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    Any ladies with weird thyroid numbers?
    I hope it's ok to ask here.
    My TSH IS 1.2
    And free t4 1.1

    Doc wants me on meds... Anyone?
    Thanks


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  • #2
    I don't know why your doctor would want you on meds. Your TSH at 1.2 is considered 'ideal.' I have no idea what your T4 number means as the lab range is necessary for evaluation, but, again, the initial diagnosis depends on the TSH, and yours is perfect.

    I've been hypothyroid for about 15 years, so I have some experience with this stuff.

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    • #3
      Thank you emie.
      I have all symptoms of hypo and since the free t4 is low normal range, she thinks .25 Levo is something to try..


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      • #4
        I would require a full panel prior to any decisions. For all we know you may just need more selenium.

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        • #5
          I will look into it.
          Thank you


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          • #6
            Yeah, I know that there is 'subclinical hypothyroidism' when the labs don't yet reflect the deficiency, but just that low T4 in the absence of a full panel doesn't seem worth starting Rx hormones. Both of my endos have told me that once you begin, it's for life. When the body receives the supplemental hormones, it adjusts to them so that they are then a necessity.

            In your situation, I'd get more tests before beginning. Keep in mind that although you're symptomatic, thyroid symptoms are vague and can be due to other sources. That's why it's so difficult to get a diagnosis when the labs don't reflect the problem.

            It's also possible that your doctor is absolutely right, but a little more testing wouldn't hurt. The minimum TSH level for hypo is 3.0, but most doctors will treat someone who has a TSH as low as 2.0 AND is symptomatic. Lower than 2.0 I've never known a doctor to prescribe.

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            • #7
              For an optimal thyroid take in proper amounts of selenium and iodine. It is different for everyone in the amounts but Iodine: Why You Need It, By: Dr. David Brownstein might help. Also proper intake of carbs around 150 daily will help as well. Stay away from gluten, the proteins that make up gluten can interfere with thyroid hormones in some people.
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              • #8
                ^Be careful with iodine....or any other micronutrient. Quite easy to overdose if you are not sure that you are deficient to start with. I would recommend extensive testing to assure a deficiency before ever considering a high dose iodine program. There are plenty of people dismissing obvious signs of toxic loads as "detox" in these cases.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                  ^Be careful with iodine....or any other micronutrient. Quite easy to overdose if you are not sure that you are deficient to start with. I would recommend extensive testing to assure a deficiency before ever considering a high dose iodine program. There are plenty of people dismissing obvious signs of toxic loads as "detox" in these cases.
                  Given that the RDA is 150micrograms, which is ridiculously low. The Japanese consume more than 50 times that amount daily on average without ill effect. I personally take about 20 times that daily (3ml).

                  Neckhammer is right to be cautious of megadoses, but we're talking about taking 100 times or more to get to that level.
                  Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                  Griff's cholesterol primer
                  5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                  Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                  TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                  bloodorchid is always right

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                  • #10
                    If you decide to take thyroid replacement hormone, take Armour Thyroid. It's natural; desiccated pig thyroid and has both T3 & T4. Synthroid is synthetic and only T4. I felt much better once I switched.

                    Mercury toxicity also causes thyroid problems. Get rid of the mercury to heal your thyroid.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks guys


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                      • #12
                        Given that your TSH is normal, she should run a panel of antibodies looking for autoimmune disease. It'd be unusual though for the TSH to be normal with high antibodies however. There could also be a problem converting T3 to T4 (iodine deficiency). You could try sprinkling for kelp granules on your eggs like I do, for instance, or eating some more sea vegetables to correct any kind of iodine deficiency (slow and sure). I like kelp on my eggs every morning because eggs are high in selenium and have doses of iodine in addition to what I add to it from the kelp.

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                        • #13
                          First of all, the conversion in the body is from T4 to T3, and iodine deficiency as a problem for thyroid has not been an issue in this country in this century because so many common foods are iodized. It's typically ONLY a third world problem. Conversion problems are an issue with advanced hypothyroidism and would not be an issue for a person who is only slightly hypo.

                          Moreover, anyone with thyroid issues is courting trouble to supplement with iodine because Hashimoto's is the most common cause of hypothyroid in this country (7 of 10 people), and iodine makes it much worse! And the antibody test is notoriously false negative, so anyone who is hypothyroid can't simply assume he/she doesn't have Hashi's based on labs.

                          My own Hashi's was diagnosed when I had a biopsy on a thyroid nodule. My endo had been regularly testing for antibodies for 5 years, but, as he explained, there were never sufficient antibodies to confirm a diagnosis that he strongly suspected. I've read that the problem is that the immune system attacks the thyroid intermittently, and unless an attack is taking place at the moment the blood is drawn, there will not be sufficient antibodies present for diagnosis--hence the false negatives.

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                          • #14
                            My gosh,
                            I have all the symptoms.
                            Hr 45-55
                            Tired
                            Cold
                            Gained weight ...


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                            • #15
                              When they took iodine out of bread, and warned people to go easy on salt, iodine deficiency became a real concern, especially for those living in the "Goiter Belt" around the Great Lakes. And as ocean fish soared in price, and pollution soared in coastal areas, more people joined the ranks of the deficient.
                              By the time nodules develop, deficiencies are well advanced.

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