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  • Good bye primal blueprint

    I just wanted to announce that I am no longer following the PB. For the past month I have been eating tons of food to fuel my training, and eating sweet shit really helps. I still eat all natural, gluten-free/lactose-free, though. But I now eat lots of fruits, white rice, lentils, soaked oats, and the occasional organic candy bar. On top of that I still eat tons of meat, eggs (back to 12 a day), butter and olive oil. My macro breakdown is about 40/30/30 F/P/C.

    I'm not killing myself am I? I am still better off than CW?
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    I'm betting you're still better off than most. Good luck in your ventures!
    I grok, therefore I am.

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    • #3
      if you train hard you have to eat more carbs, right? it's not primal and maybe not the best best you could do, but you're still better off than sitting on your butt eating McD's and cocoa puffs.

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      • #4
        Are you still going to be hanging out in the forums?

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        • #5
          well besides the lentils, oats, candy, and rice you are still eating pretty healthy, so more power to you duder.

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          • #6
            Homemade lentil stew over white rice with butter is crazy good You're young, you're avoiding the worst stuff, you'll be more than fine. Don't worry, just don't let it be a slippery slope and get back into fried foods, gluten, etc...
            And, if you feel like you've gotten everything you can from your book then donate it to your local library so you can help others

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rphlslv View Post
              But I now eat lots of fruits, white rice, lentils, soaked oats, and the occasional organic candy bar.
              I know what Robb Wolf would say - that if you needed more carbs for whatever you were doing you could eat yams or sweet potatoes. So you don't actually need to eat the grains and legumes. That said, I suppose there's no agreement about just how harmful, or not, some of these anti-nutrients in grains and legumes are, and you are soaking them.

              I guess you could rigorously eliminate the grains and legumes for a month and then challenge yourself, say, with a darn great bowl of oatmeal porridge and see if you get a reaction ... and so on through these foodstuffs. Then you know either way. I find a bowl of porridge even when properly soured will sometimes (not always) give me a sneezing fit, and that used to happen even without using an elimination/challenge protocol, so I guess I probably am best to avoid it. (Beer does the same thing to me - worst luck.) Maybe you're OK on oats.

              Actually, maybe it's worth pre-ordering Robb's book. He may well have some specific advice for endurance athletes in it:

              http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Solution.../dp/0982565844

              On the fruit, I guess it depends what "lots" means. Who'd want to totally forgo it? But it is high in fructose, so it's best not to go totally mad on it. Fructose can have some nasty effects on the body - particularly the liver:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

              On top of that I still eat tons of meat, eggs (back to 12 a day), butter and olive oil. My macro breakdown is about 40/30/30 F/P/C.

              I'm not killing myself am I? I am still better off than CW?
              I think food quality - in effect, micronutrients - is more important for health than macronutrient ratios. So long as you're getting enough of the right fats and enough fat-soluble vitamins I'd guess you'd probably be fine on that even if a different ratio would be better in some absolute sense.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lewis View Post

                On the fruit, I guess it depends what "lots" means. Who'd want to totally forgo it? But it is high in fructose, so it's best not to go totally mad on it. Fructose can have some nasty effects on the body - particularly the liver:
                Thank you for having a moderate outlook on fruit.

                I say that because I consume a helping of blueberries and strawberries daily. Sometimes I will substitute peaches for the strawberries, but 90% of the time it's those berries. I wish more people here would understand that fruit doesn't have to be demonized and can in fact be a daily food.

                I guess one of the reasons many here don't have a moderate idea on it is due to being severely overweight, but I think that healthy people can make fruit a daily food without issues.

                Maybe I am alone in this

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                • #9
                  Lewis: I haven't had oatmeal in over one year. A few days ago I had it for breakfast and I felt perfectly fine. Same thing for the rice, beans and lentils. None of that stuff seems to bother me now that I have reintroduced it after months of going without it. However I seem to have some problems with gluten and dairy so those are out forever.

                  Yeah I'll still post around the forums, this is a great place to learn and share experiences.

                  My fruit intake is usually 2 bananas a day and some raisins. I also have some organic raw honey (what I call "candy" lol) and I eat about 1 tbsp a day.

                  Thanks all for the reassurance.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rivvin View Post
                    I wish more people here would understand that fruit doesn't have to be demonized and can in fact be a daily food.
                    Watch who you're calling a fruit there, paly.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by daemonized View Post
                      watch who you're calling a fruit there, paly.
                      lololol
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rivvin View Post
                        I guess one of the reasons many here don't have a moderate idea on it is due to being severely overweight, but I think that healthy people can make fruit a daily food without issues.

                        Maybe I am alone in this
                        I'm 5'11" 178, down from 217 in 11/09. I lost 30 lbs going LC and working out, but stalled. I went PB and broke through to start losing again and found that PB made it really easy to regulate my weight. A few weeks back I started casually adding 1/4 cup of blueberries or 4-5 strawberries to my daily intake, and noticed they triggered cravings and some weight gain.

                        Insulin and will power?

                        That being said, I was a huge fan of bananas and apples before PB, but always noticed they made me feel more hungry after eating one than making me feel satisfied.
                        Maybe I'm just sensitive to fructose?

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                        • #13
                          Have you ever tested your blood glucose levels 1 and 2 hours after eating, " lots of fruits, white rice, lentils, soaked oats, and the occasional organic candy bar."?
                          Checking BGLs is one way to see how your body handles these foods. You can get a cheap meter ($10) and strips (50/$20) at Walmart.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rivvin View Post
                            Thank you for having a moderate outlook on fruit.

                            I say that because I consume a helping of blueberries and strawberries daily. Sometimes I will substitute peaches for the strawberries, but 90% of the time it's those berries. I wish more people here would understand that fruit doesn't have to be demonized and can in fact be a daily food.

                            I guess one of the reasons many here don't have a moderate idea on it is due to being severely overweight, but I think that healthy people can make fruit a daily food without issues.

                            Maybe I am alone in this
                            I leave room for about 50g of carbs a day. In my world that is a pretty good amount of fruit. That might be about three cups of mixed berries or thereabouts. I LOVE FRUIT!
                            I grok, therefore I am.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by marcadav View Post
                              Have you ever tested your blood glucose levels 1 and 2 hours after eating, " lots of fruits, white rice, lentils, soaked oats, and the occasional organic candy bar."?
                              Checking BGLs is one way to see how your body handles these foods. You can get a cheap meter ($10) and strips (50/$20) at Walmart.
                              Is there any other way I can find out? I feel fine and never crash, and I don't get cravings at all, and pretty much I have to shove food down my throat to reach my caloric goal. :P

                              Is it possible that some people are made to thrive on high/moderate carb (200-300g)? I took the metabolic typing test and I scored mixed type.
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