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  • #31
    Originally posted by lmyers04 View Post
    grok was the ultimate performance athlete.......
    Lies, Grok didn't like to sweat and sat around contemplating the carb makeup of his meals.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by JimA2985 View Post
      I have to say, I think your approach is a bit hardline. Your story of your family's history broke my heart, but I don't think there's a person in the world who's going to go diabetic because they ate too many vegetables.

      And you might want to reevaluate your stance on exercise. Maybe it's not absolutely necessary for weightloss - but there's just a myriad of other benefits to it. If we're all trying to emulate "Grok's Lifestyle," I think we need to acknowledge that his life was not a sedentary one.
      If the vegetables are leafy greens, I'll agree with you. If they're starchy, I can't agree.

      I've tried emulating Grok's lifestyle when it comes to exercise. I'm not physically capable of doing it yet. Maybe when I get down into the 200s I'll be able to do more than move around a lot slowly. Right now, I can't. And I don't think I'll ever find it enjoyable, because it makes me sweat and I hate sweating more than just about anything else. Being sweaty makes me feel like I've walked through raw sewage. It's just gross.
      Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

      Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


      Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

      My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Rivvin View Post
        Lies, Grok didn't like to sweat and sat around contemplating the carb makeup of his meals.
        Annnnnd that's when you get put in the ignore list. Thanks for being so holier-than-thou and arrogant. Bye.
        Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

        Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


        Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

        My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Griff View Post
          Annnnnd that's when you get put in the ignore list. Thanks for being so holier-than-thou and arrogant. Bye.
          I am devastated.

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          • #35
            Just to be clear, Grok most definitely did "work out". I have been reading a great history of Australia and there is a lot of fascinating and detailed description about just how fit and buff they were, and how much they did "work out" because, let's face it, they had to. According to contemporary accounts, all males from teenage years on up could throw a spear with unerring accuracy 40-50 meters easily, and could throw 100 meters if the need arose, and they practiced all the time. One method of hunting large birds was to hold a fish in one's hand and lie down in the sun pretending to be dead, then when the bird came to snatch the fish away the hunter would reach up and wring the bird's neck. Something takes a bit of fitness, shall we say.
            And there are numerous examples of sports playing in our earliest history, and among hunter gatherers, and no evidence that Grok didn't play sports.

            I cannot possibly understand your argument if it's 100% anti-carb and also anti-exercise?
            If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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            • #36
              @Furry22: You seem to think you are better than Griff becasue you are "fit and active" and he's "fat and lazy". If so, not only would you not understand why people become fat, but you would also seem to lack the slightest amount of empathy for people whose genes and past environment were not as good as yours in terms of promoting a healthy weight.
              Last edited by SerialSinner; 06-09-2010, 12:09 PM.
              “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
              "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
              "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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              • #37
                [QUOTE=Griff;133994]If the vegetables are leafy greens, I'll agree with you. If they're starchy, I can't agree. QUOTE]

                Maybe starchy vegetables aren't ideal, but deadly? I doubt it. I don't think there was any type-2 diabetes 10,000 years ago. You have to come to the modern world and our 'Frankenfoods' to find that. But face it, one bit of CW that's correct is when your mama told you to "eat your vegetables."

                And I know, I know, there are plenty of cultures who are pure carnivores. But just look at our teeth - they're not all meat-eating teeth, are they?

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                • #38
                  +1serialsinner
                  and im a performance athlete (athletic fitness, powerlifting and londistance cycling) and im a 95% carnivore (with the exeption of a cucumber or avocado here n there and wine). and my results keep getting etter with the <20gr carbs i get.
                  challenge yourself
                  i blog here http://theprimalwoman.blogspot.com/

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SerialSinner View Post
                    @Furry22: You seem to think you are better than Griff becasue you are "fit and active" and he's "fat and lazy". If so, not only would you not understand why people become fat, but you would also seem to lack the slightest amount of empathy for people whose genes and past environment were not as good as yours in terms of promoting a healthy weight.
                    +1
                    I certainly don't agree with every single thing the OP is saying...I don't know what I'd do without my workouts, I thrive off of sweat and believe if it a very important part of this program and life in general...and I also think the OP's responses can be too over the top saying things like "its your own funeral" if someone eats a grain etc etc but Fury, your backlash is just as uncalled for..and ignorant.
                    The pain of discipline or the pain of regret? You choose.

                    Oh look - I made a Journal.

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                    • #40
                      when you find incisors on a cow ill conclude we dont have meateaters teeth. but a gorilla definately has some mighty incisors - are incisors now actually herbivore teeth? meh - the carnivore-herbivore discussion has been dealt with here on the formums SO many times...
                      challenge yourself
                      i blog here http://theprimalwoman.blogspot.com/

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                      • #41
                        [QUOTE=JimA2985;134009]
                        Originally posted by Griff View Post
                        If the vegetables are leafy greens, I'll agree with you. If they're starchy, I can't agree. QUOTE]

                        Maybe starchy vegetables aren't ideal, but deadly? I doubt it. I don't think there was any type-2 diabetes 10,000 years ago. You have to come to the modern world and our 'Frankenfoods' to find that. But face it, one bit of CW that's correct is when your mama told you to "eat your vegetables."

                        And I know, I know, there are plenty of cultures who are pure carnivores. But just look at our teeth - they're not all meat-eating teeth, are they?
                        Maybe I'm just ignorant, but are there really cultures out there who are pure carnivores? I'll admit I haven't done the research but I find it a bit hard to believe that they're not eating any plant life.
                        ~Sandy

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                        • #42
                          I didn't say we don't have meateater's teeth. We have both. We're omnivores.

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                          • #43
                            yes we are. omnivores whose natural diet has been scrwewd up from the womb. now we have to do our best to reverse it.
                            challenge yourself
                            i blog here http://theprimalwoman.blogspot.com/

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                            • #44
                              [QUOTE=Rosegin;134019]
                              Originally posted by JimA2985 View Post

                              Maybe I'm just ignorant, but are there really cultures out there who are pure carnivores? I'll admit I haven't done the research but I find it a bit hard to believe that they're not eating any plant life.
                              For the most part, yeah. I'd check out Weston Price's "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration." It's a good read, I'm still working my way through it. But there are several cultures in northern areas who eat almost exclusively meat.

                              Still, I don't think you can use those to make blanket statements about the entire species. But what do I know? I only have about a dozen posts to my name, lol.

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                              • #45
                                [QUOTE=Rosegin;134019]
                                Originally posted by JimA2985 View Post

                                Maybe I'm just ignorant, but are there really cultures out there who are pure carnivores? I'll admit I haven't done the research but I find it a bit hard to believe that they're not eating any plant life.
                                i guess the Masai and the Eskimo are the most common examples
                                challenge yourself
                                i blog here http://theprimalwoman.blogspot.com/

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