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  • #16
    Losing gut: possible
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    • #17
      Originally posted by rphlslv View Post
      Okay then I recommend the lean gains method. http://leangains.blogspot.com/

      perhaps you should try them both at the same time tis what i have been doing and the results have been sick. I think i will post a progress picture sometime soon, but when I started trying to gain some weight around mid april, and started at 163 pounds, after i just weighed myself at the gym today, and the scale was at 176. Plus I know all of my water weight is gone from the weekend. Did i mention that my abs are showing better?
      that is about 14 pounds of muscle. Do i expect those gain to be that great for the rest of the summer? Nope, are some of those noob gains? maybe since I moved from a 3 day to a five 5 workout routine, or maybe it is because of the sweet sweet hormone manipulation that I have been putting my body through :-)

      Its a bit complex what I have been doing, but if you really want some info on not only carb cycling, but calorie cycling as well I am more than willing to elaborate a bit!!

      lossing fat and gaining muscle at the same time (well basically at the same time) is totally possible

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      • #18
        Look into cortisol issues. sounds very very much like you have high cortisol levels. Stress induced cortisol is likely to cause your body to store fat around the bellybutton specifically. You diet is fine... beyond fine.

        I think you are working out far too much, physical activity, particularly stuff like p90x and BJJ is gonna release a ton of cortisol. Relax. Cut intense stuff down to a couple times a week and do something more mild on other days, or even do nothing sometimes. Make sure you are sleeping as long as you physically can. Do what you can to reduce other stresses in life, work, kids, etc.

        Additionally there are some supplements that people sometimes suggest for blunting cortisol but I'm not comfortable recommending anything except fish oil because I don't know enough about it myself and I don't wanna give bad advice.

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        • #19
          I hate to sound like a broken record but: A poor omega 3:6 tissue balance contributes heavily to leptin resistance. Ron Rosedale made an excellent point that I hadn't thought of in an inteview recently that the usual good 1:1-2 omega 3-6 intake would make sense only if we were all born this morning. If one goes many years with an out of whack balance and then starts eating a good ratio, they're still going to be out of whack because of all the previous tissue omega 6. The solution is to get a tissue concentration test and then if necessary (most likely) go heavy on the fish and fish oil and eliminate as much omega 6 as one can until the ratio is corrected.

          I just started really going hard on the omega 3 and foregoing omega 6 a week ago but already that little tiny bit of gut that i had is gone and I would probably have a sweet 6 pack if I didn't hate ab exercises so much.
          Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

          Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by EGYnutrition View Post
            Losing gut: possible
            yep, you must believe it. That's the first obstacle in your path.
            "I know what my body needs and what it can handle. There's no better way to achieve my goal than what im doing now. If my regimen leads to my death, be it in six days or six months...I will die fullfiled. The outcome is irrelavent so long as i steer towards my fate. If death is to be my prize, i welcome it with open arms."

            "A pound of meat a day keeps the doctor away"

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            • #21
              The stress of frustration could be making you release extra cortisol.
              "I know what my body needs and what it can handle. There's no better way to achieve my goal than what im doing now. If my regimen leads to my death, be it in six days or six months...I will die fullfiled. The outcome is irrelavent so long as i steer towards my fate. If death is to be my prize, i welcome it with open arms."

              "A pound of meat a day keeps the doctor away"

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              • #22
                Stabby, how much fish oil are we talkin' here? And what type of fish do you recommend for this type of balancing act? (I'm partial to herring myself.)

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                • #23
                  I'm thinking something like Robb Wolf's fish oil calculator http://whole9life.com/fish-oil/

                  I thought he was nutzo at first but looking back at it now I realize he knows that most people are going to have downright terrible ratios to start with.

                  Any fish is good as long as it offers tons of omega 3 and little omega 6. herring could work, I like salmon. Fish oil is best taken with natural mixed tocopherol to counteract the reactive oxygen species that get produced. Also it's best taken with and a lot of long-chain saturated fat (shouldn't be a problem!) to elongate it properly. It's important to only do this until the ratio is good. Drastically reduce omega 6 and increase omega 3 and then once the ratio is good go back to a normal ratio and ideally not too much of either 3 or 6 but that's a personal call I suppose. Supplementing with a little GLA throughout it may be a good idea too because without linoleic acid we can't produce GLA. Even if you can't find a practitioner to do tests I think just 1 week of this will benefit anyone without the risk of omega 3 dominance.
                  Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

                  Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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