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  • Utterly Frustrated- How to Proceed?

    Ok, I am completely tear-my-pillows up frustrated at this point. I have GAINED 2# in 6 weeks since I last weighed myself, my measurement have gone down minisculy but I am not even sure I am measuring in the same place I did as last time except with my bicep and bust area. I have been tracking in my journal for about 2.5 weeks which you can see from the link in my signature. Before that I was tracking online and was eating around 6% carbs with calories between 1500-1700. I am 5'63/4" female BTW so while 172 does not in fact look like 172 with clothes on it as I am pretty sure I have mostly the fat that sits internally and not the grabable kind. PLEASE take a look at my journal and let me know what you think. I have been considering going up to 50-60 grams like mark suggests in his book with only <50 on IF days because clearly this hasn't really been working. I have 20# to lose and I haven't really lost anything in the 9.5 weeks I've been on this plan.
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  • #2
    You are doing a lot of exercise so it's probably muscle.
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    • #3
      You have been doing a lot of strength training, so this 2lbs could easily be attributed to water weight or muscle gain!

      You've measured your weight on two different scales, and have faulty measurements. I would personally ignore those results until you get a consistent reading. My doctor's scale, home scale, and gym scale all give me different readings, sometimes varying as much as 5lbs. Also your weight will be different depending on the time of day and your menstrual cycle.

      So... how do you FEEL? And are you seeing any changes in the mirror? Increased strength and endurance? I think these things are a better indicator of your current success with PB. If you're really set on losing fat (not weight in general) then set up a monthly appointment at a local gym to have your BF% measured by a professional.

      I skimmed through your journal, and other than being WAY to hard on yourself, I think you're definitely on the right path Hope this helps!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rphlslv View Post
        You are doing a lot of exercise so it's probably muscle.
        yep+1

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        • #5
          yep yep, dont automatically assume it's fat. What does the mirror tell you.
          "I know what my body needs and what it can handle. There's no better way to achieve my goal than what im doing now. If my regimen leads to my death, be it in six days or six months...I will die fullfiled. The outcome is irrelavent so long as i steer towards my fate. If death is to be my prize, i welcome it with open arms."

          "A pound of meat a day keeps the doctor away"

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          • #6
            I totally sympathize though, I just took some 'after' pictures, compared it to 3 weeks ago, and see hardly any difference. At best I didn't gain at weight.
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            • #7
              I completely agree that I am too hard on myself, a Type A trait I struggle to get away from daily. I guess I just thought after being on this low carb plan for over 2 months I might finally be able to be down around 160 or lower AND be leaner. As it is, I agree with you rphlslv, I really don't see too much of a difference. I suppose if I'm really straining to see something I feel like my upper body might be a bit more defined but it's not really noticeable. I know I am stronger because I have been steadily moving up in the 100 push-up program and I do feel stronger. I just don't see why my weight has to continue to remain so high. I know you shouldn't get stuck on numbers, but I mean SOME downward movement would be appreciated.

              Oh, and to answer you Tabitha, I have been struggling with my body feeling really tired and sore especially this week with a lot of brain fog which I am not sure if it is having done a ton of exercise last week or starting a 9 hour job from just a school schedule and I need to adjust. This morning during my 18 hr IF I feel great energy wise- body is still pretty fatigued, had a good yoga class though. I think I may either a) be doing too much heavy lifting too fast and should back down to 2 days a week with one sprint (swimming starting tomorrow) or b) I should try carbs around 50-60g like mark recommends unless Ifing although this is a challenge for me.
              Last edited by trigirl85; 06-05-2010, 09:40 AM.
              Edible, adj.: Good to eat, and wholesome to digest, as a worm to a toad, a toad to a snake, a snake to a pig, a pig to a man, and a man to a worm. ~Ambrose Bierce

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              • #8
                forget your weight, how do you feel. dont be a slave to the scale. Im even ok if you feel that you look good, which in turn will make you feel good. Count carbs not pounds.(if you have an urge to count)
                "Don't dream it, be it"

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                • #9
                  So I guess the issue here is I don't feel awesome, I don't think I look much different much less great, and I have been keeping my carbs way in check with absolutely no cheats whatsoever in 9.5 weeks. THAT is why I am so frustrated, the number on the scale is just the last straw on the camel's back. And I have been checked for every illness under the sun and I am not hypothyroid, I do have an autoimmune disease but it does not cause weight gain in and of itself. So I don't see any obvious roadblocks here explaining why I am not seeing the results.
                  Last edited by trigirl85; 06-05-2010, 10:36 AM.
                  Edible, adj.: Good to eat, and wholesome to digest, as a worm to a toad, a toad to a snake, a snake to a pig, a pig to a man, and a man to a worm. ~Ambrose Bierce

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                  • #10
                    I have to say, you articulate my fears exactly. Hard not to get discouraged when you feel you are doing everything "right" but don't feel you are reaping the rewards. Mind you - I am worrying in advance of beginning - you at least have gone for it!! SO, well done you!!

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                    • #11
                      Are you doing this to lose weight, or to be healthy? Whichever one you pick can really color your entire attitude.

                      Throw out the scale. It's a meaningless measure of your progress. Focus on how you feel and how your clothes are fitting, what your blood work looks like and how well you're sleeping.
                      Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                      Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                      Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                      My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                      • #12
                        I feel like I am somehow not being clear enough...I am doing this to be healthy but this was not a dramatic change in health for me. I was not a carboholic before I went on this plan and in fact was already eating only meat/veg at night for 8 months before going primal. I have been gluten free for over a year before this and organic, grass-fed, etc for around 4 years. My health problems are autoimmune and while I have seen some reduction in pain, I still have a lot of fatigue, exercise intolerance, and brain fog as I discuss in my journal. I just got the scale...I have not been weighing myself obsessively. The last time I weighed like I said above was 6 weeks ago. What I am saying is that my clothes are NOT fitting differently in 9.5 weeks, I do not look different, and I do not have a lot more energy or feel great most of the time.

                        SO, with that said, I am looking for some concrete things to try the see if I can mobilize some fat loss because yes that is part of my goals and I don't think it is contradictory to the goal of better health. I am not skinny person looking to get more ripped. I want to get to a lower body fat % to be healthier.
                        Edible, adj.: Good to eat, and wholesome to digest, as a worm to a toad, a toad to a snake, a snake to a pig, a pig to a man, and a man to a worm. ~Ambrose Bierce

                        (R)evolutionary Cuisine

                        My Journal

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                        • #13
                          Try some coconut oil. It really does boost energy levels. It's amazing.
                          "I know what my body needs and what it can handle. There's no better way to achieve my goal than what im doing now. If my regimen leads to my death, be it in six days or six months...I will die fullfiled. The outcome is irrelavent so long as i steer towards my fate. If death is to be my prize, i welcome it with open arms."

                          "A pound of meat a day keeps the doctor away"

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                          • #14
                            I would just throw out the possibility that stress and the cortisol it induces might also be a problem. I know that on days that I work my 12 hour shifts at the hospital as an RN I can feel the difference in my body when the work is stressful. I get tired and hungry and am less satisfied by my primal meals and snacks. I can be hungry again 2 hours after eating some delicious beef stew, cheese, and cooked kale that I bring from home. The relentless demands, the overly long shift with little time for rest or refreshment means I rely on bursts of stress hormones to keep me going. On my days off, I can eat the same primal breakfast of bacon and eggs and have not a twinge of hunger until 3 pm and after eating at 3 not have much appetite for dinner. I also get to sleep in a bit on those days, and mix up relaxing activities with housework and other "to do" chores. The difference is marked and stress level is the main variable.

                            I say all this because I hear the level of frustration and you mention that you are type A. If there is any way to approach the primal lifestyle that dials down the stress and pressure you are putting on yourself it might help with weight loss and energy levels as well. Focusing on how you are feeling and not so much what you are weighing, interjecting fun and relaxation as essential elements of the PB, and finding ways to calm the inner voices that induce higher stress levels might help. Insulin is not the only hormone we need to focus on, cortisol and adrenaline are the other biggies that promote holding burning sugars instead of fats for energy.

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                            • #15
                              what's the link to the journal? I cant find it. There is no signature

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