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  • Wine.......do you think it hurts progress?

    Just want to see if anyone feels that wine may hurt the fat burning process. While it contains very little carbs (most of the calories are from alcohol), it does still trigger an insulin response as alcohol undergoes very little digestion and tends to cause the body to send an overdose of insulin.

    I enjoy a glass or two while winding down for the night, but I'm just wondering if it is hurting my progress at all. Granted, I'm in great shape, but I can't help but wonder if I can be in better shape without the wine.

    All thoughts welcome!!

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    If one is trying to lose body fat, I would always recommend cutting out all alcohol.

    I am actually having a nice Bordeaux right now.....I enjoy wine from time to time, whenever I buy a bottle. It will probably be a few weeks, or a month, before I buy another one. Drinking wine everyday, especially more than 1 glass, is not something I feel comfortable with personally, nor do I think its a great health decision.
    Last edited by lmyers04; 06-10-2010, 06:21 PM.

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    • #3
      Admittedly, it may be a setback in some ways, but I'll take those over little setbacks for the other significant health and, yes mental (stress reduction) benefits.

      In almost all of the cultures with the longest living populations...taking a daily nip is common practice. Now, admittedly the key is moderation. A little is good, a lot is not. In other words...basically a couple of drinks a day for a man, one for a woman.

      But don't take just my word for it...check out "The Blue Zones", "Healthy at 100", "Younger Next Year", "Longevity Made Simple" and "50 Secrets of the World's Longest Living People". All mention or discuss population studies that support this fact.

      Cheers!
      Last edited by Phil-SC; 06-11-2010, 03:26 AM. Reason: more info

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      • #4
        I'm trying to lose weight so I'm abstaining right now but once I'm at my goal weight and fitness level, PASS THE VINO!!!
        The more I see the less I know for sure.
        -John Lennon

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Phil-SC View Post
          Admittedly, it may be a setback in some ways, but I'll take those over little setbacks for the other sginificant health and, yes mental (stress reduction) benefits.
          same. It's one of life's pleasures for me. I knew if I cut out drinking completely I would lose weight but I wanted whatever I did to be sustainable, and not a grind. And actually the weight has fallen off me pretty quickly (however as I always state here, I wasnt looking to lose a lot to begin with)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by lmyers04 View Post
            If one is trying to lose body fat, I would always recommend cutting out all alcohol.

            I am actually having a nice Bordeaux right now.....I enjoy wine from time to time, whenever I buy a bottle. It will probably be a few weeks, or a month, before I buy another one. Drinking wine everyday, especially more than 1 glass, is not something I feel comfortable with personally, nor do I think its a great health decision.

            Oh, I certainly agree. I guess to really make my post more accurate, I will generally have around a 1/2 glass (sometimes two 1/2 glasses), while watching ESPN or reading. So actually your looking at 1/2 glass to 1 glass per day. Given the health benefits of moderate wine consumption, I guess that's not bad. I do think I'll try not having any for 2 weeks and monitor the results.

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            • #7
              Agree with everyone else. If you are seriously trying to lose body fat, then ease up on the grape juice. If not, enjoy in moderation. A glass or two once or twice a week has some benefits too. I super HEART my wine. it's all about the balance..... Eat well, sleep well, drink well

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jrc64 View Post
                Oh, I certainly agree. I guess to really make my post more accurate, I will generally have around a 1/2 glass (sometimes two 1/2 glasses), while watching ESPN or reading. So actually your looking at 1/2 glass to 1 glass per day. Given the health benefits of moderate wine consumption, I guess that's not bad. I do think I'll try not having any for 2 weeks and monitor the results.
                Thats exactly what I do. Game 4 excitement! I love wine, and if theres a bottle in the house, I'll have some, so I try to buy bottles weeks apart, so as to have 1 week on, one or two weeks off, sort of. And, I definetly think there are health benefits if done this way. Drinking more than that, I feel like the amount of alcohol being consummed starts to outweigh its benefits. cheers! *clink*

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                • #9
                  I have noticed that I need to cut the alcohol way down / out for weight loss. I have been enjoying a couple glasses with dinner for a very long time now though, and going to 0 is really not anything I want to do long term. I haven't heard about any health risks from moderate consumption that outweigh any benefits + being one of life's pleasures for me. Beer on the other hand I have stopped drinking at home, only when I'm out and it's hot or just the thing to drink.
                  Go Lakers!!
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                  • #10
                    I've found while trying to lose body fat that I absolutely have to abstain from wine (sniff!). It seems that I can indulge in one glass per week without any detriment to my progress, but no more.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tfarny View Post
                      I have noticed that I need to cut the alcohol way down / out for weight loss. I have been enjoying a couple glasses with dinner for a very long time now though, and going to 0 is really not anything I want to do long term. I haven't heard about any health risks from moderate consumption that outweigh any benefits + being one of life's pleasures for me. Beer on the other hand I have stopped drinking at home, only when I'm out and it's hot or just the thing to drink.
                      Go Lakers!!
                      health risks outweighing benefits is just my opinion, a theory of mine. And, I consider drinking wine every night more than moderate comsumption. Thats why I allow for times for my body to be alcohol free, as I consider that to be a better picture of moderation. But, again, this is all my personal opinion, and not based on any studies Ive read or anything.

                      favorite wines???

                      me: french reds!
                      Last edited by lmyers04; 06-11-2010, 04:53 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Phil-SC View Post

                        But don't take just my word for it...check out "The Blue Zones", "Healthy at 100", "Younger Next Year", "Longevity Made Simple" and "50 Secrets of the World's Longest Living People". All mention or discuss population studies that support this fact.

                        Cheers!
                        I'm wary of those epidemiological studies - I bet most of those cultures also consume rice or bread, too. It's the usual deal of looking for a 'magic bullet' element within a diet. (ie Asians have less xyz type of cancer. Asians eat lots of tofu. Therefore soy must be good for you. Hmmm..) or the French Paradox, and now the Spanish Paradox.

                        There's plenty of similar studies that point to even moderate regular consumption of wine as an increased risk factor in breast cancer in particular as well as other cancers. Once a week or month is fine, but for women daily consumption is questionable.

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                        • #13
                          250ml of red wine per evening for heart health. And with so much good inexpensive wine here, why not! BTW, I lost weight from 82kg then stabilised at 72kg (180cm) without any reduction in wine intake
                          Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                          Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Helen in Oz View Post
                            Once a week or month is fine, but for women daily consumption is questionable.
                            no study is ever going to convince me that drinking alcohol every day is good for me.

                            and, good point on the magic bullet idea. Studies are always trying to pinpoint one particular thing, be it food, or macronutrient, that is responsible for all heath benefits. Im not saying that wine doesnt have its benefits, but to consume it daily based on these studies is exactly like consumming soy daily based on the fact that asians consume it regularly, and enjoy significantly less disease than westerners do. The asians and french and other meditteranean (god I butchered that) people historically consume larger amounts of fish, saturated fat (in the case of the french and spanish), and less refined grains that we have as a nation, so its likely many of these factors working synergistically(is that a word...?) that produce the overall good-health effects we see in these cultures.

                            once again i am not bashing wine! I love it, and dont want to rain on anyones parade, I just really disagree strongly with daily recommendations of alcohol, for women especially. Daily doses of anything is not moderation.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by peril View Post
                              250ml of red wine per evening for heart health.
                              I've heard so many SADers say this.

                              One more thing. My boyfriend does not drink, for personal reasons. Whenever he tells people this, not a single person has yet to ask "but what do you do about wine supplementation????"

                              I can safely say he is not hurting his health by not drinking, so I am cautious to place a lot of confidence in the daily wine-hearth health claim. It just smacks of "whole grains!"

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