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    Hey all,

    So I've been undertaking Mark's '21 Day Transformation' as a way to kick-start my way back into Primal living, having dipped inn and out of it before. I've largely been sticking to the dietary and exercise recommendations, and weighing myself each week, at the same day and time, along with taking BMI and fat measurements.

    What I've noticed is this: far from losing weight (which was part of my aim) - I have INCREASED according to the following, over the three week period:

    Weight 80 to 82 kg
    Body fat 21.1% to 22.2%
    Visceral fat 7 to 8
    BMI 23 to 25

    How is this possible?! Any ideas?

  • #2
    You ate too much

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    • #3
      What are you eating?
      My opinions and some justification

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      • #4
        Ha! Well I'm completely off the grains, sugar, refined carbs etc. Eating lots of quality meat, eggs, loads of non-starchy veg, nuts and nut butter (almond), organic butter and coconut oil / milk, little bits of full-fat dairy (unpasteurized), some bananas and berries (I was having problems with feeling sick after exercising, so fruit helps with some extra carbs), live yoghurt, black tea... that sums it up really.

        In actual fact FrenchFry, I've found that I've been eating less over the period due to feeling much more satisfied after food (as well as being quite busy and not having time!).

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        • #5
          Too many calories, paleo or not, if you eat too much you'll gain weight


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          • #6
            No nuts!
            My opinions and some justification

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BarefootCoach View Post
              Ha! Well I'm completely off the grains, sugar, refined carbs etc. Eating lots of quality meat, eggs, loads of non-starchy veg, nuts and nut butter (almond), organic butter and coconut oil / milk, little bits of full-fat dairy (unpasteurized), some bananas and berries (I was having problems with feeling sick after exercising, so fruit helps with some extra carbs), live yoghurt, black tea... that sums it up really.

              In actual fact FrenchFry, I've found that I've been eating less over the period due to feeling much more satisfied after food (as well as being quite busy and not having time!).
              mmmm, maybe some intermittent fasting or short daily eating window would help you. Try to eat most of your meals between say 5pm and 8pm every day. Work out fasted.

              And if you really want to "cut", you can severely restrict calories for a few days while keeping your work-out routine (as much as you can at least). An easy way to do so is to be on the potato hack diet for a few days. Not "primal" (but one can argue about this ...) but you should get some fat mass burnt quick.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BarefootCoach View Post

                In actual fact FrenchFry, I've found that I've been eating less over the period due to feeling much more satisfied after food (as well as being quite busy and not having time!).
                Bet you aren't. The foods you're eating now are calorie dense and easy to overeat. Unless were weighing and measuring every molecule of food before the 21 day challenge and doing so during the 21 day challenge, I'd guess you're taking in more calories than you used to

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                • #9
                  aah I see... looks like I have been confused here - I thought that becoming 'fat adapted' meant that the body begins using fat for fuel, hence it became very difficult to put on weight when eating primally, regardless of how much you ate (within reason). It seems that I still need to be counting calories, then?

                  I like FrenchFry's suggestion of IF too... though not sure how long I could sustain the potato hack diet!

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                  • #10
                    Your body will use fat and sugar for fuel. No matter what.

                    While improving the quality of the food you eat will perhaps heal your gut, better nourish you and allow your body and hormones to funtion properly, at the end of the day calories matter

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                    • #11
                      If you eat nothing but meat and low carb vegetables dressed in fat and salt you will probably loose weight without paying much attention to calories

                      You would certainly train your body how to run on fat


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                      • #12
                        That all makes sense then... thanks I guess it's a case of increasing the veggies a bit more, and minimising the most calorific stuff!

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                        • #13
                          If you eat nothing but meat and low carb vegetables dressed in fat and salt you will probably loose weight without paying much attention to calories

                          You would certainly train your body how to run on fat
                          I think that will be my new 'challenge' then! Can eggs be included in that too?

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                          • #14
                            From what you listed, I'd minimize the nuts and nut butters. While delicious, they aren't really all that nutrient dense and they're loaded with omega 6.

                            What was your diet like before the 21 day challenge?

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                            • #15
                              Well from my experience - you do lose weight pretty fast going low carb high fat, but adding back carbs just makes it come back. And berries in season are just too good to pass up on.

                              Anyways - I'd drop the almond butter.

                              Originally posted by BarefootCoach View Post
                              I think that will be my new 'challenge' then! Can eggs be included in that too?
                              Eggs are mostly protein and fat so yes.
                              What to do: Eat real food, enjoy your food, get out into the sun as often as possible, move around, sleep well and early (like before 11 p.m.), have health as your main goal.

                              You are probably going to fail if you: Restrict carbs or fat or calories, avoid fruit (because sugar derp), punish yourself with diet/exercise, have weight loss as your only goal,....

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