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  • McDonalds: Is it really so unhealthy? Let's look at the facts.

    McDonalds gets a bad reputation for being super unhealthy. But is it really so, or is that all in our mind?

    Let's analyze what's actually in a McDonalds Cheeseburger.

    The Bun
    The bun is, probably the worst part since it's made of wheat. HOWEVER, if you can tolerate wheat ok, then this is isn't so bad. It's no worse than using bread to make a sandwich at home.

    The Patty
    Mmmm. In America, they don't know how to look after cows properly so this meat is probably crap. But in countries like mine the patty is made from GRASS-FED, HEALTHY COWS. The patty also has salt which is good for you.

    The Cheese
    Ok the cheese isn't such a great thing, it's processed cheese, but really I don't think it's such a big deal, considering you are usually only eating 1 or 2 slices of it on your burger.

    The Pickle
    Well, I usually throw the pickle away because it's yuck. But if you like it, it's probably fine - being a vegetable it makes the meal a tiny bit more balanced.

    The Sauce
    It's tomato sauce. Not really much else to say here.


    So that's the burger. In conclusion it's really only the bun which is the issue, and even then only if you have wheat sensitivities.

    HOWEVER, the fries. We must talk about the fries. I believe the burger is the scapegoat while the fries are the true enemy. See, most people, when they buy McDonalds - they get the combo pack which comes with fries. People associate the burgers with being the culprit behind bad health - when it's really the fries, which are drenched in PUFA oils.

    According to McDonalds website they use some kind of satanic blend of canola, soybean and corn oil to cook their fries in.

    So, what's the takeaway from all this? If you eat McDonalds, just eat the burger not the fries. Infact, don't eat anything that looks like it's been deep-fried. If we could just convince McDonalds to use lard for their deep frying, the world would be a better place.
    Last edited by God; 09-09-2014, 07:02 PM.

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    Grains are poor sources of nutrients, like magnesium. Symptoms of magnesium deficiency match those of type 2 diabetes. People without explicit wheat sensitivity still suffer from eating the bun because it ruins nutrient levels.
    My opinions and some justification

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    • #3
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      • #4
        The bread will be made with veg oil and my bet would be added to the burger too.

        On the plus side most of the calories are from carbs to the veg@ns can at least say it is plant based.
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        • #5
          Everything's relative. When I watched supersize me, the big takeaway I got was that the hidden calories were all in the chips and soda, and that it was possible to be comparatively healthy just eating the burgers.

          That said, we don't eat the burgers any more. Why not eat homemade burgers with lettuce 'buns'?
          Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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          • #6
            If you just ate their beef, lettuce, tomato, salad, chicken breasts, it wouldn't be that bad at all. (not ideal, but you'd be fine.)

            Honestly, the real issue isn't the bread either. (Unless you are gluten intolerant.) It's the OIL. McDonald's used to use good old fashioned lard. They changed to 100% shit oil in order to please the idiots in the world. Not only do their fries not taste that good anymore, but they are now horrid for you.

            So anything fried (nuggets, fries, pies) is god-awful for you. Stay away.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Elliot View Post
              Grains are poor sources of nutrients, like magnesium. Symptoms of magnesium deficiency match those of type 2 diabetes. People without explicit wheat sensitivity still suffer from eating the bun because it ruins nutrient levels.
              This is such a hilarious way of thinking. Are you really that neurotic that you have to optimize every meal you have so that it has maximum nutrient density?

              NEWSFLASH: Your body runs on calories, not nutrients. It needs nutrients of course but CALORIES ARE #1 PRIORITY. There is something to be said for foods which have caloric density.

              Also, you do realize you can... EAT OTHER FOOD AS WELL? Obviously if you eat nothing but grain you will suffer deficiencies... but you eat other food as well usually, yeah? Like meat, vegetables, dairy? They have the nutrients you crave.

              As for magnesium specifically, well, NO FOOD has sufficient magnesium for my liking that's why it's the one mineral I supplement with. You'd need to eat like 10 cups of spinach to get the minimum magnesium for the day. I believe this is due to problems with lack of magnesium in the soil.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by God View Post
                NEWSFLASH: Your body runs on calories, not nutrients. It needs nutrients of course but CALORIES ARE #1 PRIORITY. There is something to be said for foods which have caloric density.
                I'm not sure of what you mean here. To survive, you need many things, including calories and magnesium. If you don't get enough calories, you die. If you don't get enough magnesium, you die. What's so special about calories? In fact, the average fat person (i.e. American) has more than enough calories on their body and insufficient magnesium.
                My opinions and some justification

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by God View Post
                  This is such a hilarious way of thinking. Are you really that neurotic that you have to optimize every meal you have so that it has maximum nutrient density?

                  NEWSFLASH: Your body runs on calories, not nutrients. It needs nutrients of course but CALORIES ARE #1 PRIORITY. There is something to be said for foods which have caloric density.
                  No, calories may be the most important thing you ingest, but they are far from the only one you need. Here's a post from free the animal about nutrient density to explain further. I think the general rule of avoiding processed foods which are deficient in vitamins and minerals is a good one.
                  Last edited by magicmerl; 09-09-2014, 08:53 PM.
                  Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                  Griff's cholesterol primer
                  5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                  Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                  TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                  bloodorchid is always right

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                    Health issues aside, why would anyone waste one thin dime on it?
                    Agree. Unless it's free their offerings need to be compared with what else the cash could buy. $5 can buy a decent pile of liver, mackerel, potato, banana, cabbage, etc.

                    Originally posted by Dirlot View Post
                    The bread will be made with veg oil
                    Yep.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                      No, calories may be the most important thing you ingest, but they are far from the only one you need.
                      Well that's pretty much what I just said? Calories first, nutrients second.

                      And I believe processed food can be good for you, it digests easier and it's often more calorie dense so you can eat more of it before getting full. The main bad thing about many processed foods is everything is contaminated with the dreaded seed oils these days. It's like there's this weird obsession with food companies putting soybean/canola oil in everything!?

                      Now, when we talk about nutrient density potatoes are an excellent and healthy source of carbs - they have good micronutrients as well. I prefer them over grains in general. HOWEVER they are very filling so it can be hard to eat enough of them. That's why I'm a fan of rice these days. I also am experimenting with eating more sugars instead of starches.

                      Also, I eat organs so I give no fucks about extracting every last bit of micronutrient from the plants I eat. Organs absolutely eclipse the amount of nutrition you can get from plant foods. Yanno the nutrients in plants are meant for the little bugs that eat the plant not for big animals like us? Though, when it comes to nature is anything really "meant" for anything? Or does it just seem that way? When herbivores eat plants they eat the little bugs on the plants and they get nutrition from the bugs as well as the plant. EVEN HERBIVORES are a little bit carnivorous! And remember they eat A LOT of plant. Like, they spend all day eating.

                      So if you really worry about not getting enough nutrients just eat organs.
                      Last edited by God; 09-09-2014, 10:00 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by God View Post
                        Well that's pretty much what I just said? Calories first, nutrients second.

                        And I believe processed food can be good for you, it digests easier and it's often more calorie dense so you can eat more of it before getting full. The main bad thing about many processed foods is everything is contaminated with the dreaded seed oils these days. It's like there's this weird obsession with food companies putting soybean/canola oil in everything!?

                        Now, when we talk about nutrient density potatoes are an excellent and healthy source of carbs - they have good micronutrients as well. I prefer them over grains in general. HOWEVER they are very filling so it can be hard to eat enough of them. That's why I'm a fan of rice these days. I also am experimenting with eating more sugars instead of starches.

                        Also, I eat organs so I give no fucks about extracting every last bit of micronutrient from the plants I eat. Organs absolutely eclipse the amount of nutrition you can get from plant foods. Yanno the nutrients in plants are meant for the little bugs that eat the plant not for big animals like us? Though, when it comes to nature is anything really "meant" for anything? Or does it just seem that way? When herbivores eat plants they eat the little bugs on the plants and they get nutrition from the bugs as well as the plant. EVEN HERBIVORES are a little bit carnivorous! And remember they eat A LOT of plant. Like, they spend all day eating.

                        So if you really worry about not getting enough nutrients just eat organs.
                        I agree with what you have there.

                        However, currently in society we don't have a problem eating enough calories. We do (as a society) have a rpoblem with eating too many calories and not getting enough of those other things.

                        Hence the 'empty calories'.
                        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                        Griff's cholesterol primer
                        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                        bloodorchid is always right

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by picklepete View Post
                          Agree. Unless it's free their offerings need to be compared with what else the cash could buy. $5 can buy a decent pile of liver, mackerel, potato, banana, cabbage, etc.
                          This. Why in God's name would I spend money at that place, when for the same price I could get a pound of carne asada and a baked potato?



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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by picklepete View Post
                            Agree. Unless it's free their offerings need to be compared with what else the cash could buy. $5 can buy a decent pile of liver, mackerel, potato, banana, cabbage, etc.
                            THAT SOUNDS VERY... APPETIZING. Mackerel is like, cat food lol. It's as bad as sardines!

                            Liver is good though I totes agree with that.

                            I'm just saying, like, if you're on the road and you encounter mcdonalds, there's no reason to be scared, the burger wont hurt you. I'm not saying base your diet on it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by God View Post
                              Well that's pretty much what I just said? Calories first, nutrients second.

                              And I believe processed food can be good for you, it digests easier and it's often more calorie dense so you can eat more of it before getting full. The main bad thing about many processed foods is everything is contaminated with the dreaded seed oils these days. It's like there's this weird obsession with food companies putting soybean/canola oil in everything!?

                              Now, when we talk about nutrient density potatoes are an excellent and healthy source of carbs - they have good micronutrients as well. I prefer them over grains in general. HOWEVER they are very filling so it can be hard to eat enough of them. That's why I'm a fan of rice these days. I also am experimenting with eating more sugars instead of starches.

                              Also, I eat organs so I give no fucks about extracting every last bit of micronutrient from the plants I eat. Organs absolutely eclipse the amount of nutrition you can get from plant foods. Yanno the nutrients in plants are meant for the little bugs that eat the plant not for big animals like us? Though, when it comes to nature is anything really "meant" for anything? Or does it just seem that way? When herbivores eat plants they eat the little bugs on the plants and they get nutrition from the bugs as well as the plant. EVEN HERBIVORES are a little bit carnivorous! And remember they eat A LOT of plant. Like, they spend all day eating.

                              So if you really worry about not getting enough nutrients just eat organs.
                              Yep. Totally agree. The other day I wanted Caesar salad dressing; random craving. Didn't feel like making it, so while I was at the expensive "natural store" (aka our local micro Whole Foods), I was perusing salad dressing labels for just ONE made with extra virgin olive oil and no seed/vegetable oils. I was even willing to shell out $6-8 bucks for it. Every single one contained soy and/or canola and 90% of them were deemed "organic"; they just contained organic soybean oil. Now, I know the flavor of these oils is neutral, which is one of the attractions for using them, but when they are used in frying they taste horrid. You can tell they are rancid immediately. I can't stand the flavor it gives restaurant french fries, they taste like total chemical crap. It's why they need so much salt and ketchup. But dry baked potatoes at home need nothing. They are perfect. Before 1984, McDonald's used lard + palm oil to cook their fries, and supposedly that's when their fries were amazing. Sadly, anti-saturated fat won and that's when semi-real and decent food became unhealthful.

                              By the way, I read that even McDonald's in the US uses grass-fed beef burgers. Apparently it's cheaper to import much of it from Australia than the grain-fed crap here.
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