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  • The Demonization of Meat

    Today I realized that meat is a demon in the eyes of many. I heard a co-worker say "i had the most nutritious meal last night for dinner... some from every single food group... well, except meat, but I had tofu so that counts."

    I hear a lot of negative comments about meat, in fact, I poked my head out of my cubicle and said to the co-worker "well i had a meatza last night so i had enough meat for the both of us."

    Her responce, "Ew!"

    And no, she's not vegan or vegetarian. She just "eats right" as she says.

    But it all led me to think, wow, whoever went out there to demonize meat certainly did it.
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    Healthy eating is one of those things that pertains to everyone but few will look past the basic cultural assumptions and prejudices. Nobody ever makes any healthy claims for meat because health claims are only required for an unhealthy product. cereal, crackers, processed dairy, granola bars, soy, fruit juice, etc. Those are what need the health claims. Vegetables and fruit don't really receive advertised health claims because it's implied that they're the be all end all of human nutrition; cause everyone's sick and unhealthy and nobody eats the amount recommended by agribusiness. But meat? What's good about meat? It doesn't have any fiber, you can't really fortify it and have you read The China Study? My point is made

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    • #3
      Yeah, I've noticed that too. Red meat in particular. I think it must be the saturated fat myth.

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      • #4
        I am not surprised. CW has been telling us for decades that Saturated Fat and Dietary Cholesterol are the Devil's plagues, and all should avoid them. Instead, the government has been telling us to eat lots of whole grains and more fruits/vegetables and limit red meat. I guess the more fruits/vegetables is good thing considering the SAD.

        All of this are based on past fallacy scientific experiments. The issue on Saturated Fat and Dietary Cholesterol being a "bad thing" (i.e., contributing to heart disease, etc) has been debunked many times, and yet many still believe otherwise.

        A "nutritious" meal for some is a big bowl of salad, a big bowl of brown rice, and a 2-3 ounce of meat (ALL fat removed)! LOL!

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        • #5
          In a couple posts I've mentioned the diet conventional doctors have my brother in law on to heal a very deep surgical wound. He is being force fed copious amounts of saturated fats and protein to rebuild tissue. What does a vegetarian do with such a wound and treatment? If CW surgeons and those administering to deep wounds understand the need for protein and fats for tissue regeneration, why isn't that extrapolated into having a healthy functioning body, gaping wound or not? I may be reaching, but I think this information about deep wound treatment could be repacked into a defense for why we eat as we do; and how and why the low fat and vegetarian dogmas are so unhealthy. I know that's been done in other ways, but every little bit helps. And this seems to be using CW against itself.

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          • #6
            It's weird how many regular meat-eaters constantly talk shit about meat. This must be a throwback to puritanical morals and aggressive child rearing - people just aren't satisfied unless they're continually punishing and chastising themselves.
            “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
              ...people just aren't satisfied unless they're continually punishing and chastising themselves.
              I punish myself with steak sauteed in butter several times a week.

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              • #8
                The less meat other people eat, the more there is for us.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by prib81 View Post
                  I punish myself with steak sauteed in butter several times a week.
                  Hee hee! I flagellated myself with three thick strips of bacon this morning...what we do for righteousness.

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                  • #10
                    People really beat their meat, and the meat does not deserve it.

                    We should not beat our meat, but rather embrace it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Helen in Oz
                      Buddhists are mostly vegetarian so it must be Right.
                      And the Buddha's physique speaks worlds about how healthy that is.
                      Subduction leads to orogeny

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                      • #12
                        I love the fat buddha. Have a large one on a shelf in my livingroom and a smaller one in my bedroom.

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                        • #13
                          I think there is a demonisation of dairy as well. I know people who avoid dairy when there is not good reason too. Most of these use soy milk instead which causes even more problems than dairy might. And eggs - don't get me started on eggs.
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                          • #14
                            I think it's funny that when Westerners think of Buddha they prefer the image of the fat Pu-Tai.
                            You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                            • #15
                              More generally, all the animal products are demonized as of lately.

                              Red meat is horrible for your colon and makes you get cancer. Butter and cream are full of evil saturated fats, but margarine and corn oil are heart healthy as they are free from cholesterol. Eggs are also full of fat and cholesterol. I don't even want to know how they would breed chickens that produce lower cholesterol eggs. Then anything obtained from animals is unethical period.

                              This is of course due to our fear of saturated fat and cholesterol. We are so used to thinking that those two substances are killers that we will blindly follow any argument that supports the false lipid hypothesis. Case point: vegetarianism and veganism. That is exactly how they sell many of their ideas, by focusing and targeting people's fear of saturated fat and cholesterol, to get their point across. They probably know that the average Joe may not care as much about how a cow is killed, but that Joe may very well care about getting heart attacks.
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