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  • #31
    "What's Wrong With 'Me'?"

    I think 95% of our population was absent from school the day they taught how to use the objective vs. nominative case after a proposition. So many people try to sound educated and "proper" by saying "between he and I" or "with she and I." I think so many people were warned not to start a sentence with "Me and him" that it was erased from our entire lexicon. It's proper to say "between him and me" or "with her and me."

    I cringe every time I hear radio personalities and newscasters falling into this trap (i.e. folks who should know better...)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Primal View Post
      "What's Wrong With 'Me'?"

      I think 95% of our population was absent from school the day they taught how to use the objective vs. nominative case after a proposition. So many people try to sound educated and "proper" by saying "between he and I" or "with she and I." I think so many people were warned not to start a sentence with "Me and him" that it was erased from our entire lexicon. It's proper to say "between him and me" or "with her and me."

      I cringe every time I hear radio personalities and newscasters falling into this trap (i.e. folks who should know better...)

      [/vent]
      You're right! They probably only covered it for one day. And 95% of the world needs repetition to remember and understand.

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      • #33
        The most annoying to me after improper contractions is "cause" where "because" should be, it is not a short form! I don't expect people to be perfect, but dropping the 'be' completely change the meaning.
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        • #34
          I think the people write cause, instead of because, are afraid of PrimalNavyWife, and her ability to kick their ASS... 'Cause it should be written with an apostrophe. And it retains it's meaning. Granted, it's slang. And when SAID, at least on the west coast, you can HEAR the difference. I can't understand people as I get closer to the midwest and beyond. So I have NO idea what the hell they are trying to say anyhow. They drop letters all over town. I have to gather them back up to figure it out.

          For example, it took me 10 minutes talking to a woman in Boston to determine that her lost item was in the DWOR... WTF is a DWOR???? You mean DRAWER??? Then SAY IT!!!!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by twinmama View Post
            I can't understand people as I get closer to the midwest and beyond. So I have NO idea what the hell they are trying to say anyhow. They drop letters all over town. I have to gather them back up to figure it out.

            For example, it took me 10 minutes talking to a woman in Boston to determine that her lost item was in the DWOR... WTF is a DWOR???? You mean DRAWER??? Then SAY IT!!!!
            I'll help you out with Beantown-speak. Bostonians remove lots of Rs. Examples: chowdah (chowder), cah (car), tiya (tire), yahd (yard), etc. Not sure what we do with all those Rs but I suspect they are floating around in the Hahbah (harbor).

            Thanks for the chuckle! BTW, DWOR is more Rhode Island; Bostonians would say DRAW (for drawer).
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            • #36
              Didn't read the whole thread so I apologize if these have already been mentioned.

              One of my pet peeves is 'I could care less'. This makes NO SENSE whatsoever. The correct term is 'I couldn't care less'.

              Another is the use of the word then instead of than (I'd rather go to the range THAN the movies, too many people use 'then the movies').

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              • #37
                I love this thread! I am a self-affirmed grammar stickler; recently finished reading "eats, shoots & leaves" and highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in grammar and punctuation.

                I used to work at a summer camp and was known amongst the kids as the grammar corrector. All of them used the ear-pinching "me and my friend;" as soon as I heard it, I had to automatically make a comment. It gets me every time I hear it!

                There are also certain words that always get put into the wrong place.

                For instance: "whereas" vs. "while" in cases of comparisons.

                "whereas implies that two clauses in a sentence do not agree with one another (e.g., "A causes B whereas C causes D"); "while", on the other hand, is used for temporal comparisons (e.g., "I cleaned while she read")

                Or how about "since" vs. "because"

                "because" implies causation whereas "since" is another temporal distinction which is often used as a causation-explaining word.

                Ending sentences with prepositions: very tacky!

                I also want to give a shout out to punctuation, and the lack of correct punctuation in the modern world. I rode the train today and where were many signs that all desperately needed punctuation. Example: "Caution doors close when train is in motion." Where is the colon, or at least a comma?

                Poor apostrophes too. How many plurals have you seen where the writer sticks an unnecessary apostrophe in there out of sheer confusion? Fruit's and vegetable's on sale this weekend only!

                I could really rant about this for hours!
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                • #38
                  I was very hesitant to bring up the "loose" vs "lose" thing in the other thread for fear of being branded a Grammar Nazi.

                  Who knew I was sitting in the middle of a good old fashioned Grammar Nazi Party rally the entire time? Hell to the Furor! HA!

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                  • #39
                    A lot of people don't seem to realize that "a lot" is two words; however, it's very easy to remember. You wouldn't write, "I'll take alittle break this summer" so why write, "Eating alot of steak is yummy"?
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                    • #40
                      DWOR is more Rhode Island; Bostonians would say DRAW (for drawer).
                      I've lived in RI my whole life and never heard "DWOR." :shrug: Definitely "DRAW" and "CAH" etc...

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                      • #41
                        A gem from my local newspaper yesterday: "Smoke envelopes Moscow."

                        Ugh...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by cerebelumsdayoff View Post

                          ...

                          Poor apostrophes too. How many plurals have you seen where the writer sticks an unnecessary apostrophe in there out of sheer confusion? Fruit's and vegetable's on sale this weekend only!

                          ...
                          It is my experience that most young writers have somehow learned (or decided on their own) that apostrophes are a decorative item of some sort rather than punctuation that aids in clarity.

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                          • #43
                            I have read a blogger who uses "as that" in place of because. As in, "I left work early as that I had a dentist appointment." I don't even know if this is actually wrong, but it just always interrupts my flow of reading because I don't instantly know what she means. I suppose it's a regional thing? I'm not sure I've ever seen it any where else, and she's otherwise well-written.

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                            • #44
                              I'll admit, I'm an egregious user of the fragment sentence. I use it commonly in this arena because I treat this as a conversation and; therefore, write in a "train of thought" fashion. One thing that bugs the hell out of me is the run on fragments. "Ate a sandwich brown dog wished for a star hung my hat to dry." I can almost decipher that, but it took me some time to figure it out. It was something someone wrote on a blog I followed once upon a time. I can understand using a run on (almost, train of thought type thing); I can understand using a fragment. Piling it together is heinous. I realize that people not familiar with the language may drop the subject, not realizing it isn't included in the verb conjugation. Bu to "hear" a native speaker "talk" like that just makes me want to go see what these teachers are teaching, because it sure as hell isn't the English I grew up with.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mizski View Post
                                I'll help you out with Beantown-speak. Bostonians remove lots of Rs. Examples: chowdah (chowder), cah (car), tiya (tire), yahd (yard), etc. Not sure what we do with all those Rs but I suspect they are floating around in the Hahbah (harbor).
                                My wife tells the story of being lost in Boston and getting directions to get off the T at "Knot Station". Took a couple of laps before she figured it out it was "North Station".

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