been having weird pains in her neck, arms and legs at random times. Those stopped also.
                            I also know this is an old reply! Hoping to hear from Brooke s. To see if it was tried and if it was any help.

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                            • #15
                              Here's something to consider for both type 1 and 2 diabetics:

                              Alpha-lipoic acid supplementation and diabetes. [Nutr Rev. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI
                              Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University
                              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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