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    Hi

    I'm new to this forum, but I have been doing primal for about 2 months now.
    Unfortunately, there is 1 annoying side effect. My hands are always cold, whether I eat or not.

    Is there some secret food/ingredient/excercise/ (some other thing) that would help me get rid of my problem?

    Grts
    Last edited by Lazybastard; 06-21-2010, 12:51 AM.

  • #2
    This is a new thing for you? (They weren't always cold before you went Primal?)

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    • #3
      I have the same issue. I think it's IFing that causes it in me. I really can't offer a solution though other than to dress warm and drink lots of hot tea.
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      • #4
        I get cold hands now too...but for me it is only when I'm in a fasted state and in a chilly environment (for example... at work[a/c way too cold] before I eat if I'm IF'ing BFast)...but once I break my fast over lunch (granted I do go outside in the hot Florida sun) I'm fine
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        • #5
          I work inside in the AC too and IF pretty much every day. I feel like I'm cold blooded now. It's a side effect that I'm okay with though.
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          • #6
            It started with getting primal.

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            • #7
              I'm pretty sure I read eating more fats will make you warmer. You body will naturally regulate temperature by chilling the extremities hands feet, ears, to maintain higher temps for the organs. Maybe you're primal, but not getting enough fats? I did that for a few weeks with the ingrained fear of fats many of us have. Cold hands can point to circulatory issues for obese and pre diabetics. My feet used to fall asleep all the time before changing my diet for the better. I hadn't even thought about it until typing this post, but that hasn't happened in the two months since the diet change.

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              • #8
                Eating lots of fat doesn't seem to help with me. I don't eat many carbs so, my diet is pretty much fats and protein and my fingers still get cold. My blood pressure has always be great too. If there's an easy solution, I don't know what it is.
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                • #9
                  My hands and feet get cold ever since I went primal. I don't know what causes it and I'm pretty used to it, but it's definitely something that started with this lifestyle.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Daemonized View Post
                    Eating lots of fat doesn't seem to help with me. I don't eat many carbs so, my diet is pretty much fats and protein and my fingers still get cold. My blood pressure has always be great too. If there's an easy solution, I don't know what it is.
                    Maybe Vibrams will come out with some primal gloves so we can start walking on all fours again.

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                    • #11
                      I have always had problems with being cold -- not just my hands and feet, but right to my core (and totally unrelated to weight and/or body composition). Since eating more PB, my core temperature is somewhat better. Hands and feet are still an issue, but nowhere as bad as they once were.

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                      • #12
                        I would say that I am a summer person in general. I really don't mind the heat as long as I drink plenty of water. It's the winter cold that I don't like.
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                        • #13
                          I used to ALWAYS be cold, especially my hands. I thought it just went with the territory since I'm a smaller framed female. But after upping my calories (more fat/protein) I can honestly say it is so much better. I added more coconut oil and started eating lunch (which I would usually skip before). I also do more light jogging than I did before (nothing strenuous by any means).

                          I notice I still get really cold when I fast, though.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Grol View Post
                            Maybe Vibrams will come out with some primal gloves so we can start walking on all fours again.
                            Grol, you got me laughing. Maybe we also could get group rates to have tails added back where tails should go.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lazybastard View Post
                              Unfortunately, there is 1 annoying side effect. My hands are always cold, whether I eat or not.
                              Are you exercising? How intensively? If it's a circulation issue, exercise *may* help. Or it may not. lol

                              I have Raynaud's disease (the primary form which is less serious....the secondary form is associated with autoimmune disorders and is more serious)
                              http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ray...isease/ds00433
                              "Raynaud's disease is a condition that causes some areas of your body such as your fingers, toes, tip of your nose and your ears to feel numb and cool in response to cold temperatures or stress. In Raynaud's disease, smaller arteries that supply blood to your skin narrow, limiting blood circulation to affected areas."

                              So far, I've found nothing that helps significantly aside from keeping warm. I use a microwaveable buckwheat pillow thingie to warm my feet or hands as needed (which is constantly in the winter). Also warming in warm water is highly efficient.

                              Typically, calcium channel blockers are used as a drug tx for Raynaud's. This is interesting because calcium (and sodium) are 'contractors' - they contract our muscles and blood vessels. Magnesium and potassium are relaxors - they relax our muscles and blood vessels. Magnesium has been nicknamed 'nature's calcium channel blocker'. Hmmmmm.

                              I've tweaked my calcium and magnesium intake for years, trying to work out what's optimal for me. Optimzing vitamin D reduces overall calcium needs (see my doc below) and my D does fall in the optimal range so I have reduced my calcium intake (from food and supps) accordingly. 600 mg calcium per day from all sources seems just about right for me.....and 600-1000 mg magnesium. I'm slowly lowering towards 600mg.....I previously needed around 1000 mg but think I may need less now.

                              Vitamin K intake from your (our) high level of meat consumption may also be a factor. Some theorize that K intake, because it makes platelets more sticky (oversimplification but....whatever), whether from meat or veggies, can exacerbate circulation issues in the extremeties. The solution to that could be eating more fish, taking fish oil, grapeseed extract, pycnogenol or a baby aspirin a day (but wrt the aspiring, not without discussing with a trusted health care provider first).

                              I've tweaked my K intake in a variety of ways and it doesn't seem to be a factor for me. For antioxidant protection for my skin, I do take grape seed extract and pycnogenol - no difference in circulation or Raynaud's episodes noted. I also take a lot of fish oil (mood stability) and have noted no change in Raynaud's episodes. For what it's worth.....my very own N=1

                              Do read up on vitamin d though (below and at vitamindcouncil.org) and make that a top priority.....also it's worth optimizing your Ω3:Ω6 ratios and working towards optimizing your potassium:sodium ratios (see below and see this. We probably evolved eating closer to a 10:1 potassium to sodium ratio and now eat much more sodium than potassium.



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