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    I've had to kill a few things - mostly mice, and once a bird. And what I thought was a snake (turned out to be a legless lizard. I felt terrible about that!) and I wonder if I could kill a chicken. I don't know. What troubled me most about killing the bird was the terrible state it was in, I felt so sorry for the poor thing. It was a pointless death. But could I kill a chicken that I had raised and would have no reason to die other than to go in my oven?

    Have you killed your own food? How did you feel about it?


    The other thing is the cleaning and skinning. I think I'd struggle with that.

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    Hello Helen, I am a freedive spearfisherman. I hunt underwater, there is nothing more primal than hunting and killing your own food. I show great respect to the animals and try to be as humane as possible. Find the quickest ways to kill the chickens and go to it. Good luck
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    • #3
      I actually would love hunt for my food, but being in college and all i do not have the time, nor do i live in the proper area to do so. Though last summer when I was camping I did manage to get myself a rabbit, and to be honest it was quite tasty.

      And cleaning and skinning is not fun to do honest, but I think I would be much better the second time, and the third time, fourth time......
      Though if you do not want to do it you can always find someone to do it for you. My brother in law hunts deer, and takes it to the butcher who cuts it up for him. Deer sausage takes awesome! Its great because it is so lean you can add all kinds of fat!

      When I am older I would love to live somewhere where I can hunt for most of my own food, or at least have chickens

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      • #4
        I would also love to kill my own food. It's on my to-do-list.

        When I was growing up, I watched my grandmother kill a chicken every Sunday... I'd complain and cry, but then I'd eat it. Seen pigs too. And fishing was too common. Damn I miss Brazil.
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        • #5
          I grew up in a hunting family, so I learned at a young age where meat came from. I learned to clean fish by myself when I was 7 or 8. Through the years the animals got bigger, but they're all essentially the same.

          Fish were one thing. They're sort of low on the evolutionary scale, so I didn't feel so bad about killing them. Shooting a deer, you're sort of detached because there's space between you (with a gun) and the deer. It's still hard your first time though. Chickens were hard for me, being that you're right there, holding them, having to do the deed. I decided a while back that if I was going to be a meat eater, I'd have to be willing to kill an animal myself.

          Not to say that' it's easy (because it's not) but it does become more familiar. I think that if you ever get to the point where you can kill an animal without feeling anything about it, there's a problem. Every time I kill an animal, it's a very spiritual and emotional moment. It makes me really appreciate the food I'm eating.

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          • #6
            Pretty fine with it. I'll try to kill and eat the local rabbits but they're faster than I am so I stopped trying. It's kind of irritating how these days if you try to stab bunny rabbits in the head all of the bleeding heart hippie vegetarians think you're some monster when you're just being yourself and trying to have a more delicious life. In my eyes humanity has supremacy over the less contemplative and self-conscious species and while I don't like to see an animal suffer, that is simply a mis-firing of evolutionarily cognitive adaptation that originally held true for humans and for a good reason, because humans need to treat each other well or else humans make life worse for the rest of humanity and themselves . I'm fine with who I am, I don't need to seize every single damn opportunity to be caring and compassionate to every single insignificant entity on the planet so I can feel smug about the value system that I have arbitrarily adopted and followed. Killing and eating animals makes life better for humans and I encourage every human who loves to kill and eat animals to kill and eat as many as you can and grow stronger. And make sure to share with your fellow humans so that we may all benefit and grow stronger and happier as a community.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by primal hunter View Post
              Hello Helen, I am a freedive spearfisherman. I hunt underwater, there is nothing more primal than hunting and killing your own food. I show great respect to the animals and try to be as humane as possible. Find the quickest ways to kill the chickens and go to it. Good luck
              Hector
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stabby View Post
                Pretty fine with it. I'll try to kill and eat the local rabbits but they're faster than I am so I stopped trying.
                LOL you are horrible.
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                • #9
                  I try to fish every weekend from my kayak. Did no good this morning but I often bring home a feed. Very satisfying being able to provide for the family in such a simple and direct way. Also, I have no problem bleeding, killing and cleaning the fish - some fish need to be bled otherwise the flesh becomes tainted
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                  Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                  • #10
                    This reminds me of Dr. Harris' latest post. http://www.paleonu.com/

                    He looks so sinister. Nice shot by the way.
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                    • #11
                      As a kid I yearly helped with chicken butchering. Later as a teen, was involved a number of times with moose, deer, pigs, a couple of cows and lambs. One time I took a turn at the killing part with a chicken...lets just say it was not a clean swing of the axe and I felt rather bad (for a few minutes, anyway). A few years ago on a survival course we were in pairs and had to kill and clean a rabbit to eat. I volunteered to do the skinning/cleaning so my partner was the one who had to bop the bunny with the big club of wood. I felt I had the 'easier' part.

                      In the end, I don't really relish the killing part, but can do it if I had to (though I think different when I see the flea ridden neighbourhood rabbits nibbling on my garden). It's good to be familiar with where our food really comes from, rather than knowing meat simply as something sterile that comes on a styrofoam tray covered in plastic or on butcher paper. That's how my husband likes his meat, and he has no desire to be more intimately aware of any details. That said, we have ordered some grass fed meat that we will probably be going out to the farm raising it to pick up, so we can visit the animals and see how they are brought up. Looking forward to it.
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                      • #12
                        I grew up in a hunting family too. My Dad taught me how to clean fish and birds. I have harvested fish, deer, partridge, and turkey (nice one a couple of weeks ago). I am grateful for the meat and feel thankful for the opportunity that is provided and don't necessarily relish the killing part. I take great care in being properly prepared to make a humane kill, I owe it to the game I hunt. I respect the animals that are taken and try to use as much of the animal as I can so as not to waste any of the "gift".
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                        • #13
                          My husband and I along with our 5 kids raise our own cows (dairy and beef), pigs, goats (not for meat), sheep and chickens. We do all our own butchering. It is not always easy but over the years I've become very uncomfortable eating any meat we didn't raise.

                          I've done the killing myself before but generally I leave that to my husband who does it because we need to - not because he enjoys it. I remember the first pig he did....not a great experience for him but it's become a lot more "you gotta do what...." for us since then. We also hunt in season.

                          We decided to provide a caring and healthy home for our animals and we serve them daily - until they serve us. I sleep well knowing we take excellent care of our animals and feed them the way they were meant to be fed and their lives serve my family and provide excellent nutrition for me and my children. I also know they are treated humanely both in their lives and their deaths are humane

                          The first time or times are always the hardest but it becomes easier.

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                          • #14
                            I remember when I was young, I would always go to this catfish farm (we were young, catching something every two seconds is way more exciting at that age) with my great uncle, cousin, and my father. One time, when we took our fish to have them skinned by the owner, she tossed the organs and skin on the ground for her dog and a bunch of kittens to eat. Almost all the kittens knew to stand back and wait for the dog to get his fill first, except one... the cat walked up and in no less than a millisecond the dog snapped and killed the cat faster than I could imagine. It was the first time I saw death happen in front of me. That's when I learned the brutal lesson of how nature truly operates, and how "wild" it really is. I now don't have an issue with killing animals, but I also find it to be a humbling and emotional experience. Now, when I look back on that moment, I can't help but think about the similar ideas in "The Heart of Darkness".
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Stabby View Post
                              Pretty fine with it. I'll try to kill and eat the local rabbits but they're faster than I am so I stopped trying. It's kind of irritating how these days if you try to stab bunny rabbits in the head all of the bleeding heart hippie vegetarians think you're some monster when you're just being yourself and trying to have a more delicious life. In my eyes humanity has supremacy over the less contemplative and self-conscious species and while I don't like to see an animal suffer, that is simply a mis-firing of evolutionarily cognitive adaptation that originally held true for humans and for a good reason, because humans need to treat each other well or else humans make life worse for the rest of humanity and themselves . I'm fine with who I am, I don't need to seize every single damn opportunity to be caring and compassionate to every single insignificant entity on the planet so I can feel smug about the value system that I have arbitrarily adopted and followed. Killing and eating animals makes life better for humans and I encourage every human who loves to kill and eat animals to kill and eat as many as you can and grow stronger. And make sure to share with your fellow humans so that we may all benefit and grow stronger and happier as a community.

                              Maybe I need a bow or something.
                              One of the smartest, most illuminating things Ive ever read about food and eating. +1

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