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  • Is air conditioning primal?

    My guess is no, but is there a real benefit to going windows open as most of the country is suffering through heat waves? What about heat?

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    It's just air that gets blown around by a fan. Seriously, who give a damn if its primal or not. If I told you oxygen wasn't primal because it was more pure in Grok's day, would you stop breathing?

    Next someone is going to ask if they should eat their boogers. Oh wait. Nevermind.

    Edit: I found a solution:

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rivvin View Post
      It's just air that gets blown around by a fan. Seriously, who give a damn if its primal or not. If I told you oxygen wasn't primal because it was more pure in Grok's day, would you stop breathing?

      Next someone is going to ask if they should eat their boogers. Oh wait. Nevermind.

      Edit: I found a solution:

      hahaha. thank you for putting this out there. I'll be damned before I stop using my central air when it's 95 with 90 percent humidity because Grok couldn't turn on A/C. He didn't use a computer either...quick shut down the forum

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      • #4
        We are so spoiled in this day and age. I was on a short camp out with my son's cub pack and a couple of the kids were just whining about the heat constantly. It was just in the 80's at the time and not really that big of a deal really. It's up on the 100's right now where I am so, I won't be turning the my AC off either, but at least I know that I've got it good. I'll take the warm weather any day over freezing cold.
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        • #5
          @ Rivvin That is so funny- I was thinking the same thing about the boogers yesterday when I was reading the annoyance thread.


          While air conditioning is not inherently primal, the movement towards shade and cool breezes is. If the need to minimize stress is a priority, avoiding intense heat is part of that in my opinion.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by whiteblackred View Post
            My guess is no, but is there a real benefit to going windows open as most of the country is suffering through heat waves? What about heat?
            Windows are not primal either. LOL Unless one wants to go off in the wilderness to live, most things in our lives are not primal. When it's hot and humid, turn the A/C on.

            What might be primal is trying to be green as much as possible but that's another thread.
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            • #7
              Grok could sleep in the shade or swim in the river anytime it was too hot. We are stuck in the city so we are very glad for AC.

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              • #8
                A/C and recirculated air labors my breathing. I love the heat. I also love the cold.
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                • #9
                  I think one's ability to deal with more extreme temps is an indication of being physically robust, however. But just because a physically fit person can deal with higher temps, does not mean they want to do so.

                  Grok would be eating twinkies, sitting in a laz-y-boy, drinking beer, in an environmentally-controlled room and never exercising if he had the option. WE ARE GROK, GROK IS US.
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                  • #10
                    I think AC has made people a lot less heat-tolerant. It's getting so folks are only comfortable within a small parameter of temperatures, they can't take the heat in the summer and and they can't stand the cold in the winter. So we just huddle inside in our artificial environments. AC is just another one of those modern conveniences that is contributing to the overall wussification of Americans in my opinion. Something's wrong when you can't hack the elements wherever you are and can only be comfortable in some canned-air environment. That's about as non-primal as you can get.

                    I live in an area with high humidity where it gets to be in the 90s and above quite frequently in the summer. You just learn to deal and find ways to keep cool. That said, on those really hot days I do appreciate walking into an air conditioned store and spending time in that cool, refreshing environment. I just don't want to have to rely on that for my overall comfort.

                    On a related topic, I'm learning to increase my cold tolerance by taking cold showers every day. It really does seem to be working.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rucker_z View Post
                      AC is just another one of those modern conveniences that is contributing to the overall wussification of Americans in my opinion. Something's wrong when you can't hack the elements wherever you are and can only be comfortable in some canned-air environment. That's about as non-primal as you can get.
                      I agree Rucker_z, to me AC is something that I have taken on as a challenge to not use as much as possible. I do use it in my office only because I cannot get a breeze in there and sweaty business casual is not good when going to meetings but I spend as much time as possible without AC because I feel better when I don't use it.

                      Before I went primal, I was working on acclimatizing myself to deal with the heat doing things like running the heater in my car, during the summer, in Houston. Now it can be 105 outside and I'm comfortable as long as I keep hydrated. I think our bodies were designed to deal with hot weather more so than cold. If I get too hot, find some shade and I'm okay. Cold weather is a different subject for me, I don't like the cold and don't tolerate it well. Guess that is my next challenge.

                      If anyone is interested, the Badwater Ultramarathon website has some interesting articles about acclimatizing to the heat. Here is the link: http://www.badwater.com/training/index.html

                      To me getting used to the heat is more of a challenge than trying to follow what Grok would do. I look at it the same was as I do going barefoot, if I do it right, my body will adapt, get stronger and I'll be better off without these things.
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                      • #12
                        Cold showers are magical. I have an A/C in the bedroom, but none in the rest of the apartment. A cool/cold shower at the end of the day really takes the edge off the NYC summer.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by whiteblackred View Post
                          My guess is no, but is there a real benefit to going windows open as most of the country is suffering through heat waves? What about heat?

                          I suppose it depneds which Grok and what aspect of Grok you are trying to immitate. Groks lived in various environements, including ice age tundras. From a temperature aspec, AC or no AC would make no difference.

                          If on the other hand you want to have a smaller environmental footprint as Grok did, then you could find yourself a cave or maybe build a hut like the 11,000 year-old one pictured below and go without AC or fancy landscaping.


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                          —Robert A. Heinlein

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asturian View Post
                            If on the other hand you want to have a smaller environmental footprint as Grok did, then you could find yourself a cave or maybe build a hut like the 11,000 year-old one pictured below and go without AC or fancy landscaping.

                            Mr. Ski would be thrilled. He hates yardwork and isn't that fond of dressing up either. LOL
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by texas.grok View Post

                              If anyone is interested, the Badwater Ultramarathon website has some interesting articles about acclimatizing to the heat. Here is the link: http://www.badwater.com/training/index.html
                              Thanks for the link!

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