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  • Has caffeine stalled anybody's weight loss? Frustrated in Holland : /

    Hi all, I was just wanting to know from people's personal experience, as I'm a newbie round here, if caffeine has interfered with anyone's weight - loss goals? Just doin a search online, it seems for some it's no problem and may even be beneficial in that regard, but for others it stalls them. So it appears the jury's out?

    I have just completed my 1st Whole30 and not lost a single pound, though I feel much better and am at the reintro stage. However, I've had issues with lack of sleep/insomnia for many months now and I know I'm drinking too much coffee ( with coconut milk ) to compensate. So it becomes a vicious circle, tired and wired is the new norm! : ( Was it the lack of sleep or the excess coffee consumption to blame? Who knows but my plan is to go de-caf next week and monitor things closely.

    Or is it my new-found love of coconut that's gotten out of hand and is responsible? Munching on fresh coconut meat or blocks of creamed coconut ( 100% coconut only ) as snacks ( gotta compensate for the lack of dairy somehow! ). Maybe too much of a good thing backfires on you eventually.......

    Anyways, I've researched why some people don't lose weight doin Paleo, ( I realise that topic has been done to death on here and elsewhere ) and I'm formulating a plan before I embark on the 21 day challenge next, but I would really appreciate people's opinions on the coffee thing as, I also enjoy my cuppa before a workout, tho maybe the effect is more psychological/placebo and it's just a case of breaking the habit. Any input would be great : )

    Thankyou in advance. P.S I just wanna lose 7lbs and get some muscle definition ( aside from the myriad of health benefits of eating this way ). I'm female, 5ft 5ins and 70kg ( 154lbs ) Cheers

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    Seems like your lack of sleep woukd be a MUCH bigger issue, although that can be caused by caffeine...when i quit caffeine, i tend to lose weight very quickly and feel less bloated-not sure if thats a sensitivity to coffee itself or just fixes my sleep, however.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kazmo View Post
      Hi all, I was just wanting to know from people's personal experience, as I'm a newbie round here, if caffeine has interfered with anyone's weight - loss goals? Just doin a search online, it seems for some it's no problem and may even be beneficial in that regard, but for others it stalls them. So it appears the jury's out?

      I have just completed my 1st Whole30 and not lost a single pound, though I feel much better and am at the reintro stage. However, I've had issues with lack of sleep/insomnia for many months now and I know I'm drinking too much coffee ( with coconut milk ) to compensate. So it becomes a vicious circle, tired and wired is the new norm! : ( Was it the lack of sleep or the excess coffee consumption to blame? Who knows but my plan is to go de-caf next week and monitor things closely.

      Or is it my new-found love of coconut that's gotten out of hand and is responsible? Munching on fresh coconut meat or blocks of creamed coconut ( 100% coconut only ) as snacks ( gotta compensate for the lack of dairy somehow! ). Maybe too much of a good thing backfires on you eventually.......

      Anyways, I've researched why some people don't lose weight doin Paleo, ( I realise that topic has been done to death on here and elsewhere ) and I'm formulating a plan before I embark on the 21 day challenge next, but I would really appreciate people's opinions on the coffee thing as, I also enjoy my cuppa before a workout, tho maybe the effect is more psychological/placebo and it's just a case of breaking the habit. Any input would be great : )

      Thankyou in advance. P.S I just wanna lose 7lbs and get some muscle definition ( aside from the myriad of health benefits of eating this way ). I'm female, 5ft 5ins and 70kg ( 154lbs ) Cheers
      I tend to notice that whenever I'm consuming caffeine, my appetite is more... ravenous and I can't seem to be satisfied with the amount of food I'd normally take in. It just required a lot more self-discipline to stick to "reasonable" amounts
      For weight- I was able to lose both with and without caffeine in my diet.

      There's one simple thing you can do instead of asking- quit drinking caffeinated beverages for, say, 30 days, and see how you feel, what's the deal with sleep and weight. It will do no harm at all

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      • #4
        Coffee hasn't interfered with my weight loss, but I rarely drink more than two cups a day.

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        • #5
          Hi there, thanks everyone for your responses. Just wanted other people's take on the whole coffee thing but I reckon it's possibly a lack of sleep, exacerbated by too much coffee in the afternoon, that's putting a spanner in the works. I didn't know if I was consuming too much coconut either but my plan for next week is; de-caf coffee, quit nuts ( I'm greedy on the Nut Front! ) and stop buying in the creamed coconut blocks. I will reassess after 1 wk.
          Maybe some people can get away with eating more fat then others but I'll try and tackle the sleep thing primarily. Here's hoping, otherwise it gets a bit disheartening : /

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kazmo View Post
            Or is it my new-found love of coconut that's gotten out of hand and is responsible? Munching on fresh coconut meat or blocks of creamed coconut ( 100% coconut only ) as snacks
            Any food is a powerful diurnal signal, so snacking can disrupt sleep patterns with or without the caffeine. I would try planning balanced regular mealtimes (3/day maximum).

            My biggest sleep aid is leisure activity--a bicycle commute or night walk will guarantee a solid night for me.
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            • #7
              Take your time and eliminate the potential factors you've already identified.

              -Make sure you are not eating too many snacks and not over-eating in general (a lot of a little is still a lot). Even just a few days of calorie tracking can help with this.
              -Cut down on caffeine consumption or eliminate it entirely. Sounds like you're already planning on doing that.
              -Take steps towards a solid sleep schedule and give everything time. Giving up caffeine is not likely to resolve everything within one week, it may take longer, but it could still help.
              -Don't give up!
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              • #8
                Personally, I don't think it's the caffeine. I think it's the crappy sleep. I really want to fix it but I don't know how... *rubs face* So tired...
                Out of context quote for the day:

                Clearly Gorbag is so awesome he should be cloned, reproducing in the normal manner would only dilute his awesomeness. - Urban Forager

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by codered5 View Post
                  Seems like your lack of sleep woukd be a MUCH bigger issue, although that can be caused by caffeine...when i quit caffeine, i tend to lose weight very quickly and feel less bloated-not sure if thats a sensitivity to coffee itself or just fixes my sleep, however.
                  I think your sleep is a huge issue. I believe sleep is one of the most important aspects of good health. If there is any possibility that your caffeine intake is causing your insomnia, which is very possible, I would tackle that aspect quickly.
                  "If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane

                  People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.

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                  • #10
                    Hi thanks guys for your input I will keep you posted. I'm also on the hunt for an online tracker that is user - friendly ( not bloody Fitday where you need a spare 2 hrs to input your food for the day!! ) as I reckon an accurate breakdown of my macros over a few days ( obv inc cals cos they do count ultimately, right? ), would prove rather enlightening. It's better than always guestimating, especially with me not losing........
                    I do have a sneaky suspicion I may have gone OTT with the fat. I eat it pretty generously ( read, with wanton abandon, lol ) and may have done the newbie thing of falling fowl of all the " Eat more fat to replace the carbs ", " Fat is good and is a source of energy " etc etc messages that prevail in all the books, blogs etc. But how much is too much? The various authors ( not just the Paleo people ) don't really mention a limit, they just tell you to eat it cos it won't make us fat blah, blah. I always thought, as long as the carbs were low, you won't get fat off fat. But I've read some places that you can, indeed, put weight on ( or stall ) with lots of fat. Hmmm, it's all a big self - experiment I guess. Sleep/caffeine issue 1st I think.

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                    • #11
                      Creamed coconut is extremely calorically dense (655kcals/100g). Pure fat is 900cal/100g. I wouldn't snack on it if I were you.
                      Love, peace, and bacon grease.

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                      • #12
                        Bloody hell, really??!! I had no idea Ignorance is not always bliss, it seems.....I think I was under the false impression ( shamefully naive of me, I know ), that because it's natural, also high in fat and fibre ( therefore very satieting ) then it's OK to go ad lib on coconut. I only cook with coconut oil, eat fresh coconut, graze on creamed coconut and add the milk ( 18% fat ) to my hot drinks. Here's me thinking it's my main fuel source as I work out 3 - 4 days/wk and that fat, in leau of carbs, won't make me fat! I've got a lot to learn! Oh bollocks.........: / I have actually read the books, btw, but I still maintain they generally don't tell you to limit fats if weight loss is one of your goals, so off I go on a fat-tastic expedition....( when I say " books " I inc Atkins, Gary Taubes etc, not just the Paleo - sphere ). But 1st, back to the coffee/sleep challenge! Thankyou for that enlightening bombshell tho!

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                        • #13
                          caffiene and coffee tend to have a diurectic affect (makes you shed water and pee more) so I general it would make sense for you to hold less water weight.

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                          • #14
                            Hi Gains, yes and that's def not a good thing is it? Changing over to de-caf today, reg bedtimes ( before 2230 ) with a relaxation CD thrown in, and also lowering of the coconut consumption ( eradicating nuts too as I could eat tonnes! ) and therefore decreasing fat intake as a result, this is the plan for this week. Then assess where we are. Also monitor intake using online tracker, over the course of a few days. I think the one on Atkins site is quicker to use than Fitday so I will crack on with that.
                            Don't wanna go too low fat tho as you're meant to feel sh!t if you have lower carbs plus low fat. I guess it's about finding the ratios that work for me. Also, I realise Paleo - type diets aren't necessarily low carb but mine is as, if I'm not eating grains, plus I'm not a huge fan of fruit, aside from berries when they're in season, and no dairy, I'm naturally on the lower carb end of things by default. I'm not even bothered about starchy veg like sweet potatoes. I have a natural liking for low carb veggies, so that's useful. I have a high protein breakfast with veg and I can go do my kick-arse workout with plenty of energy. It's also a bonus that I am an anomoly of the female race, in that I don't possess a sweet tooth so no choc cravings here! Therefore, by and large, if I crack the sleep thing, I shouldn't really struggle to reach my health goals. That's the theory

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gains View Post
                              caffiene and coffee tend to have a diurectic affect (makes you shed water and pee more) so I general it would make sense for you to hold less water weight.
                              read this first: PLOS ONE: No Evidence of Dehydration with Moderate Daily Coffee Intake: A Counterbalanced Cross-Over Study in a Free-Living Population

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